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The real problem is that our main guys are old and other teams are young. Miami, OKC, Houston, Indiana,... players can play a whole game if the game is important, while on the other side a guy with 7M a year can't even play 25 minutes.
Reggie Jackson is much better than CoJo at this time tbh. Could change but we'll see.
The real problem is that our main guys are old and other teams are young. Miami, OKC, Houston, Indiana,... players can play a whole game if the game is important, while on the other side a guy with 7M a year can't even play 25 minutes.
The only decision this team makes that ever pisses me off is keeping Matt Bonner. Something just isn't right about it. It makes no ing sense.
He has his uses and after he showed up in the playoffs this past season I have no more complaints. Now if they refused to use him in a trade for a player for a needed position (ie an Ariza or a similar player) then I'd have an issue.
We are also not an iso team like OKC. They can just give the ball to Durant or Westbrook and get the out of the way. The Spurs are totally dependent on ball movement and pick and roll, which necessitates a ball handler that makes good decisions and can pass on the court at all times.
@ some Spurs homer trying the justify the incompetent offseason by the FO. CoJo is a work in progress but he's not better than Cole or Chalmers yet. CoJo needs to develop a consistent three-point shot and some better finishing moves at the rim which are things that Reggie Jackson, Norris Cole, and Mario Chalmers can already do.
How about you give RC a call so that he can be blessed by your never-ending knowledge, O knowledgable one!
I’m just having a fun time reading all the absurd input given by the Spurs homers.
You're spot on. I can see the apologists and the those who worship timvp now, when they're getting away with Joseph against run of the mill regular season compe ion and his stats look decent enough . . . but that's not what it's about. You can plug in just about any minimal backup PG and health willing, this team will still thrive in the regular season, because they're a machine and more than any other team, you need the time that the playoffs afford to prepare for them.
It's not just the Thunder/Heat, either. It's the Clippers, Rockets, Grizzlies and Warriors, too. All have PG's who are excellent on ball defenders, in particular Beverley and Douglas. It's difficult to imagine him not struggling mightily against them.
I'd love to be wrong in this case, not just for the obvious, but because I like Joseph. I just don't think he times well with this team.
"Absurd input" as in us suggesting that the FO just might know what it's doing better than a random Internet user such as yourself?
Are we really interested in Mo Williams? Anybody else heard much?
And before 2011-2012, the biggest needs on the team were starting two-guard and a small-forward to replace Jefferson...
Hum? they made moves at that time because they had to, there was a sense of desperation, TP saying they were done as contenders and all so they had no choice.
Now for some reason they are just happy to stay pat.
They didn't. They apparently tried (and failed) to get every free-agent small-forward available that off-season. The plan, apparently, was to amnesty Jefferson and use the full MLE to bring in someone to start instead of relying on an unproven Leonard. There was also a lot of angst (and excitement) over Anderson getting the nod next to Parker. When he sucked it up to begin the season, a lot of people panicked. They wanted to bring in a "legitimate" starter at the two, instead of leaving in an unproven Green.
Turns out, Green and Leonard stepped up big time and locked down their spots. Unproven Splitter started next to Duncan and together with the New Two at the wings, he brought the Spurs' defense back to its glory days. The Spurs are pretty much at that same stage with Joseph. Pop needs to embrace him instead of trying to upgrade from him. The window is open because of the youth that's come into the team, not because of some older free agent Buford brought in.
And they still were within a game of the Finals victory last year with needs to be addressed! I know some teams got better but the Spurs did not get worse! I think Belli might be a player and others will get better. The only thing that worries me is Tim, will he come back down to earth or have another year? Parker hopefully healthy and Manu hopefully pulls a TIM and rejuvinates himself in some ways. Kawhi should be getting better and will Joseph STEP UP into that backup role with Neal gone? All questions, wait for the anwers.
Curry was something like 13/14 with Joseph guarding him... He had an underwhelming PO run and an underwhelming summer league... And you don't talk about Diaw and Sjax but you seem obsessed with young players for some reason...
Also the Splitter part is laughable when you know how little he did in the POs so far...
Seeing as the Spurs got better when Splitter replaced Diaw in the starting lineup and that Jack tried to hold the team back, I didn't think it was necessary for me to say I don't consider them to be as important as Green, Leonard and Splitter. I love what Diaw has brought to the team, and he's certainly was a big help, but there's a reason most people consider him expendable. Jack's greatest contribution is that he wasn't Jefferson. If Pop had put him in the starting lineup over Leonard two years ago, the Spurs would not have made it to the WCF.
Also, the idea that starting Splitter wasn't a big reason for the Spurs' defensive resurgence is weak, in my opinion. He had a DRtg of 100 in the regular season. That's outstanding. And before you talk about his playoff performance, his DRtg was still only 101. Even in the Finals, he was great on defense. I understand why you don't like him on offense (even though he was one of the best players in the league by ORtg) -- especially after The Block -- but to try to take away what he does on defense is completely wrong.
I'm just saying that :
- they made moves at the time to address the needs of the team, even calling Green's UNC coach showed that they saw something in him; there's no backup SF bar none of the roster right now so there's not even a project and backup PG is extremely shaky, Cojo might end up being serviceable but right now he's clearly below average...
- SJax and Diaw did 100 times as much as Splitter when it comes to the last two deep runs and they came from moves done in that timeframe like Kawhi, as opposed to zero move this summer
Splitter could have played better overall but his defense was a huge reason we got to the Finals.
We don't hate CoJo. We just think that he is not the answer to the hole of the team's roster, that being backup SF and another playmaker.
You could blame the FO but probably with another reason and not the reason you provided. Blame them for having not enough money to lure a good FA or you could blame Manu and Splitter's agent for demanding big contract. Or you could directly blame Manu and Splitter for that. But you can't blame the FO for staying pat because they didn't
IMHO with a full season under his belt backing up Tony, Cojo should solve our back up PG problem. He already has the defense, and shows signs of having the offense.
So all they need is a competent SF, especially if they get lucky enough to get Oden. They would have to open up another roster spot to do both which means either trading, dropping, or amnestying someone.
No one thought Green was going to be a factor in 2011-2012. In fact, the biggest use most posters saw in him was that his contract was not guaranteed. A lot of people didn't think he was going to survive the preseason. He was definitely seen as farther away from contributing than Joseph is now. Even Leonard seemed like a project who'd be good at defense and rebounds but who was a year or two from being a contributor. The Spurs have plenty of youngish players who could potentially make similar impacts this upcoming season.
Also, it's just not true that Jack did anything to open the Spurs' window in 2012 (and especially 2013). He only played well in one series -- really only two games -- and none of his good performances led to any victories. The Spurs made it to the 2012 WCF because of Green's defense on Paul and Leonard's hustle. Obviously, Duncan was the fundamental reason, but he alone was not going to get it done. Even if you hate Splitter, you can't pretend like Splitter wasn't key in closing out the Warriors and sweeping the Grizzlies. Had Splitter been injured, the Spurs would not have made it to the Finals.
Diaw is obviously important, but even he was never as indispensable as Splitter. Really, his biggest contribution is giving the Spurs a legitimate third big so Splitter can start. I like Boris a lot to, but he simply isn't as important against most teams. Great third big, but not a great second big by any means.
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