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Be more specific...because giving Manu a new contract was good. Giving Manu a 2 year deal worth 14.5 million was bad.
Who knows? Maybe we'll get lucky and get a LOGICAL debate about this, rather than more whining.
Be more specific...because giving Manu a new contract was good. Giving Manu a 2 year deal worth 14.5 million was bad.
dam beat this to death
his play will determine it this year and next
Also, ducks is right. We'll see what Ginobili has left this season. If he plays like most of last year then...
Bad move. Why? It's obvious, he's done.
Good or bad? That's immaterial. It was necessary.
What's the alternative? Get rid of Manu?
i think thats the point. what's your net reaction
Would have been nice to negotiate more than not at all.
It kill Spurs chances to compete for a le next year...
Good and bad.
He's taken less before for us, so it all evened itself out in the end. Plus the fact that he was healthy all playoffs for us (though struggled at times) was big. Had he gotten injured again I highly doubt he gets the contract he did.
Yes, we go through this every month in here it's the new period!
What you said is 100% on. Lets wait and see.
Re-signing Manu was the right move, he is still a good player that helps Spurs.
$14.5M/2 years is too much money, he is overpaid.
Now, I don't really have an issue with Manu being overpaid as long as it doesn't hurt Spurs in other potential moves they can do. It's impossible for sure to say if Manu taking $1M or $2M less per year would have helped Spurs to improve more their team this summer but I'm strongly siding towards it has hurt Spurs.
Hopefully, Spurs could do one last move that could salvage a, as Manu would say, "so-so" offseason and make the Ginobili overpaying meaningless but it's a way remote hope.
I said before the deal came together that I thought the Spurs could have him for $4m-$5m. Under that premise, you could call it a bad deal. Obviously, how he plays under this new deal will eventually be the actual measure of that.
I didn't want to see Manu retire from the nba playing for another team. If it took 14.5 over 2 years to keep him a spur then I am okay with the contract.
It's a good deal because Manu is a Spur for life.
Not 5 not 6 not 7.......
His value to the team is hard to put a price on because of his popularity. Putting butts in seats is a real bargaining piece no matter how you cut it. Manu is also a major piece on the team as well. In the top five, four, three? He's earned his keep to be sure. Not as clutch as Manu of old, but neither was anyone else.
Stfu tro
Manu is DONE,he looked like he was moving underwater vs Miami
His athleticism is gone,I felt bad for him getting blown by on practically every first step and then watching him wildly try to strip the ball from the dude that was leaving him in the dust.
He'll fill the seats and keep the SA locals happy though and that is worth a lot to PATFO
The second unit next year w/o Neal is gonna go through some ugly shooting droughts against good teams.
Plus Pop needs to yank Manu when he's clearly not "got" it instead of hoping he'll come around and give some of the younger guys a shot @ more minutes.
Was he worthy of keeping? I could care less. TBH, I would of much rather used that $$$ on someone younger that is willing to come off the bench just like Manu and can hit a big shot when the team most needs it and his name is Jarrett Jack. Jarrett Jack will make roughly about the same amount of $$$ as Manu is with the Cavs. Yes I know that Jarrett Jacks is shorter and his PER is not as good as Manu’s but Jack is in his prime while Manu is more on the downhill side.
To those that keep bringing the loyalty BS as an argument, you’ll can go f*** yourselves because we haven’t won ever since Duncan has been out of his prime. Parker and Manu have been leading the team since 2007 so how many rings do they have to account for?
Coincidently the Spurs have done pretty well these past two years when Duncan seems to have turned back the clock. He lost weight which allowed him to improve on defense and regain a little bit of quickness that he used to have.
Good points. At the very most, Manu deserved to be paid $3.5M/per year or $7M/2 year which is about half of the amount that the FO paid him. If Manu would have taken that amount and if the FO would of traded or amnestied Matt Bonner, the Spurs could’ve signed a pretty good FA such as AK47/Jarrett Jack.
So much cap space was wasted on that washed up 36 year old SG and Matt Bonner. If the Spurs don’t make it back to the NBA finals and the holes (a SF or backup PG) that didn’t get patched during the offseason come back to haunt them then there is only one man to blame. His name is Manu Ginobili.
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Jarrett Jack would have been unpopular fast. He chucks and isn't really a playmaker. His midrange is good but he's not really our style. Without a definite point guard that can consistently take pressure, we need Manu.
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