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    @ Spurs homers getting defensive

    @ Spurs homers that think RC & FO can do no wrong

    @ Spurs homers that can't accept the fact that the Pacers had a better offseason than the Spurs


    @ Spurs homers ing at the OP for voicing his opinion

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    These forums can't go 1 offseason without whining and moaning about how "incompetent" our FO is... SMH.
    I wonder how SpursTalk will look once we actually begin rebuilding lol.

    Wouldn't be surprised to hear reports of basement dwellers wearing their cheese-stained Manu jerseys committing suicide.

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    Since they were no. 1 in overall defense last season, I would say a lot of them.
    Considering their bench played so few minutes, and generally sucked when they did play, are you intimating they had a lot to do with that rating? And besides, the bench you are referring to has been almost completely replaced by historically poor defenders.

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    OP wit tro badz

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    Didn't know they got Scola man they going to be beasting in the EAST.

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    I wonder how SpursTalk will look once we actually begin rebuilding lol.

    Wouldn't be surprised to hear reports of basement dwellers wearing their cheese-stained Manu jerseys committing suicide.
    (as long as nobody actually does it)

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    Indiana isn't that bad of a destination. They drew David West there recently too. With that and this year's additions, I think it's safe to say free agents are fine with playing there. They just didn't go there before because they sucked.

    Why people don't go to the Spurs. . .I'm not entirely sure but I'd guess being a small market team in the west while never "overpaying" by even a dime unless they're bringing someone back who isn't named Duncan or Parker doesn't help. I don't think small market west teams in general draw much of anybody to them unless they overpay. It's only the major market players like Dallas and LA who get everyone at market value or less.

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    I wonder how SpursTalk will look once we actually begin rebuilding lol.

    Wouldn't be surprised to hear reports of basement dwellers wearing their cheese-stained Manu jerseys committing suicide.
    Exactly. These people wouldn't know something to REALLY about if it bit them in the ass. The rebuild is when you'll see who the real Spurs fans are.

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    Exactly. These people wouldn't know something to REALLY about if it bit them in the ass. The rebuild is when you'll see who the real Spurs fans are.
    We really are all spoiled as spurs fans. Out of the 24 years that I have been following the spurs they have made the playoffs 23 of those years. That really is incredible. All spurs fans should feel lucky.

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    We were supposed to win a championship too when we traded for hwsnbn

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    We really are all spoiled as spurs fans. Out of the 24 years that I have been following the spurs they have made the playoffs 23 of those years. That really is incredible. All spurs fans should feel lucky.
    In 36 NBA seasons, the Spurs have only missed the playoffs FOUR TIMES. Over the Spurs NBA life, no one has made more PO appearances. No one. Their WORST stretch was 3 trips in 6 years. Think Sacto or Charlotte fans wouldn't for that six year run?

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    Outgoing: Neal, Blair, TMac, (basically AK47 )

    Incoming: Belinealli, Plendairgraph, ???

    Gimme some D-Mac (Austin Daye)!

    I'm ok with our offseason. Yes, it's the Spurs way but would you rather do it the Cuban way (no matter if that means trading 80% of the roster every year without thinking about some consistency or if it means breaking up a successful team just to get a shot at some big names that show you the middle finger afterwards)?

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    The apologists never cease to amaze. As if freetiago said anything that wasn't true.

    Let's face it: It's been a terrible off season. Despite having two modest needs and decent flexibility, they inexplicably failed to address either and downgraded in the role of Ginobili/inept backup PG insurance.

    Will the team still be a contender? Health willing, absolutely, but it won't be because of anything the front office has done, since they haven't done anything worth a damn since dumping Jefferson (I give them no credit for Diaw, for obvious reasons). It'll be because of the will of Duncan and Parker, Leonard's likely improvement and them being the highest IQ and arguably best coached team in the league.

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    The apologists never cease to amaze. As if freetiago said anything that wasn't true.

    Let's face it: It's been a terrible off season. Despite having two modest needs and decent flexibility, they inexplicably failed to address either and downgraded in the role of Ginobili/inept backup PG insurance.

    Will the team still be a contender? Health willing, absolutely, but it won't be because of anything the front office has done, since they haven't done anything worth a damn since dumping Jefferson (I give them no credit for Diaw, for obvious reasons). It'll be because of the will of Duncan and Parker, Leonard's likely improvement and them being the highest IQ and arguably best coached team in the league.
    This.

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    Will the team still be a contender? Health willing, absolutely, but it won't be because of anything the front office has done.....
    Absolutely right. I mean, the FO has nothing to do with the current composition of the team.

    smh......

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    I thought Indiana was having an awful offseason but Scola helps a little.

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    Absolutely right. I mean, the FO has nothing to do with the current composition of the team.

    smh......
    Congratulations. This is quite possibly the most egregious example of lack of reading comprehension I've ever seen (and that's saying something).

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    Congratulations. This is quite possibly the most egregious example of lack of reading comprehension I've ever seen (and that's saying something).
    Quit being coy. That much was implicit in your statement. You and the rest of these s want to hold the FO responsible for every misstep without so much as a whisper as to why your team is in the position it's in today. That's quite rich.

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    Quit being coy. That much was implicit in your statement. You and the rest of these s want to hold the FO responsible for every misstep without so much as a whisper as to why your team is in the position it's in today. That's quite rich.
    Had you read the next sentence, you'd know that's not at all what I meant. It couldn't have been a more ignorant statement on your part.

    You and the rest of the apologists want people to have no opinions on a message board and instead constantly pat the front office on the back for the 4 championships and sustained success this late into the Duncan era. Those of us who are appreciative, but not satisfied (not when the team is so close) with that are sick of the resting on their laurels/hoping to win another championship mentality and would have liked to have seen them do what the Pacers did, which was shore up their weaknesses for once. Why is that asking too much?

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    Had you read the next sentence, you'd know that's not at all what I meant. It couldn't have been a more ignorant statement on your part.
    Nah, it didn't change the context of your statement. You have have quite an extensive posting history to thank for that.

    You and the rest of the apologists want people to have no opinions on a message board and instead constantly pat the front office on the back for the 4 championships and sustained success this late into the Duncan era. Those of us who are appreciative, but not satisfied (not when the team is so close) with that are sick of the resting on their laurels/hoping to win another championship mentality and would have liked to have seen them do what the Pacers did, which was shore up their weaknesses for once. Why is that asking too much?
    Frankly it's not asking too much.......however, your expectations and statements don't match reality tbh. You're implying here that Buford et al didn't make any attempt (now or in the past) to make said improvements. I think that you're foolish for believing that.

    Look, I'd like to see the franchise win another couple as well. There's more at play here than simply matching salaries and pulling the trigger though. There's usually another party involved in these acquisitions no?

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    Glass full of bleach. Drink it already.
    Do you ever talk basketball you fat ? All you ever do on this site in talk people and tell them to "drink bleach" or suck off got posters like Obstructed View and lap up the of older members like Solid D/Ed Helicopter Jones/timvp/etc. if anyone makes a point about anything and theyre not on your approved list of forum gods then you talk them when in reality you're a ing dumb that quit on his team and then acted like a when you welshed on your promise to leave the forum. you dont post much anymore, but anytime you do, it's nothing but empty bandwidth.

    take your own advice and guzzle that bleach down got

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    The apologists never cease to amaze. As if freetiago said anything that wasn't true.
    Let's face it: It's been a terrible off season. Despite having two modest needs and decent flexibility, they inexplicably failed to address either and downgraded in the role of Ginobili/inept backup PG insurance.
    Will the team still be a contender? Health willing, absolutely, but it won't be because of anything the front office has done, since they haven't done anything worth a damn since dumping Jefferson (I give them no credit for Diaw, for obvious reasons). It'll be because of the will of Duncan and Parker, Leonard's likely improvement and them being the highest IQ and arguably best coached team in the league.
    Had you read the next sentence, you'd know that's not at all what I meant. It couldn't have been a more ignorant statement on your part.
    You and the rest of the apologists want people to have no opinions on a message board and instead constantly pat the front office on the back for the 4 championships and sustained success this late into the Duncan era. Those of us who are appreciative, but not satisfied (not when the team is so close) with that are sick of the resting on their laurels/hoping to win another championship mentality and would have liked to have seen them do what the Pacers did, which was shore up their weaknesses for once. Why is that asking too much?


    Good job. I've been labeled as a troll by some folks for having similar thoughts. I don't expect the FO to blowup the team or a championship every year but I do expect the FO to add a piece or two to help us get over the hump.

    I don't give a if we were 28 seconds away from winning it all because being that close is not a reason to not improve the team considering all the cap space that was wasted on resigning a washed up SG in Manu and retaining Matt Bonner. Being 28 seconds away is not a reason to overpay Manu, cause he wasn't going anywhere else he wouldn't last, or not wanting to get rid of Matt Bonner.

    The FO is never held accountable because Tim Duncan overrates the out of them.

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    Nah, it didn't change the context of your statement. You have have quite an extensive posting history to thank for that.
    You blatantly took it out of context. Unbeknownst to you, it is possible to critique something without suggesting it's poor or inept.

    Frankly it's not asking too much.......however, your expectations and statements don't match reality tbh. You're implying here that Buford et al didn't make any attempt (now or in the past) to make said improvements. I think that you're foolish for believing that.

    Look, I'd like to see the franchise win another couple as well. There's more at play here than simply matching salaries and pulling the trigger though. There's usually another party involved in these acquisitions no?
    I'm not at all implying that; you just made that up. Of course they did their due diligence to get done what they wanted to, just like every other team does in every sport. Too bad that's irrelevant, since this is a results oriented business and they didn't get the results they needed to this off season.

    Losers make excuses like that, while other contenders and pseudo ones almost always find ways to get done what they want. The Pacers are a perfect example of that. Next to no flexibility, nor assets (other than a late 1st), yet they've managed to re-build their bench.

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    The FO is never held accountable because Tim Duncan overrates the out of them.

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    Pacers go 7 games and use the offseason to get better on paper. Spurs go 7 games and use the offseason to . . . well . . . save money, I guess? I think as far as % of the cap, the Spurs salaries this next year will be about the lowest in what, 10 years? Haven't done the math yet, but the team is really doing well as far as monies go. They get the full 7 games in the finals for all that revenue, but don't have to spend any money on rings or a parade and all the associated costs. Then they don't buy out Bonner, and then refuse to amnesty him. And draft a player in the first that they won't have to pay for awhile.

    They get an Italian Neal, and a scrub from the Pacers who wasn't good enough to beat out Mahinmi or Hansborough for steady playing time. They had options, and they had all their future picks to put protections on for trade, they just couldn't/wouldn't do anything other than the average of keeping the same roster.

    Good for Indiana. It might not work out because it's all just on paper, but they weren't content to just cross their fingers and hope that next time it will be different just because and pretend no one else was going to get better either.

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