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Sucks but doesn't hurt San Antonio at all. Next!
Sucks but doesn't hurt San Antonio at all. Next!
Freaking Splitter could own Oden.
What a great offseason this has been
Duncan finna go HAM on dis
Great offseason.
the Heat
I'm beginning to hate the Heat more than I ever hated the Lakers and Mavs combined!
now watch greg oden dominate and live up to his number 1 drafted overall expectations
Part of this falls on the FO's inability to sell San Antonio as a place free agents want to be. The rest of it is mismanagement of cap funds and this non-stop obsession of finding "lightning in a bottle" overseas unproven talent as opposed to signing experienced veterans willing to take less to play for a contender.
I don't think the Spurs were half as interested in Oden as the media made it sound. RC has a lot of good qualities, but free agency isn't one of them.
Last edited by Hoops Czar; 08-02-2013 at 08:31 PM.
True, I'm convinced RC is terrible at free agency!
So if Oden remains injury free and just half way lives up to his potential, how do the Spurs defeat the Heat now?
This basically proves he had no intentions of going anywhere but Miami. He would have been the third center in SA.
I agree with the last part, and I've been saying that for weeks.
But signing Oden is the very definition of trying to catch lightening in a bottle. Even factoring in Oden's supposedly high ceiling, the expected rate of return on him is lower (probably significantly) than it is for even Baynes. In general, Burford has played this off-season very conservatively, choosing an established vet like Belinelli over trying to move around players to bring in Evans or Jennings.
My feelings on ring-chasing vets on the Spurs are pretty well do ented. But independent of that, I am wondering: Where there any Battiers or Allen's on the market this season? Maybe Kirilenko, but I'm honestly drawing a blank on cheap vet free agents that were snapped up by other contenders. And please don't try to throw Mike Miller in there.
FAs know that they can't dictate to the Spurs (i.e., Pop). They're just one of the guys. That's scary to some.
You're giving up a lot to come to the Spurs -- your last refuge as an NBA star, your security blanket.
He still won't be as good as Duncan if the Spurs make it back to the Finals. Playing him will probably mean the Heat go big with Bosh at the four. If that's the case, the Spurs have the advantage still. If Oden were to just come off the bench, then he would probably be PnR'd to death.
AK, at his current level, is still a better player than that TOSB wearing the #20 jersey for the Spurs.
We may not be able to in the foreseeable future. If he lives up to his potential the Heat will be an even more difficult team to beat. They buy their talent but maybe Oden and Wade will spend more time in suits with knee issues than on the court. We would have to pickup another legit playmaker or they will have to injured if we are to beat them with a descent Oden
Not like this was a surprise. Everyone knew he was going to pick Miami where he can hope to ride James coattails to another possible championship. If he gets through the whole 82 game season without injury, then it will be an absolute miracle. Not like we needed Oden. We are not hurting at the 5 and Baynes offers adequate insurance should Splitter go down. I would actually venture to say Baynes will be more productive this year than Oden.
Just read that Oden might not be ready for the season opener. Dude has been rehabbing for over a year and is still not ready. Hasnt even played 5 on 5. His friend even said he will be lucky to be half the player he used to be. I'm more upset that the Spurs couldn't land a FA target than the fact it was Oden. Its the premise that after Duncan the only way we will get back to being a contender is by drafting great and getting lucky in the draft because we sure as not going to attract FAs with RC's passive approach.
Anyone think if TD decided to reach out to some of these FA's personally it might make a difference? I mean I respect him for not doing it, and I know that's not his thing. When he was on the fence about going to Orlando, I'm sure D-Rob & Pop were factors in his decision to stay. And again we've done OK for ourselves without needing our star player to help recruit other guys. But just makes you wonder. I hear LeBron was texting Oden about it, and it just made me think.
And I obviously have no clue on the selling points of Pop & RC to some of these guys. But it seems to be a players league now, and guys might respond better hearing from their peers
I think Oden's ceiling is much higher than Baynes. He hasn't shown much yet and if players like him and pendergragh still need a year or two of development, then the Spurs have pretty much screwed the pooch this off season. Relying on players who have never been relied on before is a pretty risky proposition when the post season arrives.
The Spurs should be making a push to sign Mo Williams though, he's the an hesis of the type of player Buford normally goes after. CoJo just hasn't shown enough consistency to be the full time backup to TP.
We disagree on Joseph. No reason to go down that hallway again, so we'll just leave it at that.
Oden does have a higher ceiling than Baynes. But because the odds on him reaching his ceiling are so low, his expected rate of return is lower. It's like gambling between a 100-percent chance to make 5 dollars or a one-percent chance to make 400 dollars.
I mean, what else is there to say. Come join us, we're a team that's at most 2-3 years out from a rebuild and our best players are pushing 40.
Yes, they made the finals, but there's only so much that can be sold at this point in the Tim/Tony/Manu era. Earlier on in the era the big three were all being paid more, which precluded throwing around many huge contracts to lucrative FAs (Richard Jefferson being the recent notable exception). Now they're being paid less, but their careers are close to over so SA is a less attractive destination from a talent standpoint.
There are 30 teams in the league and all of those teams are constantly evaluating talent and looking to bring in the best players. A few franchises have the ability to go way over the cap, but most don't have that ability. Money talks.
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