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    So basically, if you see someone you want killed, just time your route and hit the person as he crosses the street so long as you drive the car straight and consistent in speed. Just say it was an accident and cops can't disprove that.

    ing Florida.

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    Only in Florida...

    Hate someone? Ask them to move to Florida with you.

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    I'm pretty sure I Stallworth'd a 2 weekend's ago but I didn't hear anything in the news the next day. I was driving through Liberty City, though.

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    James Holmes wouldn't have faced any charges either if it happened in Florida. He just brought out a gun and started shooting around, and it was the fault of other people to sit and stand within the ballistics of his bullets, and to get wounded and killed somehow. Same goes for the Sandy Hook gunner as well, he could've said that he was just doing his shooting practice that he did everyday when he happened to find some students & teachers appearing in front his gun. Those guys would face no further charge but something like "illegal gun possession", under the floridan law

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    How the Repugs up a state when they gain control

    Florida, the Cruelest State in the Union



    In case you’ve been in a cave or on Mars, here’s the update: In response to the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the murder of Trayvon Martin, The Daily Show host John Oliver dubbed Florida “the worst state,” citing the state’s broken laws. As a Floridian for eight years, I say Oliver couldn’t be more right. Much attention has been paid to the state’s asinine Stand Your Ground law, which Oliver described as cut and pasted from 1880s Tombstone. That is just the start of it, however. Below is a small
    snippet of some of the backwards laws or policies that have been passed, largely under uber-Conservative Governor Rick Scott.


    Almost immediately upon taking office, Governor Scott passed a law requiring recipients of welfare benefits to pass a drug test. A federal court overturned the law, noting that the state had not proven that those receiving Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) were any more likely to use drugs than the general population. In fact, before the courts shut down this large-scale gathering of Floridian’s urine, only 108 people had negative tests. This was only 2.6% of the persons who were tested. The state had to pay more than $100,000 to persons who passed the pee tests. Clearly the program was not cost-effective.


    Equally problematic is the fact that the law targeted the poor, not the many corporations like Wal-Mart or Kel Tec CNC, which manufactures the gun used to kill Trayvon Martin. Kel Tec CNC receives millions in tax incentives to locate in the state. This corporate welfare is widespread in Florida, a state that in 2012 had to cut $1.8 million for school safety initiatives and $5.7 million for mental health programs, a state that has the highest long-term unemployment and foreclosure rates in the nation.


    Another Rick Scott loser is the law that has come to be known as “Docs v. Glocks.” This gem prohibits doctors from asking their patients about guns in their homes. While clearly it is essential that gun owners store their weapons safely, the NRA-backed legislation would make asking this standard risk-assessment question a misdemeanor, subject to a $10,000 fine and even potentially the loss of medical licensure. A U.S. District Court ruled that the law was an uncons utional restriction on doctor’s right to free speech.


    In both cases, Governor Scott vowed to fight the court decisions, at taxpayer expense, of course. By August 2012, the governor reportedly had spent more than $880,000 to fight for Docs v. Glocks. He reportedly spent more than $190,000 to fight for the drug testing program. In December 2012, the Miami New Times reported that Scott had spent more than $1 million on lawsuits related to his controversial laws.


    And, while Governor Scott was a Tea Party darling for his repeated pronouncements about “limited government,” it is clear that these two laws are anything but that. Instead, Scott seems to feel that it is all fine and dandy if the government gets into our bodily fluids or our medical consultations.


    The list of Governor Scott-isms could go on and on. Suffice it to say that John Oliver has it right: “Just because you’re shaped like some combination of a gun and a doesn’t mean you have to act that way.” Indeed.

    http://www.alternet.org/print/tea-pa...st-state-union

    Scott ran a criminal corporation in Georgia before carpet bagging down to Florida.







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    Meanwhile, Dirty Repug Tricks to screw union employees in Repug Michigan

    Detroit bankruptcy on hold, Snyder admin. smacked down by judge for "cheating good people who work"

    Yesterday afternoon, Detroit Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr, with the blessing of Governor Rick Snyder, filed bankruptcy paperwork for the city at 4:06 p.m. An emergency hearing by attorneys representing city pensioners was scheduled for 4:00 p.m. in the court room of Ingham County Judge Rosemarie Aquilina. The attorneys were asked by the legal team for Governor Snyder and Kevyn Orr for a five-minute delay on the 4:00 p.m. meeting. In that time, the bankruptcy paperwork was filed, making the emergency hearing moot.

    The State lawyers literally tricked the legal team representing people receiving pensions from the City of Detroit
    so that they could file their bankruptcy paperwork.

    An attorney for the pension funds who was seeking a temporary restraining order in Ingham County to block the historic bankruptcy filing said he felt blindsided because he agreed to delay an emergency hearing by five minutes at the request of attorneys for Snyder.

    During those five minutes, he said, attorneys filed the bankruptcy pe ion in Detroit, which generally results in a stay in all other pending lawsuits involving the city. Ingham County Judge Rosemarie Aquilina later issued a temporary restraining order preventing further actions to cut pension benefits, but said she would have issued one to stop the bankruptcy filing altogether, if given the chance.

    The judge said the bankruptcy filing was made at 4:06 p.m., five minutes before her emergency hearing began.


    A furious Ronald King, a lawyer representing Detroit’s General Retirement System and the Detroit Police and Fire Retirement System, said he agreed to the five-minute delay that he now believes was not requested in good faith.

    The basis for the emergency hearing was a pending lawsuit claiming that the bankruptcy is illegal because public employee pensions are protected by the state cons ution.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...k?detail=email


    So will the Detroit's creditors (1% capitalists) get more money than "guaranteed" pension claimants?



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    @ you Florida hating sheep. Those kinds of calls get made every day in every state usually on the same grounds...drinking? You are ed...street racing?...you are ed. Just a plain old accident? No charges.

    That's why they call them accidents.

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    running a red light, or a stop sign, isn't a accident. It's a violation, and it's reckless vehicular manslaughter

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    I'm sure they can all still be sued.

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    running a red light, or a stop sign, isn't a accident. It's a violation, and it's reckless vehicular manslaughter
    Without other contributing factors (drugs, alcohol, racing, etc.) It's treated as a traffic violation. Mistakes happen. Accidents happen. They don't file criminal charges. Big civil suits? Sure, but not criminal.

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    @ you Florida hating sheep. Those kinds of calls get made every day in every state usually on the same grounds...drinking? You are ed...street racing?...you are ed. Just a plain old accident? No charges.

    That's why they call them accidents.
    California you get charged criminally if something like this happens.

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    California you get charged criminally if something like this happens.
    You get charged criminally for running a red light?

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    If you hit someone and they get killed

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    You get charged criminally for running a red light?
    You always get charged with a crime for running a red light. The difference is a) a class c misdemeanor for a traffic violation vs. b) a class b felony for manslaughter.

    Like you said, if factors that contribute to the killing are present (drugs, alcohol, etc...) and we can confidently say that the violation was reckless, I don't think anyone has a problem with criminal charges. If, however, we're confident that the death resulted from a driver's negligence, then the required mental state for manslaughter (recklessness) isn't present, and no charges should be filed.

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    Well if you are rich and live in california you can get only 2 days in jail if you run a red light and kill someone... smh:

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...210632951.html

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    Well if you are rich and live in california you can get only 2 days in jail if you run a red light and kill someone... smh:

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...210632951.html
    Life is extremely cheap is American Civilization.

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    "This is a caring, loving woman who didn’t see something in time. The young woman is devastated,”

    not as devastated as her victims, and she's not held accountable. ing lawyers, ing judges, ing lawyering.

    but in FL, if you're black and fire a gun at nobody when threatened by a man, you get 20 years.




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    "This is a caring, loving woman who didn’t see something in time. The young woman is devastated,”

    not as devastated as her victims, and she's not held accountable. ing lawyers, ing judges, ing lawyering.

    but in FL, if you're black and fire a gun at nobody when threatened by a man, you get 20 years.



    Boutons, she went out to the garage to her car.

    At that point she had two choices

    1) leave in the car
    2) get the gun and go back inside and confront the guy and shoot at him.

    2) was not a good choice.

    We can argue the sentencing but not the guilt.

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    Boutons, she went out to the garage to her car.

    At that point she had two choices

    1) leave in the car
    2) get the gun and go back inside and confront the guy and shoot at him.

    2) was not a good choice.

    We can argue the sentencing but not the guilt.
    You obviously havent followed the details. Her own husband said she couldnt leave through the garage. Either way, 20 years is excessive for a woman in fear of an abusive husband.

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    Boutons, she went out to the garage to her car.

    At that point she had two choices

    1) leave in the car
    2) get the gun and go back inside and confront the guy and shoot at him.

    2) was not a good choice.

    We can argue the sentencing but not the guilt.
    but vigilante murderer GZ can get out of his car and chase and shoot TM and you're OK with it.

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    Boutons, she went out to the garage to her car.

    At that point she had two choices

    1) leave in the car
    2) get the gun and go back inside and confront the guy and shoot at him.

    2) was not a good choice.

    We can argue the sentencing but not the guilt.
    she was in HER CASTLE, she has the right to defend herself, in ing Repug FL, because she BELIEVED herself to be in mortal danger.

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    she was in HER CASTLE, she has the right to defend herself, in ing Repug FL, because she BELIEVED herself to be in mortal danger.


    You really ought to get your information from places other than thinkprogress and alternet.

    She went out to her car, got her gun, came back inside (instead of leaving safely...her life was not in danger since he didn't follow her to the garage) and shot at him.

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    she was in HER CASTLE, she has the right to defend herself, in ing Repug FL, because she BELIEVED herself to be in mortal danger.
    She left her castle then returned with a gun but you never let facts get in your way.

    So the liberal agenda is now criminalize car accidents and legalize all drugs. Damn you liberals have gone off your rockers since the mexican shot the black guy.

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