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    Who say Manu deserves 3,5 mill per year? You? Then he does not deserve that. TD could earn 1 mill per year and we could try signing others (?), lol you're dumb.
    Yeah and nobody said that Manu is better than Duncan haha. He's seeing what he wants and not what is it
    You're the one that brought this nonsense on yourself. Don't even dare comparing Timmy to Manu.

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    If you can't understand then you're so dumb.
    LOLLLLLLLLLL. The worst season of TD was 2010-2011 so in THAT SEASON he earned 21 millons. Which means he earned a lot more than he deserved and only cut their pay after 2011-2012. And this also means that you're a dumb and not me .

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    LOLLLLLLLLLL. The worst season of TD was 2010-2011 so in THAT SEASON he earned 21 millons. Which means he earned a lot more than he deserved and only cut their pay after 2011-2012.
    As a TIM fan I thought he was done that season as well, however he got his extension what year? He earned it in 011 you said, 21 million! That was during the season and how would they know he would fall off during the 011 season when he got that contract extension? He had a good 09-10 season, 011 is the only one he hit the damn wall and he was playing on his contract he got before that dip. Manu got his extension after his horrible playoffs and looking done! And got paid pretty well I must add.

    Let me know when Tim got his extension that paid him 21 million that year?

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    LOLLLLLLLLLL. The worst season of TD was 2010-2011 so in THAT SEASON he earned 21 millons. Which means he earned a lot more than he deserved and only cut their pay after 2011-2012.
    now you're trashing Timmy at the cost of defending your lover boy. You're such a dumbass. I'm done arguing with re s.

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    As a TIM fan I thought he was done that season as well, however he got his extension what year? He earned it in 011 you said, 21 million! That was during the season and how would they know he would fall off during the 011 season when he got that contract extension? He had a good 09-10 season, 011 is the only one he hit the damn wall and he was playing on his contract he got before that dip. Manu got his extension after his horrible playoffs and looking done! And got paid pretty well I must add.

    Let me know when Tim got his extension that paid him 21 million that year?
    Same happens with Manu hey! How we would know he would fall off during this season? This was his worst season after his rookie season.

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    lol Jarret Jack

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    now you're trashing Timmy at the cost of defending your lover boy. You're such a dumbass. I'm done arguing with re s.
    I'm saying the same that Sean Cagney said up there. Nobody of us knew that Manu would fall of this season. And if TD improved this two years, Manu could improve too.

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    As a TIM fan I thought he was done that season as well, however he got his extension what year? He earned it in 011 you said, 21 million! That was during the season and how would they know he would fall off during the 011 season when he got that contract extension? He had a good 09-10 season, 011 is the only one he hit the damn wall and he was playing on his contract he got before that dip. Manu got his extension after his horrible playoffs and looking done! And got paid pretty well I must add.

    Let me know when Tim got his extension that paid him 21 million that year?
    TD should have sacrificed his salary after the 2010-2011 season but he did not because he got the extension in that year. And he finally did it in the 2012-2013. Well it is not a lot different than Manu situation. Manu sacrificed 50% of his salary after a very bad season.

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    TD should have sacrificed his salary after the 2010-2011 season but he did not because he got the extension in that year. And he finally did it in the 2012-2013. Well it is not a lot different than Manu situation. Manu sacrificed 50% of his salary after a very bad season.
    +1

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    TD should have sacrificed his salary after the 2010-2011 season but he did not because he got the extension in that year. And he finally did it in the 2012-2013. Well it is not a lot different than Manu situation. Manu sacrificed 50% of his salary after a very bad season.
    How can you cut your salary during the year or the playoffs? When did he get the extension to pay him 21 million a year? If so Manu should have sacraficed his salary pay last year during the year too! WHY NOT! Manu did sacrafice 50% yes, but Tim barely makes more than him now and he is 100% times better at this point.

    Tim was on a contract, MANUS contract was up, HUGE difference! NO?Manus contract was up and he got an extension, Tim took a paycut when his contract was up, which was not during the year mentioned! So that makes no sense at all what you guys are saying, who opts out of their contract to take less? HARDLY anyone.

    You two are making no sense at all.

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    They should have asked the Heat to pay a couple million of his contract. IT's only fair since he was their Finals MVP.

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    Manus contract was up and he got an extension, Tim took a paycut when his contract was up, which was not during the year mentioned! So that makes no sense at all what you guys are saying, who opts out of their contract to take less? HARDLY anyone. You two are making no sense at all.
    lol ya he took a paycut afta he optd in and players who want to win take less so dont give manu no sh*t for do'n no less wat td did... U have sum lookn to do to say whos not makn sense cuz a tru fan would kno dis!

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    How can you cut your salary during the year or the playoffs? When did he get the extension to pay him 21 million a year? If so Manu should have sacraficed his salary pay last year during the year too! WHY NOT! Manu did sacrafice 50% yes, but Tim barely makes more than him now and he is 100% times better at this point.

    Tim was on a contract, MANUS contract was up, HUGE difference! NO?

    Manus contract was up and he got an extension, Tim took a paycut when his contract was up, which was not during the year mentioned! So that makes no sense at all what you guys are saying, who opts out of their contract to take less? HARDLY anyone.

    You two are making no sense at all.
    I said it before but I will say it again. This the first bad season of Manu (and he earned a lot in it), TD had one bad season TOO (and he earned a lot in it). TD played well this two last years, why not thinking that Manu will improve? lol

    We will see if 7 millons per year contract is too high or not. For now, it is not.

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    The playoffs.

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    Manu can still recover. He needs to stop playing passive ball. I think the injuries have taken his aggression away. He feels like the team is good enough that he can just contribute by passing. It can work in the regular season but it killed us in the Finals. A guy who isn't shooting the ball is too easy to defend.

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    To bring back a Hall of Famer, one of the best international players ever and a living legend, is a great move. Money is not a problem in this case
    I like Manu, but it was. A 2 year $10 million dollar deal would have made it easier to nab a player like AK-47. Keeping him and then keeping him healthy is one thing (actually two) but him playing anywhere similar to the version he was during the 10-11 or the 11-12 seasons is anyone guess. If he can be the guy off the bench who can produce 11-14pts, 4 rpg and 4 asts in 20-24 mpg on good shooting percentages then he's worth it.

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    I don't think Kirilenko was ever coming here.

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    I think Manu has a good number of Game 5s left in him. Deal was too much but glad we still have him.

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    something close to 5m/yr is the right market value for the current Manu imho. Dude gets the extra 50% from the spurs as a loyalty bonus imho

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    I don't blame Manu for the deal.. this is on the Front Office and nothing can change that now. The biggest problem with the deal is that I don't think Manu will get better or stay in form consistently. It took Tim a few years to adjust his game to his diminished skills and it took a few more seasons for him to shed the weight and develop that 18 footer which isn't as consistent as it should be.

    Manu would have to start working on a mid range game more in case he stalls and can't beat his defender and work on his 3 ball because it was piss poor last season.

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    5 million on 2 yrs for 10 pts 5 rbs 5 ats per 20 min would been GREAT

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    It's definitely a bad deal. IIRC, there was an article posted here that said, based on advanced stats, Manu's play last year was only worth about 4.5 million/year. Factor in injuries(he'll miss at least 30 games next year) and decline due to age and we're overpaying a role player who will put up Gary Neal level production. Thank You Manu for the most disappointing offseason in the Tim Duncan era.

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    Manu can still recover
    No, he can't. Players with his style(slashers with an inconsistent jumper) don't get better with age.

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    whoever says paying Manu 14,5M was a good deal is an idiot. He can't even play half of the game and gets injured every year. I love Manu but the contract is ed up.

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    Have to agree Love the guy but he should have retired or taken vet min....If we had a decent backup PG his role would greatly be diminished.

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