Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 49
  1. #1
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    41,430
    I now realize the award means as little as All-Star game appearances: it is voted on by media members much like the ASG is a popularity contest voted on by fans.

    It appears the MVP awarded regarding the following logic:

    1) Best player on the team with the best record.

    Or

    2) Best overall player.

    With me so far?

    05 -06 MVP
    Teams with the best record:
    Detroit Pistons (64-18)
    San Antonio Spurs (63-19)

    Meanwhile, Steve Nash, the 05-06 MVP winner's Phoenix Suns were a paltry 54-28.

    Chauncey Billups 18.5ppg, 3.1rpg, 8.6apg, 0.9spg

    With the "Best player on the best team" logic, Chauncey Billups, Tim Duncan, Tony Parker were all robbed because they were more qualified candidates.

    If Steve Nash was awarded MVP, he must've been the best player in the league overall?

    Nash: 18.8ppg, 4.2rpg, 10.5asp, 0.8spg

    In comparison to:
    Kobe 35.4ppg, 5.3rpg, 4.5apg, 1.8spg

    Not to mention, this was the same season Kobe dropped 81 in 4 quarters, 62 through 3 quarters outscoring an entire team by himself, etc.

    So, if Steve Nash couldn't have won while he was the best player on the best team, and couldn't have won while he was the NBA's best overall player...Why did he?

  2. #2
    Banned
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,679
    If fans chose accolades, Kobe Bryant would be 10x MVP & 8x DPOY.

    The NBA is wise to not let fans choose accolades.

  3. #3
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    41,430
    If fans chose accolades, Kobe Bryant would be 10x MVP & 8x DPOY.

    The NBA is wise to not let fans choose accolades.
    why is the media any better than fans? Especially when the media has proven to be corrupt and inept...you still trust they made all the right voting decisions...or just want to ignore my post above and spout non-sense

  4. #4
    Banned
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,679
    why is the media any better than fans? Especially when the media has proven to be corrupt and inept...you still trust they made all the right voting decisions...or just want to ignore my post above and spout non-sense
    The media would not have Jeremy Lin in the top 5 for his position in all star voting.

  5. #5
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    41,430
    ONE of the MAIN reasons why Kobe Bryant hasn't won 4 or 5 MVP's is because of the Colorado case. The Media is controlled by White men and they hate Kobe. They don't care about his basketball skills. They only care about whether his image is marketable or not. Remember back when Kobe used to average 35 points a season and hitting all them big shots in the playoffs for LA when they had scrubs like Smush Parker and Kwami Brown on the team LMFAO? In my opinion Kobe should have at least 4 MVP's by now.

    Would LeTravel James still be the NBA's Golden Boy? Come on man the man can't even get to the basket without traveling. In terms of pure Basketball skills Kobe is second to none and any Basketball purist will tell you that. Kobe has been the BEST PURE Basketball player since 2001. Taking a trash team made of players like Kwame Brown and Smush Parker into the Playoffs should have earned Kobe a Congressional Medal of Honor. LOL..

  6. #6
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    8,329
    why is the media any better than fans? Especially when the media has proven to be corrupt and inept...you still trust they made all the right voting decisions...or just want to ignore my post above and spout non-sense
    Real talk

  7. #7
    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    6,440
    05-06 Kirby was arguably the best player in the league due to his scoring ability, but multiple players averaged over 30 ppg and Kirby didn't even score the most points despite his huge ppg

    Iverson averaged 33 ppg on 45% FG(league leader in total points) with 3.2 rebs, 7.4 ast and 1.9 stls per game, individually arguably better than Kirby, though his team only won 38 games. Basically both players scored a lot of points with Iverson being the better playmaker but neither of them could win many games. I don't see how Kirby deserved the MVP that year. Obviously benefited from the rule changes.

  8. #8
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    41,430
    Kobe should have won MVPS in these seasons:

    2002-2003 - Avg 30 ppg 6.9 rebs 5 assts

    2005-2006 - Avg 35 ppg 5rebs 4 assts

    2006-2007 - Avg 31 ppg 6 rebs 4 assts

    2007-2008 - Avg 28 ppg 5 rebs 5 assts - Only Time he won MVP

    Kobe should have 4 MVPS under his belt right now, but since MVP is a media worthy award, Kobe was very mislooked. Its okay, Kobe is all about winning and his les will put him over the top when its all said and done.

  9. #9
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    8,329
    The media would not have Jeremy Lin in the top 5 for his position in all star voting.
    flawed logic. all star games are for pure entertainment.

  10. #10
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Clippers
    Post Count
    54,257
    why is the media any better than fans?
    Because the Chinese would make sure Yao got MVP every year....

  11. #11
    Banned
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,679
    flawed logic. all star games are for pure entertainment.
    There is no entertainment in watching Jeremy Lin. If fans voted for accolades, then we would see the players with the biggest fan base get the most accolades. Kobe Bryant would win DPOY if he head the league in turnovers.

  12. #12
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    41,430
    There is no entertainment in watching Jeremy Lin. If fans voted for accolades, then we would see the players with the biggest fan base get the most accolades. Kobe Bryant would win DPOY if he head the league in turnovers.
    Kobe has more Chinese fans that Yao Ming..but same difference when it comes to to the media right? He has more haters and yet they're allowed to vote MVP...

  13. #13
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    8,329
    of course that's not true, there are a lot more basketball fans in usa than china. Fail.

  14. #14
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Clippers
    Post Count
    54,257
    flawed logic. all star games are for pure entertainment.
    Flawed logic on your part, a lot of players have clauses in their contracts giving them extra money for making or starting in the All-Star Game.... if the Chinese vote-spammers had managed to get Lin in, a superior player with that clause might have been ed over, tbh....

  15. #15
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Clippers
    Post Count
    54,257
    of course that's not true, there are a lot more basketball fans in usa than china. Fail.
    The Chinese managed to make Yao an All-Star "starter" in a year when he only played 5 games.... they almost got Yi ing Jianlian into the ASG over Garnett

  16. #16
    Banned
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    2,679
    Kobe has more Chinese fans that Yao Ming..but same difference when it comes to to the media right? He has more haters and yet they're allowed to vote MVP...
    Do you not see how the point of accolades would deteriorate, then? Instead of it rewarding skill, it rewards popularity. What percent of fans, do you believe, actually appreciate and understand defense?

  17. #17
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    41,430
    Do you not see how the point of accolades would deteriorate, then? Instead of it rewarding skill, it rewards popularity. What percent of fans, do you believe, actually appreciate and understand defense?
    prove to me that a prime Kobe was not the best scoring wing defender in the league...he may not have been a Bruce Bowen level defender but he was close...Kobe was a great defender for 80% of his career

  18. #18
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    8,329
    The Chinese managed to make Yao an All-Star "starter" in a year when he only played 5 games.... they almost got Yi ing Jianlian into the ASG over Garnett
    the chinese movement wasn't the only one voting for jianlian. A huge number of his votes were from americans trolling the voting system.

    Yao deserved to play in ever AS game those years. If jamal magloire and chris kaman are getting in then yao by default should be in

  19. #19
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    8,329
    I hate chattin when usin my S3 so ill be back later and preach

  20. #20
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Clippers
    Post Count
    54,257
    Yao deserved to play in ever AS game those years. If jamal magloire and chris kaman are getting in then yao by default should be in
    So you think Yao should have been wheeled out in a chair in 2011 instead of Duncan getting to start (and Love getting to be on the team)? You're even dumber than I thought

  21. #21
    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Post Count
    8,329
    Its common sense. A player voted in doesn't mean he has to play if he's injured. Thanks for spinnin that DJ Mike.

  22. #22
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Post Count
    22,198
    05-06 Kirby was arguably the best player in the league due to his scoring ability, but multiple players averaged over 30 ppg and Kirby didn't even score the most points despite his huge ppg

    Iverson averaged 33 ppg on 45% FG(league leader in total points) with 3.2 rebs, 7.4 ast and 1.9 stls per game, individually arguably better than Kirby, though his team only won 38 games. Basically both players scored a lot of points with Iverson being the better playmaker but neither of them could win many games. I don't see how Kirby deserved the MVP that year. Obviously benefited from the rule changes.
    Double check your research. It's incorrect.

  23. #23
    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Post Count
    6,440
    Double check your research. It's incorrect.
    2005-06 30 PHI NBA PG 72 72 43.1 11.3 25.3 .447 1.0 3.1 .323 9.4 11.5 .814 0.6 2.6 3.2 7.4 1.9 0.1 3.4 1.7 33.0

  24. #24
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
    My Team
    Detroit Pistons
    Post Count
    22,198
    Ok. Now post Kobe's 2005-06 season and make sure it's the correct season. Also post points totals each for that season.

  25. #25
    Board Man Comes Home Clipper Nation's Avatar
    My Team
    Los Angeles Clippers
    Post Count
    54,257
    LeBron was more deserving than Kirby in '05-'06, tbh.... he "only" averaged 31.4 PPG compared to Kirby's 35.4, but had a better FG%, TS%, and eFG%, averaged more assists per game, had a better offensive and defensive rating, put up more win shares, and his team was better than Kirby's....

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •