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Except she did flee...facts.
So her garage is not part of her "castle"? Would it have been OK with you, if she had the gun in furniture in the living room with the guy?
You really ought to get your information from places other than thinkprogress and alternet.
She went out to her car, got her gun, came back inside (instead of leaving safely...her life was not in danger since he didn't follow her to the garage) and shot at him.
"I believe when he threatened to kill me, that's what he was absolutely going to do," she said. "That's what he intended to do. Had I not discharged my weapon at that point, I would not be here."
Under FL law, she has NO OBLIGATION to flee, esp not in her own damn house.
Except she did flee...facts.
crazy how all the zimmerman supporters were all about the facts of that case, yet they can't get their facts straight when it comes to marissa alexander, sad.
In describing his abuse of another woman he said, “She just wouldn’t shut up.” So he hit her in the mouth. Asked about another woman he had a relationship with, Gray said, “She got hit in the mouth, same thing.”
As for the day of the shooting incident, he says when he saw the texts on Alexander’s phone he pushed his way into the bathroom to confront her. He said in the deposition: “I was mad, you know. I said, what the f—- is this, and you know, I told her that ... if I can’t have you nobody going to have you … She ain’t .”
Gray said that when she tried to leave the bathroom, “I met her where the sink was, and she wanted to get by me and I wouldn’t let her by and I was backing up slow but I was using my body to pretty much contain her in that one area where I want her to be at. [S]he got the bathroom door closed and she locked it, so I were beating on it. [I] was there waiting for her to come out of the bathroom.”
“I was in a rage. I was in a rage, so I was saying a lot of things.” He said, “I beat on the door hard enough where it could have been broken open. [P]robably has some dents.” And: “I was mad, you know … I called her a and a .”
“She was trying to get by and I was sitting there trying to make her talk to me. [T]he more she didn’t want to talk about it, the more I was not letting her by.” After she got out of the bathroom, “I was telling her, she ain’t going nowhere, she going to sit right here. [S]he was trying to get by … and I was telling her she not going nowhere.”
He was asked, “Did you ever tell her you knew people that would do your dirt?” Gray said, “Yeah. [I] ain’t going to lie. I been in the streets … I know a lot of people …” Asked if the purpose of “saying something like that was to let her know if she didn’t do what you wanted her to do that you could have hurt her or something?,” he answered, “That’s correct.”
He described her going to the garage, “but I knew that she couldn’t leave out the garage because the garage door was locked …” He reiterated, “I knew she couldn’t get out of the garage.”
“She came back through the doors and she had a gun [from her car]. And she said, ‘You need to leave.’ I told her, I ain’t leaving until you talk to me … and I started walking towards her and she shot in the air.”
Remember, Corey claims that Alexander was not scared at this point. Really. She also claims that Rico Gray lied in this deposition to protect Alexander. Because misogynist monsters always implicate themselves in crimes to protect women.
It’s amazing that Rico Gray can admit in excruciating detail in a deposition to violent attacks on multiple women and be a free man, but when one of those women tries to defend herself, that’s just a bridge too far for Angela Corey.
Goin out to her car and getting a gun is fleeing?
Yep, she was no longer in immediate danger not that she ever was. This isn't a stand your ground case just like the Zimmerman case wasn't.
What's to argue?...
3 year deal or face a 20yr mandatory sentence...that should've been a no brainer.Corey reiterated that no shot was fired into the air, “and that if someone’s going to issue a press release they should at least get the facts straight.”
“We tried so hard to work this case out and give Marissa Alexander some benefit for the mitigation she claimed.”
She says Alexander was first offered three years.
Corey says the state attorney “has the discretion to deviate downwards” on cases that involve ten years, twenty years, or life in prison.
“In this particular case, after meeting with Rico Gray senior and his two sons and also meeting with Marissa Alexander, we were convinced that a three year minimum mandatory sentence would serve justice under these cir stances.
Alexander turned down the three-year offer.She was already serving jail time and did not want to serve more.
On a bond issued by the court judge, Alexander was ordered to have no contact with Rico Gray and his two sons. Three months later, she went over to where Rico Gray was living, got into an argument with him, hit him and gave him a black eye, Corey says. She then left the scene.
“She then lied to the police on the phone saying she had an alibi.”
When Alexander met with police, she admitted she went over to Gray’s residence but said that he had hit her.
Upon examination of both Gray and Alexander, evidence showed that “there were no injuries on her, but Rico had a black eye.”
I'm no fan of Angela Corey or mandatory sentencing guidelines.
"Yep, she was no longer in immediate danger"
her kids were still in the house, all she had to doe was "believe" herself and/or her kids to be mortal danger, she didn't know what the verbally threatening guy would do next, and she could use mortal force in self-defense.
She should have just shot him dead then tbqh.
She shot in the direction of her husband AND kids, the kids were put in mortal danger because of her.
yeah, obviously she was shooting at her kids. People who broil their kids to death in in hot cars don't get 20 years, or a 3 year plea.
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Seen from that perspective, Alexander didn’t suffer from the color of her skin (though, again, that may well have been a factor for the jury). Rather, her “mistake” was in the fact that she left an eyewitness to testify against her. That gave the prosecution grist for challenging her claim to self-defense—and once she was convicted, it wouldn’t do her any good that she merely fired off a “warning shot.”
Meanwhile, if Zimmerman had shot at Trayvon Martin and missed—deliberately or not—he could be in jail right now, serving 20 years.
Florida’s gun possession laws—more permissive than most—only serve to make the situation more explosive. The state allows for carrying your gun to work, stowing it inside your car, and taking it on public transportation. There’s no requirement for firearm registration, and gun owners are explicitly protected against discrimination. It’s like the government has set up a game of high-stakes poker, and then invited everyone to play.
Worse, the prosecution can use a rule like 10-20-Life to go all in on every hand. Even if a defendant thinks she’s innocent—or thinks she’s got a chance to walk on grounds of self-defense—she’ll be tempted to toss her hand and plead down to a lesser charge. The government offered Marissa Alexander a chance to go to jail for three years instead of 20, but she refused to fold. She thought she might escape conviction altogether, like Zimmerman. Instead, she busted out. The jury deliberated for 12 minutes, just one-eightieth the time it took their counterparts last week. Alexander was found guilty of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. She’s due out in 2032.
This dangerous mix of laws is not unique to Florida. The combination of a robust right to self-defense and harsh penalties for violence done with firearms has been a focus of the National Rifle Association (though the gun rights group may now be shifting its priorities). The government should leave good, law-abiding gunmen to themselves, says the NRA, and throw the book at thugs and ruffians who abuse the law. That approach to justice has some horrid outcomes. It leaves defendants unusually exposed to racial bias, and can sometimes make an act of murder seem like the safest bet.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ur_ground.html
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Is this guy always like this?
Well if you want to argue against mandatory sentences then you would probably be hard pressed to find anyone on here who disagrees. Instead you want to claim racism and about gun control.
No, he's usually much less rational.
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