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^ bonner is wack..................... blair provides more than bonner does..................... bonner will never have 2 30/20 games .......................
Bonner helps win regular season games. In the recently concluded playoffs, he was solid in the first round and the WCF.
If he was the player Spurs fans expect, his salary would be double what it is. As it stands, it's less than the league average.
Spurs fans have it good if they think his contract is some kind of albatross, or that he isn't paid appropriately for his value.
^ bonner is wack..................... blair provides more than bonner does..................... bonner will never have 2 30/20 games .......................
Last edited by playblair; 07-20-2013 at 05:44 PM.
If by helping win regular season games, you mean sparing some starters from logging extra minutes. Then yes, he helps win games in the same way CoJo, Mills and De Colo helped to relieve Tony Parker from logging extended minutes, thus keeping him fresh for the 4th quarter push.
But his 1.6 FG's and 2 RPG contributions could have been covered by any one player on the roster.
Honestly though, he does bring a bit more value than just the number of FGs or rebounds considering that when he's on the floor, he draws the big guarding him out of the lane - which opens up shots for others. I'm not saying that he is irreplaceable, but you have to admit that he brings more to the table than the stats that you used.
Now, I'll duck out before all of the Bonner haters show up with their torches and pitchforks.
I was responding to MB's assertation that Bonner helps win games. Sure, what you say is true but he averages less than 14 minutes per game and that number is skewed by the resting of key starters during various games of the regular season. He's also rarely, if ever is used in late and close game situations and when the Spurs need a three late, Bonner is riding the pine. His value comes in the form of relief of others more so than anything else.Honestly though, he does bring a bit more value than just the number of FGs or rebounds considering that when he's on the floor, he draws the big guarding him out of the lane - which opens up shots for others. I'm not saying that he is irreplaceable, but you have to admit that he brings more to the table than the stats that you used.
Now, I'll duck out before all of the Bonner haters show up with their torches and pitchforks.
Last edited by Hoops Czar; 07-20-2013 at 05:32 PM.
Blair ain't sign to another team yet? *sigh*
I have a feeling you want Richards to replace Bonner.
I actually agree with this comment. The main reason why Spurs fans pick on Matt Bonner's contract is because they refuse to point the finger at their hometown hero Manu Ginobili. Manu is the one that is big time overpaid . He's past his prime and the FO rewarded his pathetic performance in the NBA finals by offering him that $14M 2 year deal. De Colo sucks. He's a scrub, he es about his minutes, he is y, and he is just a waste of roster space.
good find.
At this point in the game, who has that money? Do many teams? I feel most of the big money has been spent. is S&T the best option?
Naïve. Instead of a 4 camped near the paint so his defender can easily help on penetration or TD posting up the defender's focus is outside.
Watch a game sometime. And tell me which stat covers that impact.
Bonner wasn't the plus-minus king for nothing.
Blair getting anything worthwhile.
Blair's never even had one.
I wonder if Blair plays overseas.
What are you talking about? for the past four seasons he's been a well above average player. Why focus on last season when he was replaced by a point forward and player who was 4 inches taller with a similar skill set.His numbers are good. The Spurs are an elite team who needed an infusion of young talent, he was the guy they looked to. He started in place in Dyess. When the postseason rolled around Dyess was healthy and we were playing a front line consisting of a 6'10 and 7'1 talented front line. He couldn't check an red hot physical ZBo. Its not a knock on his lack of talent it was a bad matchup considering he is 3-4 inches shorter than him.
Diaw the following season had a unique skill set that pushed Blair to the bench. Diaw was capable of defending centers, PFs and switchng/hedging onto 1-3 in P&Rs. He can hit 3's at a high rate, is a fantastic passer and can attack the rim off the dribble. Diaw paired with Duncan and the rest of the Spurs starting line up made sense. He can stretch the floor and pass Blair could do only one of those two well.
Why compare Bonner and Blair? Its irrelevant. Bonner can defend the post and hit 3's. Blair can board and scores well in the p&r. He is also a fantastic passer. They both had positive contributions on a team that made the finals.
Splitter finally got to start in December and played well enough to keep the job. Replacing Blair for the reasons I mentioned above. Blair didn't get benched because he stunk it was because Splitter and Diaw offered better alternatives in our system. There is no shame in that. He is certainly worth $3 million and is now being looked at with the mini midlevel exception by several teams.
Blair could cerainly be a backup for the Wizards. He put up great numbers on a pair of 60 win teams. He can certainly do it for a team that is likely to make the playoffs as an 8th seed.
Last edited by cd021; 07-21-2013 at 08:58 AM.
This.
I don't understand where all the hate towards Blair is coming from. I don't know how some Spurs fans wish him failure (lol, they on me for being ungrateful towards Manu - hypocrisy). Seriously, it's not DeJuan Blair's fault that God didn't gift him with 2 or 3 more inches of height.
Last edited by TheGreatYacht; 07-21-2013 at 12:41 PM.
props on this post...................
Good post. I think using the word "great" for his numbers is a bit of an overstatement but he played well. Blair's downfall has always been his defense, not much he can do about that just undersized. Blair is a 20 mpg energy type player who comes in mixes things up. Nothing wrong with this its just who he is. Never going to be able to play regular type minutes in my opinion due to knees. Always will be one of my favorite players.
Thanks. Good is better, I stand corrected. In terms of where he was picked in the draft, he was an absolute steal. His defense is problematic but every player has his flaws and limitations that's his. 20mpg is a good number he can certainly have a nice career as a bench player.
The thing about Blair is simple.
We expected more from him.
Even with all his flaws, he came to the NBA as a rebounding beast and with the years, we were expecting a jump-shot and improvement on the defensive area. It did not happen and that's why most ST fans are so frustrated.
Even though his tweets are pretty annoying, he handled his bench situation like a PRO, in a very mature way. Way different than a gangsta loved here in ST.
I don't understand why so many people hate him so much.
I wish nothing but the best for him.
Blair faces a similar problem to Nate Robinson in that they both are bad defenders by default just because of their short height. If Dejuan Blair was 6' 10" and Nate Robinson was 6'2", then they would probably be star players worth about $6-$8M a year, minimum.
Same here, I wish him the best, except of course when he plays against the Spurs!
Spurs fans also do this with Neal and Bonner and it annoys the outta me. They are role players who produce within their roles and get paid accordingly (plus Neal has outperformed his deal 10 fold in my opinion)
Exactly right.
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