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We'd be over the cap, but under the luxury tax.
Dice was AWESOME against Dirk.
Disagree. Duncan plays center when he's playing with Diaw and Bonner and PF (high post) when he plays with Splitter and Blair. Defensively, he usually takes the less mobile of opponent's PF/C.
We'd be over the cap, but under the luxury tax.
In all seriousness, you need to be careful here. I'm surprised nobody has replied feeling like Lloyd Christmas.
It's just in hibernation. The Nets can't trade AK until December 15th, so on December 16th we should all hold our breath for a Bonner for AK swap to go down. If it doesn't happen it's because Pop and RC are stupid or something and love Bonner too much, because the Nets would definitely make that deal if the Spurs offered it.
the nets should take bonner he spreads the floor
just one of these days it'd be nice to log on to ST only to find out that blair & neal or bonner has been traded for ariza. guy can dream though
It's the NBA. It's the off-season.
Not sure I could name a player who isn't high on the Wiz.
Both Chris Webber and Josh Howard were at one time.
I would take that player.
I agree with most everything on your post but...
When he was drafted. He replaced Oberto and Thomas who were traded for RJ. The Spurs then used the MLE on Mcdyess. Blair only averaged about 18mpg in the 09-10 season. He came off the bench with with Bonner or McDyess.
McDyess-50 starts
Bonner-23 starts
I think you got the seasons confused. In his 1st season Blair only stated 23 games. The Spurs had 6 bigs Duncan, McDyess, Blair, Bonner, Ratliff (for about 2 months), and Mihammi (D League). After Duncan none of then averaged more than 19 mpg. Blair didn't play a big role but filled the PF-C as apart of committee.
The following season Blair started. That was indeed to eat up minutes for McDyess. The plan worked out fairly weel Blair was solid and McDyess was fresh for the post season.
He is flawed but he is a role player. Of course he has flaws. He can't defend and is the size of an average 2 guard. He has, however worked hard to overcome his shortcomings (pardon the expression). He added a floater to get off his shot in the paint over bigger players while receiving the ball in the P&R. He is athletic enough to maneuver in midair and avoid getting his shot blocked.
He also the rim to shield his layups. He jumper was better and actually knocked them down in games. He also converted on a career high in Free throw %. As is he is a valuable player to have and has earned minutes on a le contending team. On the Wiz he can carve out an Niche as a productive 8pt, 6 rpg type of guy in limited minutes off the bench (20 mpg or so) (he didn't just get drafted and was thrown out there like you stated).
The Spurs really hadn't had a solid core of bigs sense the Duncan, Rasho, Horry, Mohammad. After trading Rasho for Bonner, letting Mohammad walk to Detroit, and not resigning Horry after our 4th le in 07. We signed Elson and then traded him for Thomas. There was never a true need for a stocked big man corp. Our money went else where and with Duncan healthy we could count on him to eat up about a 3 of those minutes himself. It more or less was dictated on our opposition. We moved Rasho for Bonner to counter Dirk (sounds odds) we moved Elson for Thomas who was a more phyical big to matchup with Pau and Bynum. We moved Thomas and Oberto along with Bowen for a scoring wing to eliviate Manu's Duncan's scoring responsibility and give Parker help while he lead the team in scoring. Blar came in as a second rounder (after sliding because of after concerns about his knees. He earned minutes that were vacated and would have been filled else where had we not drafted him. We could have signed a couple of bigs on minimum deals instead. He valuable piece, averaging 7pts, and 7 rebounds in 18 mpg.
He has shown nice improvement over his career and if players like Reggie Evans can be in demand despite not having any offensive game whatsoever. Blair can have a solid career as an effective scorer and boarder. My initial argument was his value was about $3 million a season, that seems more than fair. If you take a look at PF/Cs who had similar P.E.R's over the first four seasons of his career, I'm confident that number is more than fair.
I think you're understating his value over the past four seasons. As a 20 minutes a game type of guy who could be penciled in for 80 games. Eating minutes for an older team is an necessity, being productive in those minutes is an added bonus that he provided. His lack of playoff experience isn't a really a con. He was meant to eat up minutes during the season, to keep older bigs fresh. Also playoff match-ups dictated certain adjustments.
He also hasn't sulked. He talked about losing his starting spot and was frustrated. He requested a trade after he fell out of the rotation (fairly common). He then dropped 30 lbs, worked on his mid range game and reported to camp in the best shape of his career. Pop later called him a true professional.
He knew were to be on offense, defense not so much. He compensated with using his quick hands that forces turnovers and plenty of deflections allowing others to get into the fast break. Washington need players to fill roles. They had plenty of guys who went for their own numbers at the sake of the teams success (Young, Blatche, Crawford) they are all gone. Okafor and Ariza are there for Defense and vet leadership. Nene is there for a post presence (even though he has only one, that quick spin baseline) they need a guy who knows his role and can produce within that role. He certainly has that experience with S.A.
Anyway, I'm sure we both can agree it would be nice to get a something in return to help the Spurs next season.
Thats pretty damn funny.playblair, just admit it:
You got nothing.
If I implied that he'd started that first game then I apologize. I realize that such things didn't really come to pass until year 2.
My point was that the main reason that he was even in the rotation was because the Spurs were critically short on bigs, having just moved two away. And McDyess, as good as he was, couldn't be counted on as a minutes eater. This made Blair more relevant than he might otherwise have been.
A valid point.
While I credited him with the floater in my above post, it is true that it is something hes added since college. However, I still stand that outside the addition of that floater I've seen basically no improvement or growth out of the guy. It just isn't there.
I never said he wasn't a competent post scorer. In fact, I absolutely credited him with that.
I'm calling bull here. Yes, hes made a few jumpers. In a similar fashion, Tim Duncan has drilled some 3's. But neither of those players can consistently do either.
65%. Seriously, your praising someone that shot 65% from the line...two years ago. By the way, his numbers went down again since then. 63% last season. Yea, I'm not buying what you're selling here either.
Probably. I've always said he'd do best on a bad team like the Wizards. And I have no doubt of his ability to score and rebound. It's just his total lack of ability to guard even a paper sack that concerns me the most.
PS: And please don't say that the Wizards aren't a bad team because they "will probably be the 8 Seed next year." They're in the East. The 7 and 8 seed are usually reserved for teams with losing records. It's not an accomplishment out East.
Agreed. And this shortfall created an opportunity for Blair to come in and play a lot of minutes. At least...regular season ones.
A fair assessment and a good comparison. But Reggie Evans is a better rebounder than Blair (he averaged over 16 RPG per 36M compared to Blair who was under 10). Although Blair definitely has a much more advanced offensive game in just about every way. Still, while Evans' defense isn't anything special, he still eclipses Blair. But if Blair could carve out an Evans kind of career he'd be well served.
Every GM worth their salt is going to be concerned over his knees. I understand they haven't been an issue to date, but it will always be concerning.
So the fact that, despite 36 playoff games over 4 seasons, the team has never seen fit to give a sizeable role in a playoff run isn't an issue? No, I think thats indicative of what he brings and doesn't bring to the table.
But again, I've always said that hes best served on a bad team. If playoffs don't matter then a team that won't make the playoffs, or at least, won't win many of those games, seems ideal.
So over 36 games the matchups dictated that he should be on the bench? It would seem that his utility is pretty limited then.
Well that just isn't true at all. It was pretty plain to see once he lost his starting job.
Granted. Hes done an okay job causing deflections. But gambling on steals typically isn't considered good defense.
Agreed. He could be a decent role player for them. I'm not saying he isn't an NBA player. I'm just saying that hes an incredibly limited role player that would be best served on a bad team. And he also isn't a guy you pay much more than the minimum for. He just isn't worth it considering his height and total defensive liabilities as well as ever-present knee concerns.
Absolutely. If someone wants to pay for him then more power to him. I just don't think hes worth it. And I also stand that the facts back me up as well. But, it's obviously not an exact science and open to interpretation. I just think yours isn't right.
23 pages of nothing
Yeah think these discussions r dead for now
In theory, Neal QO being withdrawn could trigger a Blair S&T. Spurs could have put the talks with Washington on hold while there were uncertainties around Neal.
And even if it's possible, it isn't the most likely scenario at all.
translate this ...............................
http://ask.fm/CelticsSpa/answer/54553849139
Basically the poster was asking if they would have been better off signing Blair (because he is younger and has more experience in the league) instead of Faverani. To which the other replied that only time will tell who is better, but Faverani is a 6'11" center and Blair is a 6'6" PF (which they have enough of).
Yep, let it go..... Done, period.23 pages of nothing
props...................
http://www.hoopsworld.com/bulls-clip...n-dejuan-blair
i'm crossing my fingers for blair+bonner for ariza. but... draft rights or a spare late 1st/2nd?
^ the clippers have been heavily interested in blair since the beginning of free agency ................ rumor on twitter is blair will sign with wizards (friend of blair)
A possibility would be that Spurs and Wizards have agreed in principle to two different S&T and which one will be done will depend if Spurs get or not Oden.
Another reason I wish the Oden wait would finalize.
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