"Boy...I feel like Kawhi Leonard"

[chrhawk]

Wale is a lousy rapper and I remember him saying the Spurs would lose to the Jazz before the 2012 playoffs.

[cd021]

Now I'm a racist too? Geeez, there are some real idiots on this site these days who just have nothing better to do than make baseless accusations! No wonder I rarely post anymore. There are some real anal posters who can't accept honest opinions. Sorry to read it, but this site has really hit the skids!

Rappers are predominately black, you immediately assumed all rappers are idiots. Thats pretty ignorant, you clearly hasn't listened to very much rap to make that assumption. If you hear it on the radio its probably not the rap you need to listen to. I don't thing your is racist, that's obviously a little much but its weird standard. Most Pop singers have hit teams write their music but I doubt you view them as stupid.

Rappers like Tupac and Kanye West went to performing arts schools despite growing up in the inner cities. 2 Chainz in college educated. NaS dropped out of highschool and found higher learning by reading dozens of books that expanded his knowledge and vocabulary. At 21 he released which is widely viewed as the greatest hip hop album ever by describing in vivid detail the streets he came from. Rap is really no different from rock or soul, or even blues. The youth identifies with it and its breaking down barriers. White teenagers are listening and buying rap en masses and becoming more familiar with a [black] culture that their parents never really understood.

[cd021]

Wale is a lousy rapper and I remember him saying the Spurs would lose to the Jazz before the 2012 playoffs.

Great rapper, bad at predicting the outcome of playoff series.

[chrhawk]

Great rapper, bad at predicting the outcome of playoff series.

Guys like A Tribe Called Quest, Jeru the Damaja, Immortal Technique and Das Efx are great hip hop IMO. Guys like Rick Ross, Wale, Lil Wayne are all ass tbh.

[Kingsly Alexander]

Neither does any self-respecting, decent, sophisticated human being.

If Kawhi wants real people to like him, then this video isn't doing much. This only gets him a higher profile with the dregs of the world.

"Artists" in any genre of music are probably 75% hypocrites and/or con-artists. It's unfair to single out Rap/Hip-Hop because you don't like the music or have a problem with their lyrics.

It's like, I love Bob Dylan's music, but lyrically he's full of . Is it poetry? No. And if its folk, music for the masses, then was he so cryptic and nonsensical.

[Kingsly Alexander]

Guys like A Tribe Called Quest, Jeru the Damaja, Immortal Technique and Das Efx are great hip hop IMO. Guys like Rick Ross, Wale, Lil Wayne are all ass tbh.

De La Soul, Public Enemy, Pete Rock and CL Smooth

[chrhawk]

De La Soul, Public Enemy, Pete Rock and CL Smooth

This. Got all of their songs on my ipod.

[Kingsly Alexander]

Now I'm a racist too? Geeez, there are some real idiots on this site these days who just have nothing better to do than make baseless accusations! No wonder I rarely post anymore. There are some real anal posters who can't accept honest opinions. Sorry to read it, but this site has really hit the skids!

So what are ur musical preferences?

Thats what many do when they're losing the argument. It deflects attention from their inaneness.

the "argument" hasn't even begun. and why are u so sensitive at the suggestion if it wasn't even targeted at you?

[Kingsly Alexander]

Rappers are predominately black, you immediately assumed all rappers are idiots. Thats pretty ignorant, you clearly hasn't listened to very much rap to make that assumption. If you hear it on the radio its probably not the rap you need to listen to. I don't thing your is racist, that's obviously a little much but its weird standard. Most Pop singers have hit teams write their music but I doubt you view them as stupid.

Rappers like Tupac and Kanye West went to performing arts schools despite growing up in the inner cities. 2 Chainz in college educated. NaS dropped out of highschool and found higher learning by reading dozens of books that expanded his knowledge and vocabulary. At 21 he released which is widely viewed as the greatest hip hop album ever by describing in vivid detail the streets he came from. Rap is really no different from rock or soul, or even blues. The youth identifies with it and its breaking down barriers. White teenagers are listening and buying rap en masses and becoming more familiar with a [black] culture that their parents never really understood.

Truth.

And where are Skull and Xmas now quick to dismiss someone who plays the race card right off the back, but when it comes to arguing with anyone who can intelligently argue in a legit fashion their nowhere to be found.

Maybe ppl are quick to throw labels like racist around so quickly because they just don't have the patience and are just being real.

[Kingsly Alexander]

This. Got all of their songs on my ipod.

most definitely. early mid 90's hip hop is legendary. I love early Pac a lot too. All of his is legendary but his is early before he got all the hate and and it spilled into his music was his best, IMO

Just as significant as Jazz in the 50's with front runners like Miles, Charlie Parker, Dizzy or Rock in the 60s and 70s like Hendrix and Joplin to Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd.

[xmas1997]

Truth.

And where are Skull and Xmas now quick to dismiss someone who plays the race card right off the back, but when it comes to arguing with anyone who can intelligently argue in a legit fashion their nowhere to be found.

Maybe ppl are quick to throw labels like racist around so quickly because they just don't have the patience and are just being real.

Obviously you don't know how to read because if you had then you would know that I defended the guy who was called a racist, and not one of the ones calling him a racist, even though that poster and I disagreed on everything else. What I don't like is "ignorance" because ignorance is what fuels racism, or weren't you aware of that fact?
And actually, if you had read the posts, I asked him WHY they were calling him a racist since nothing he wrote could infer such a thing unless it was deleted and I never read it. Get your facts straight next time, Dude.

[TheGreatYacht]

Obviously you don't know how to read because if you had then you would know that I defended the guy who was called a racist, and not one of the ones calling him a racist, even though that poster and I disagreed on everything else. What I don't like is "ignorance" because ignorance is what fuels racism, or weren't you aware of that fact?

Thanks for admitting that I'm not racist but rather hate on the truth bombs that I throw your way.

[xmas1997]

Thanks for admitting that I'm not racist but rather hate on the truth bombs that I throw your way.

What truth bombs are you throwing that are not clearly out and out gross exaggerations of the facts on your part?
I haven't been exaggerating when I said clearly that the whole team is at fault, not just Manu and Pop, and by extension I suppose you could also include the FO, but at least I am not trying to convince everyone of a gross exaggeration. There is a difference and a major one, I am being realistic and rational here, and you sir, are most definitely not. And I am not trying to make my points by cramming your same redundant opinion down peoples throats.

I will always defend those who are wrongly called a racist if there be no reason for the accusation. And so far no one coulld show me one in your case. But I will also defend against gross exaggerations. Both stem from ignorance.

[cd021]

Guys like A Tribe Called Quest, Jeru the Damaja, Immortal Technique and Das Efx are great hip hop IMO. Guys like Rick Ross, Wale, Lil Wayne are all ass tbh.

I'm surprised you'd put him in the same category as Lil' Wayne. He is smart & clever, utilizing exotic beats and samples rapping over them as if if were old school freestyles. He actually reminds me of NaS. He aligns himself with lesser rappers but his head and shoulders above them.

"The Mixtape about Nothing" and "More About Nothing" are great tapes. I suggest who take a listen. It may change your mind about him.

[Kingsly Alexander]

Obviously you don't know how to read because if you had then you would know that I defended the guy who was called a racist, and not one of the ones calling him a racist, even though that poster and I disagreed on everything else. What I don't like is "ignorance" because ignorance is what fuels racism, or weren't you aware of that fact?
And actually, if you had read the posts, I asked him WHY they were calling him a racist since nothing he wrote could infer such a thing unless it was deleted and I never read it. Get your facts straight next time, Dude.

forgive me in advance if you've posted other replies that I'm not quoting here, because this is all I see on MY screen, but based on ur two previous statements i have quoted here, I don't get how the you think ur defending anyone or saying anything ur claiming to of said.

Oximoron if I ever heard one!

So is this where your defending the "racist" then? idk. there seems to be something really off. All I read is "hahaha, right? Rappers are stupid". And maybe i shouldnt assume anything here, but in the risk of being politically incorrect I think in ur saying rappers are all stupid and since for the most part they belong to a certain demographic or other minorities, ur basically summizing black ppl and other minorities who culturally identify with the language of rap, are stupid. The whole lot of us, then? Maybe I should read more carefully? Haha. Maybe you should post more carefully. Since, when have ppl been so sensitive? Maybe when spurstalk's forums became more culturally diverse and now a majority of ppl will call someone out when their sounding like a ing backwards ass

Now I'm a racist too? Geeez, there are some real idiots on this site these days who just have nothing better to do than make baseless accusations! No wonder I rarely post anymore. There are some real anal posters who can't accept honest opinions. Sorry to read it, but this site has really hit the skids!

"Blah, blah, blah" idk. I don't see anything about an intolerance to ignorance or any questions about why he was called a racist. This is so ing backwards, I'm convinced a post of yours isn't showing up on my screen or was deleted.

[xmas1997]

forgive me in advance if you've posted other replies that I'm not quoting here, because this is all I see on MY screen, but based on ur two previous statements i have quoted here, I don't get how the you think ur defending anyone or saying anything ur claiming to of said.


So is this where your defending the "racist" then? idk. there seems to be something really off. All I read is "hahaha, right? Rappers are stupid". And maybe i shouldnt assume anything here, but in the risk of being politically incorrect I think in ur saying rappers are all stupid and since for the most part they belong to a certain demographic or other minorities, ur basically summizing black ppl and other minorities who culturally identify with the language of rap, are stupid. The whole lot of us, then? Maybe I should read more carefully? Haha. Maybe you should post more carefully. Since, when have ppl been so sensitive? Maybe when spurstalk's forums became more culturally diverse and now a majority of ppl will call someone out when their sounding like a ing backwards ass



"Blah, blah, blah" idk. I don't see anything about an intolerance to ignorance or any questions about why he was called a racist. This is so ing backwards, I'm convinced a post of yours isn't showing up on my screen or was deleted.

Not sure you know the meaning of oximoron, but it's really not important. Intelligent rappers = oximoron, like military intelligence. It is no knock against the military or rappers in general because I have great appreciation for the military, just hardly any for rap. It is a joke however you want to look at it though, and considering the comment as being racist sounds to me like you are really reaching in order to defend a particular genre of music which IMHO shouldn't even be considered music at all. Being a musician all my life I can be a little offended that rap would be considered in the same breath. Love soul, pop, jazz, blues, rock etc. I just don't see how rap can be used in the same sentence. Just my opinion, but certainly nothing racist.
Seems to me you should be looking to yourself for the ignorance and racism you so freely throw at others just because I find a particular genre to be ludicrous.

[cd021]

"Artists" in any genre of music are probably 75% hypocrites and/or con-artists. It's unfair to single out Rap/Hip-Hop because you don't like the music or have a problem with their lyrics.

This.

Pop can get away with sexual innuendo as long as they're subtle. Rap can't because they are upfront that makes no sense to me.

[cd021]

Not sure you know the meaning of oximoron, but it's really not important. Intelligent rappers = oximoron, like military intelligence. It is no knock against the military or rappers in general because I have great appreciation for the military, just hardly any for rap. It is a joke however you want to look at it though, and considering the comment as being racist sounds to me like you are really reaching in order to defend a particular genre of music which IMHO shouldn't even be considered music at all. Being a musician all my life I can be a little offended that rap would be considered in the same breath. Love soul, pop, jazz, blues, rock etc. I just don't see how rap can be used in the same sentence. Just my opinion, but certainly nothing racist.
Seems to me you should be looking to yourself for the ignorance and racism you so freely throw at others just because I find a particular genre to be ludicrous.

You haven't listened t many of the great hip hop artists to get a better sense of the genre. NaS "Illmatic" is considered the greatest hip hop album it would be a great place to start. Hip-hop is essentially the same as Blues in the 30's and 40's, Rock N' Roll in the 50's and 60's Punk in the 70's and Grunge in the 90's. Its the new thing (fairly new) that gets criticized harshly but is prevalent amongst younger people. I dislike Soccer, but its a sport.

Listening to artists like T-Pain, Lil Wayne, and Soulja boy on the radio can turn anyone off the it. I personally only listen to a handful of artists now from rap. It forced me to expand past rap. I got into Rock (Hendrix, Nirvana, White Stripes) and Blues (Son House, Robert Johnson, Mississippi John Hurt) and even Pop.

[cd021]

most definitely. early mid 90's hip hop is legendary. I love early Pac a lot too. All of his is legendary but his is early before he got all the hate and and it spilled into his music was his best, IMO

Just as significant as Jazz in the 50's with front runners like Miles, Charlie Parker, Dizzy or Rock in the 60s and 70s like Hendrix and Joplin to Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd.

Agree.

Me Against the World is a personal fav. His personality and feeling change from record to record. On that he had to go through a trial (in which he proclamed innocence) and being nearly fatally shot by his own people. It was his last thoroughly great LP ( his last two had moments)

Artists like Rakim, NaS, Wu-Tang Clan, ATCQ, Ice Cube and The Notorious B.I.G. paved the way for all the success rappers have to day in terms of record sales and mainstream acceptance.

[look_at_g_shred]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0EbOTE70jKAGreat Hip Hop

[RD2191]

Immortal Tech, nuff said.

[MR-Clutch]

Guys like A Tribe Called Quest, Jeru the Damaja, Immortal Technique and Das Efx are great hip hop IMO. Guys like Rick Ross, Wale, Lil Wayne are all ass tbh.

I agree but I also wouldn't put Wale in the same group as Ross and Wayne. He hasn't really defined himself as a rapper but he has a lot of talent and is versatile. Ross & Wayne give rap a bad name.

[Sean Cagney]

This. Got all of their songs on my ipod.

Good stuff. Mobb Deep Infamous and Gza Liquid Swords I will add out of the blue. Black Moons Enta Da Stage and Lords Of The Undergrounds First album too. Damn I love hip hop.

[Sean Cagney]

Agree.

Me Against the World is a personal fav. His personality and feeling change from record to record. On that he had to go through a trial (in which he proclamed innocence) and being nearly fatally shot by his own people. It was his last thoroughly great LP ( his last two had moments)

Artists like Rakim, NaS, Wu-Tang Clan, ATCQ, Ice Cube and The Notorious B.I.G. paved the way for all the success rappers have to day in terms of record sales and mainstream acceptance.

Hendrix fan and all u said there. Your my fave poster on ST lol.

[Sean Cagney]

LOL intelligent rappers.

Yeah because hip hop never had any real poets in its time right? I mean none never said true to life stuff. I think you must have never heard some albums or u are just old.