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    no way just go with deshaun thomas at this point. someone young and hungry to learn from our pro's. why waste this spot on jamison?
    I would like to see Thomas get a roster spot but I think he will play in Europe this season.

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    Regarding Bertans, the plan would be to sign at about the mid season once he recovered from his ACL surgery. He might be Spurs target because he is a big time prospect.

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    I have to think they're waiting on the Oden domino to fall before pursuing the next steps with available SFs. They can always sign Thomas if other FAs fall through.
    this would be my guess as well.

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    League min guys will always be there. I doubt the Spurs sign a league min SF before seeing if they can make something happen with a Neal/Blair S&T, possibly in combination with someone out of the backup PG trio.

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    The more I think about it the more I believe he's not going to pick the Spurs. He's gonna pick the Heat. The thing is, I read something in a recent interview where he said he wants to win 15 championships (very unlikely I know). When he looks over at the heat roster, you have the best player in the NBA in his prime along with Wade and Bosh. Then you look over at our squad...you see a 37 year old Tim Duncan who is the team's best player as well as a declining Argentinian. Oh don't forget the French-men who seemed to shutdown when it mattered most. Now of course it's a no-brainer for him. This guy doesn't care about his health or any of that. He wants to go to a team where he can ride his way to a championship...have a few good games during the season, and call it a comeback for the ages. I really hope i'm wrong. I'd like to see Oden at 100% learning from the greatest ever. That would be something to witness for us Spurs fans. If he's smart, he'd pick the Spurs where he can slowly get his form back and not really have to contribute right away. Here there is no pressure of succeeding or failing. It's just pure Spurs basketball.
    He wants to win 15 championships? Spurs are by far the best place for him, but if he is this delusional, then he'll pick another team and try to ride his way to a Championship, rather than play a big part in one.
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    Spurs not being linked with a single SF since the Kirilenko try is puzzling.

    While Spurs will obviously play some Ginobil and Green at the SF spot, they aren't fine with what they have at SF as RC confirmed in SL with "we have a hole behind Kawhi". You have to wonder what is their plan Thomas? Bertans? Waiting for an opportunity around the trade deadline?

    We will see but it's weird to see Spurs letting basically all the free agents being signed without trying to fix what they are describing as a "hole".
    What are the chances of a deal before the deadline? I'm talking about before the season specifically.

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    What are the chances of a deal before the deadline?
    This is contingent on so many factors, it's nearly impossible to speculate.

    Our team's health, expendability of players (both ours and potential trading partner's), record of our team, record of compe ion, and so on and so on.

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    http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

    Mosgov has been a regular at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas, going hard daily against the likes of Oklahoma City’s Serge Ibaka. The word around Summer League was that Mozgov was headed to the Sacramento Kings as a free agent, although the Denver Nuggets were trying to re-sign him.

    There were reports this week that after signing guard Nate Robinson to a free agent deal, the Nuggets could be working on a sign-and-trade deal for Mozgov.

    The Spurs have emerged as a team interested in Mozgov and they could be the team trying to construct a deal with Denver.

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    What are the chances of a deal before the deadline? I'm talking about before the season specifically.
    Odds are very remote.

    The vast majority of the NBA trades are either made in late June/Early July or at the February trade deadline. So it's unlikely Spurs did a move before the start of the season. Your best hope would be some kind of S&T with Blair or Neal but it's more and more unlikely with each day passing.

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    Spurs not being linked with a single SF since the Kirilenko try is puzzling.

    While Spurs will obviously play some Ginobil and Green at the SF spot, they aren't fine with what they have at SF as RC confirmed in SL with "we have a hole behind Kawhi". You have to wonder what is their plan Thomas? Bertans? Waiting for an opportunity around the trade deadline?

    We will see but it's weird to see Spurs letting basically all the free agents being signed without trying to fix what they are describing as a "hole".
    The SF market outside of AK for this team was pretty underwhelming - I'm really not convinced anybody else who is listed as a SF would contribute more than Manu/Green/Belinelli (and we can play Diaw there vs. bigger wings who know how to use their size*). One strength of RC & Pop is that they have rarely panicked and just "done something" to fill a hole. If plan A doesn't work and plan B sucks, roll with what you've got and maintain flexibility going forward.

    Even if this is what we have in Game 1, it's still plenty good enough to push 60 wins** and the team will have the trading deadline and March releases to look at covering any gaps that exist at that point.

    * few and far between
    ** if semi-healthy

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    Odds are very remote.

    The vast majority of the NBA trades are either made in late June/Early July or at the February trade deadline. So it's unlikely Spurs did a move before the start of the season. Your best hope would be some kind of S&T with Blair or Neal but it's more and more unlikely with each day passing.
    Thank you for your insight. Since we have taken away Neal's QO, how long do we have to do a S&T with him, or Blair for that matter?

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    Thank you for your insight. Since we have taken away Neal's QO, how long do we have to do a S&T with him, or Blair for that matter?
    S&T can be done until the last day of the preseason which is October 28th this year. Neal and Blair should have find a team way before that either by a classic signing or by a S&T.

    Reasons why Neal and Blair still aren't signed are quite easy to guess.
    For Neal, the RFA status has slow down the process and Milwaukee, that is said to be interested in him has its hands full with the Jennings situation.
    For Blair, while I think a lot of teams would welcome him for a min salary, teams are way more wary of giving the $3M per year he deserves because of his knees. For whatever reason(s), it seems that a S&T to Washington hasn't worked out so Blair will likely to settle for a min salary unless a team like Dallas signs him with the room exception.

    And, at the end, Neal and Blair being just signed by other teams is way more likely than & S&T. Spurs offseason has a good chance of being over which kinda sucks.

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    S&T can be done until the last day of the preseason which is October 28th this year. Neal and Blair should have find a team way before that either by a classic signing or by a S&T.

    Reasons why Neal and Blair still aren't signed are quite easy to guess.
    For Neal, the RFA status has slow down the process and Milwaukee, that is said to be interested in him has its hands full with the Jennings situation.
    For Blair, while I think a lot of teams would welcome him for a min salary, teams are way more wary of giving the $3M per year he deserves because of his knees. For whatever reason(s), it seems that a S&T to Washington hasn't worked out so Blair will likely to settle for a min salary unless a team like Dallas signs him with the room exception.

    And, at the end, Neal and Blair being just signed by other teams is way more likely than & S&T. Spurs offseason has a good chance of being over which kinda sucks.
    Yes, as you mentioned earlier, it's just strange the Spurs have not been mentioned in any discussions with a Kawhi backup since AK47. Suppose Oden is still a possibility, but doesn't address our needs so much. You know the FO knows we need to win now. Is replacing Neal with Belinelli the endgame?

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    I'm really not convinced anybody else who is listed as a SF would contribute more than Manu
    Considering the fact that he's going to miss 40 games next year, there's lots of players that can do better than 0 pt/0 reb/0 ast.

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    Spurs were said to be interested in him a couple of years ago. Saying that, Spurs don't really have a need for him with their current roster.

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    Spurs were said to be interested in him a couple of years ago. Saying that, Spurs don't really have a need for him with their current roster.
    If he clears waivers, he will go to FC Barcelona who buy his european rights a year ago.

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    Spurs were said to be interested in him a couple of years ago. Saying that, Spurs don't really have a need for him with their current roster.
    I would have liked if he was available last year itself. The Bucks were idiots who overloaded their team with too many PF/Cs and Ayon never got enough playing time. He is a very decent bench player as he showed while playing for the Hornets. And for a very cheap contract, he would have been a bargain. Unfortunately there is no space for him in the Spurs squad now with the hunt for Oden happening as well.

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    Good pick up for Memphis. They are in desperate need of shooters. Memphis is one of the few teams that I have a lot of respect for with how they have built their team in a small market. The one move that was stupid was letting Lionel Hollins go. The guy is one of the best coaches in the business and has never gotten the respect he deserves.
    They had to. Their whole new front office, like the Spurs, is basing decisions on advanced stats. Hollins was like Art Howe in Moneyball, a non believer in what he didn't understand. There was too much of a disconnect.

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    They had to. Their whole new front office, like the Spurs, is basing decisions on advanced stats. Hollins was like Art Howe in Moneyball, a non believer in what he didn't understand. There was too much of a disconnect.
    I agree, except that Memphis seems to be more extreme compared to the spurs. I imagine if the spurs' FO were running the grizzlies, they'd probably make some trades except their big 3.

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    If the sign-and-trade option falls through, Blair may have to take a one-year deal, play well this season and then try to secure the multi-year deal he desires next summer. The Chicago Bulls have been linked to Blair this offseason and seem like a realistic landing spot for him since they’re a top-tier team that has minutes to offer. The L.A. Clippers have expressed interest in Blair, but only have a minimum deal and limited role to offer the young big man.
    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...medium=twitter

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    Considering the fact that he's going to miss 40 games next year, there's lots of players that can do better than 0 pt/0 reb/0 ast.
    Hence the reason I listed 4 players, but for some reason you cut off my quote listing just 1.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) tweeted at 10:25 AM on Fri, Jul 26, 2013:
    Y! Sources: Denver has reached agreement on a three-year extension with restricted free agent Timofey Mozgov. http://t.co/ccg5inXaBc
    (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/stat...82894362402816

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    Hence the reason I listed 4 players, but for some reason you cut off my quote listing just 1.
    He's a trollolololol

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