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Wow, I was just about ready to join hands with everyone here and sing "Ebony and Ivory". Nice Bouts.
GZ didn't do by not using SYG, except get some.
The judge invoked it for him:
"JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE
The killing of a human being is justifiable and lawful if necessarily done while resisting an attempt to murder or commit a felony upon George Zimmerman, or to commit a felony inany dwelling house in which George Zimmerman was at the time of the attempted killing.
EXCUSABLE HOMICIDE
The killing of a human being is excusable, and therefore lawful, under any one of thethree following cir stances:
1. When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful actby lawful means with usual ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent, or
2. When the killing occurs by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or
3. When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the attempted killing is not done in a cruel and unusual manner."
http://www.scribd.com/doc/153354467/...y-Instructions
So you right-wing racists who say ALEC/NRA/gun-industry/white-supremacist's SYG law, aka legal- -killin-law, wasn't the issue, and that race wasn't the issue, and/or because GZ didn't use SYG, you're wrong, as always.
Wow, I was just about ready to join hands with everyone here and sing "Ebony and Ivory". Nice Bouts.
OK, well as long as we're back at each others throats...
The Lynching (Jul. 19, 2013)
http://www.pjtv.com/s/GEZDSMRS
an analysis of Supplemental Homicide Reports submitted by local law enforcement to the FBI between 2005 and 2010 demonstrates that in cases with a Black shooter and a White victim, the rate of justifiable homicide rulings is about 1 percent. However, if the shooter is White and the victim is Black, it is ruled justified in 9.5 percent of cases in non-Stand Your Ground (SYG) states.
In SYG states, the rate is even higher—almost 17 percent, according to John Roman of the Urban Ins ute.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-libert...ten-imprisoned
That is a totally meaningless statistic.
This again? If the head is split you must acquit!
There's one big but, however, and that's in Florida, where Trayvon Martin's family is said to be considering a civil case against Zimmerman. (The U.S. Department of Justice is also undertaking a review of evidence in the case.)
In a civil proceeding against Zimmerman, the Martin family would have the opportunity to challenge a central, and controversial, section of Florida's stand your ground statute.
The section is led, "Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force."
Indeed, the section provides the opportunity for just that: a path to pretrial immunity for potential defendants who can prove in a hearing before a judge that a "preponderance of evidence" shows that their deadly or potentially deadly actions fell into the category of reasonable self-defense.
Zimmerman did not ask for an immunity hearing before his criminal trial, but that does not preclude him from requesting one if he faces a civil trial, says associate law professor Tamara Rice Lave of the University of Miami's School of Law.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolit...merman-verdict
That's what I have been saying all along. Because of Martins actions Zimmerman will be immune from a civil trial.
OPPONENTS OF STAND YOUR GROUND PROPOSE NEW LAW
TALLAHASSEE (The Borowitz Report)—Opponents of Florida’s Stand Your Ground law are attempting to mobilize support for a new law called Don’t Shoot Me for Absolutely No Reason.
The proposed law, which faces major opposition in the Florida legislature, would make it illegal for people in the state to shoot each other for no reason whatsoever.
“Under the provisions of Don’t Shoot Me for Absolutely No Reason, you will be required to have an actual reason for shooting someone,” said a spokesman for the measure, Harland Dorrinson. “This will be a first in Florida.”
The controversial bill has already drawn the ire of the National Rifle Association, which issued a statement today saying that requiring someone to have a reason to shoot another person would violate the Second Amendment.
“If you force someone to have a reason to shoot someone, soon you will be taking away his right to shoot that person altogether,” the N.R.A. said.
“We are not in principle against the idea of having a reason to shoot someone,” the N.R.A. continued. “But we believe you should be allowed to shoot the person first and have the reason second.”
Even if Don’t Shoot Me for Absolutely No Reason somehow passes in the legislature, Florida Gov. Rick Scott said today that he would veto it, telling reporters, “Making people in Florida have a reason to shoot each other would fundamentally change our way of life.”
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...rowitz%20(153)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/romany...b_3612231.html
I haven't touched on the Trayvon Martin issue because race matters in this country are the paralysis of the American people. To constructively discuss Trayvon would require empathy, introspection and an understanding of America's social and economic history. This is why the open forums we have seen thus far seem to fuel more ignorance and bias than reasonable debate.
To be brutally honest, the only reason people are even aware of Trayvon Martin is because it became a topic within mainstream news and pop culture. Meaning: News directors saw it as a profitable, sensational story. Hundreds of blacks die annually in South Side Chicago without even a blurb. Trayvon isn't in the mainstream news for any reason other than ratings and profit. The news coverage on the Zimmerman case almost implies that the killing of this young black man is somehow an anomaly and I resent that.
In this country, if it isn't streamlined through mainstream media and pop culture, it doesn't seem to warrant national debate. Our "government" continues to wreak havoc on our civil liberties and there is little to no protest from the black community because of media diversion tactics that keep such pertinent issues out of mainstream media. But if Jay-Z or Rihanna were to make mention of it, we'd suddenly be jolted out of our sugar comas and protesting on freeways.
My point being, people are up in arms about Trayvon based on regurgitated pundits and manipulated facts aired to elicit emotion while fueling America's anger and division. That's how you boost ratings. No different from Piers Morgan's desperate rant over gun control when he knew his ratings were in the dumps. And from where I stand, anyone who still relies on corporate-owned media pundits to support an argument isn't equipped to offer worthwhile solutions.
People are using Trayvon Martin's death as an excuse to project their own deep-seated issues with racism and will not be capable of intelligent, empathetic debate until they've cooled down and afforded themselves an education.
Addressing Trayvon without first addressing the absence of critical thinking in our schools, the lack of introspection, the reasons for our low tolerance and our country's skewed value system does nothing more than create a sounding board for the ignorant. So rather than facilitate more racism outcry, I'd like to address young black people specifically.
I believe we lost that trial for Trayvon long before he was killed. Trayvon was doomed the moment ignorance became synonymous with young black America . We lost that case by using media outlets (music, movies, social media, etc.) as vehicles to perpetuate the same negative images and social issues that destroyed the black community in the first place. When we went on record glorifying violent crime and when we voted for a president we never thought to hold accountable. When we signed on to do reality shows that fed into the media's stereotypes of black men, we ingrained an image of Trayvon Martin so overwhelming that who he actually may have been didn't matter anymore.
Don't you find it peculiar that the same media outlets who have worked so diligently to galvanize the negative stigmas of black men in America are now airing open debates on improving the image of black males in American media? Do you honestly think CNN is using their compe ive time slots for philanthropy?
"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel
If we really wanted to ensure Trayvon Martin's killing was not in vain, we'd stop perpetuating negative images that are now synonymous with black men in America. We'd stop rapping about selling drugs and killing s. The next time we saw a man beating a woman, we'd call for help or break it up, but one thing we would not do is stand by with our cellphones out -- yelling WORLDSTAR! Instead of rewarding kids for memorization, we'd reward them for independent and critical thinking.
We'd spend less time subconsciously repeating lyrics about death and murder and more time understanding why we are so willing to twerk to songs that bemean women and boast of having things we cannot afford. We'd set examples of self-love for our youth by honoring our own hair, skin and eye color. We'd stop spending money on designer gear that we should be spending on our physical and psychological health. We'd seek information outside the corporate owned-media that manipulates us. We'd stop letting television babysit our kids and we'd quit regurgitating pundits we haven't come up with on our own.
Education, introspection, self-love and excellence are the only ways to overcome the wrath of ignorance. So before going back to popping molly and getting Turnt Up, I urge you to consider the implications of your actions. Your child's life may depend on it
Looks like there is a space big enough in the middle there to fit in the part about having four minutes to run back home.
she's dead, no witnesses, so the man can spin all kinds lies, spew inconsistencies, in his defense, confuse the jury.
Shouldering all that white guilt is gonna send boutons, et al to an early grave.
It's not illegal to not run home. You can't use this argument if you say Zimmerman stalking, following, chasing, or what have you isn't illegal. Bottom line is, you just don't follow people! This is your stance, "It's ok for a creepy man to follow people in the black of the night, it's not illegal".
STFU demon.
someone's a little salty about the WHITE thread
Diet Trill?
lame. I don't know what mah boy Trill sees in your dumbass.
Lol, knees him, pepper sprays him, or trips him.
Is that what TM did to GZ?
Yup, you've been branded. Congrats.
You are correct. It is not illegal to not run home, just as it is not illegal to follow someone. It is illegal to assault someone, even if you don't like them following you. That is what got Trayvon killed, I'm not sure why that is so hard for you to understand. Your stance of thinking that is okay is completely wrong. It would be ill advised to be walking around thinking you can assault people with no repercussions.
Meh whatever.
Look, I can't be that type of "friend" to you. Be happy you found a black guy like Trill who fulfills your racist desires and quit trying to draw me in. As for me, I don't think the racist trolls are all that joking. I really do think that loser whites like yourself (no offense), vent their racist frustrations online because of personal problems or they feel sooooppressed
Anyway, I'm not going to be your friend got it? Now begone demon!
Last edited by Creepn; 07-23-2013 at 06:17 PM.
What got him killed was someone provoking fear in the target. Why do you keep saying Trayvon assaulted him as fact? You don't know what happen and I think Zimmerman created physical contact first anyway. Your stance is that you think it's ok to chase someone in the dark and not expect any unfortunate outcome to happen and when it does, it's all the victims fault because it's not illegal. That is completely wrong.
You quoted and engaged me the last couple days, not the other way around. So you're either a) a liar, or b) too mentally weak to not take the bait.
C'mon fam, grandma raised you better than that.
Come on now, just because you on your troll account doesn't mean the other times you contacted me on a different account doesn't count.
C'mon fam, grandma raised you better than that.
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