Kawhi 3rd most valued SF in NBA

[Buddy Mignon]

Lebron
Gay
Melo
Granger
George
Pierce
Deng
Durant
Barnes
and many many many other small forwards are more valuable than this clutch time free throw missing scrub.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

What a load of horse . If he works extremely hard his ceiling will be that of Ariza. I'm never wrong on these things.

He's already better than Ariza. Better defender, better scorer, shoots a higher percentage from the floor, from 3, from the line. Leonard's the better rebounder, gets more steals, has better playoff numbers across the board. If Leonard can improve offensively he is going to be very, very good. Maybe not a franchise player, but certainly a #2 or #3 option on a championship caliber team. The Ariza comparison isn't even valid at this point. Leonard left Ariza in the dust somewhere in the playoffs this year.

[Spursfanfromafar]

He's already better than Ariza. Better defender, better scorer, shoots a higher percentage from the floor, from 3, from the line. Leonard's the better rebounder, gets more steals, has better playoff numbers across the board. If Leonard can improve offensively he is going to be very, very good. Maybe not a franchise player, but certainly a #2 or #3 option on a championship caliber team. The Ariza comparison isn't even valid at this point. Leonard left Ariza in the dust somewhere in the playoffs this year.

Fully agree. Actually, I think Kawhi Leonard was better than Trevor Ariza the moment he hit the NBA floor.

[TXstbobcat]

Leonard's ceiling is a lot higher than Ariza's.

[Buddy Mignon]

He's already better than Ariza. Better defender, better scorer, shoots a higher percentage from the floor, from 3, from the line. Leonard's the better rebounder, gets more steals, has better playoff numbers across the board. If Leonard can improve offensively he is going to be very, very good. Maybe not a franchise player, but certainly a #2 or #3 option on a championship caliber team. The Ariza comparison isn't even valid at this point. Leonard left Ariza in the dust somewhere in the playoffs this year.

Leonard is a choking scrub. Ariza is a clutch champion. Keep your stats... I have video to prove my point.

[TrainOfThought5]

Wat tf is football manager

[therealtruth]

Ariza was pretty good under PJ. He hit something like 50% from 3 in the playoffs.

[SupremeGuy]

Showing up in the Finals, one missed FT aside, upped his stock.

[Rogue]

Hey, you play football manager? Nice . Can't wait for '14

No I get what your saying concerning the rating system for players in FM vs those in console games. It's unparalleled. So much research! advanced stats, league compe ion levels ect.

tbh FM is becoming more and more like a professional tool for those soccer coaches and scouts imho (Redknapp uses FM as his primary scouting system, for example). FM's accessment of players' ability is deep and unbiased, and its data base is so huge that it includes almost every registered soccer play in the world, maybe except Japan because FM doesn't have the copyright to the J-league.

But it's no longer any fun to play that game when you sit at the computer for the whole day only to run half a season, 's too slow to be entertaining imho. Therefore I'd rather play CM 01/02 with up-to-date database more often than not. only play FM when a blockbuster trade takes place (like Neymar to Barcelona) so I can test the new squad on FM, as CM doesn't update its database on almost a daily basis like FM. CM only releases a new database when the transfer window is closed so it's like only 2 updates each year.

[Agloco]

What a load of horse . If he works extremely hard his ceiling will be that of Ariza. I'm never wrong on these things.

Lakaluva with the bads. Per par.

[Kingsly Alexander]

tbh FM is becoming more and more like a professional tool for those soccer coaches and scouts imho (Redknapp uses FM as his primary scouting system, for example). FM's accessment of players' ability is deep and unbiased, and its data base is so huge that it includes almost every registered soccer play in the world, maybe except Japan because FM doesn't have the copyright to the J-league.

But it's no longer any fun to play that game when you sit at the computer for the whole day only to run half a season, 's too slow to be entertaining imho. Therefore I'd rather play CM 01/02 with up-to-date database more often than not. only play FM when a blockbuster trade takes place (like Neymar to Barcelona) so I can test the new squad on FM, as CM doesn't update its database on almost a daily basis like FM. CM only releases a new database when the transfer window is closed so it's like only 2 updates each year.

Which is stupid because its through SEGA. I think PSE has a long term lockdown on anything Japanese football associated. But u can get around it if you download mods.

I get ur point sorta concerning CM, but, FM just seems to get better in game play every year and the fact that their scouting system is so deep is part of the allure to me. U can always customize the database to as small a size u want if it's lowing ur comp down.

Lol at the image of rednapp playing FM. its a great casual way to for clubs to scout players, no doubt I'm sure