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Let's see a cite for the 2T figure and the associated $100B increases in vet care.
the official MIC budget "national defense" excludes the $2T+ costs, to be increaed by $100Bs in vet care, of the Repugs' two phony wars, which were financed by increasing the national debt.
Let's see a cite for the 2T figure and the associated $100B increases in vet care.
This is what a cite looks like:
"Potential Costs to Treat All VA Enrollees
Under Scenario 1, CBO estimates that total enrollment would grow from 8.0 million in 2009 to more than 8.8 million by 2016—an increase of about 10 percent—but would edge down to 8.7 million in 2020. The resources required to treat all enrolled veterans would be about $69 billion in 2020, nearly 45 percent higher than the $48 billion that has been provided for 2010.
Under Scenario 2, enrollment would be 620,000 higher in 2020 than in Scenario 1, with 340,000 new enrollees resulting from VA’s further relaxation of the restrictions on enrollment and 280,000 from the higher troop deployments. The resources required to treat all enrolled veterans would reach nearly $85 billion in 2020, or 22 percent more than under Scenario 1 and about 75 percent more than the amount provided for 2010."
http://www.cbo.gov/publication/21773
legalize the herb and all of our problems will go *poof*
My favorite that I tried was the old Blanco ipa. I was curious, though, where do you get your music? Is it an xm station or a play list. Every song was a good song. I kept thinking to myself that I hadn't heard these great songs in years.Thanks - I just realized you guys had the GTG this past weekend. Unfortunately I was out of town at a speaking engagement. Glad you had a good time and no one killed anyone else!
It's the commercial version of Pandora. We created a handful of custom stations for us, not sure which one was playing Sunday but glad you dug it!
Yeah, that's what I thought.
As the U.S. presence in Iraq and Afghanistan winds down, a recent report by Harvard Kennedy School lecturer Linda J. Bilmes ’80 predicts that the aggregate cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will fall between $4 and $6 trillion
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/4/5/report_cost_of_war/
Cost of war at least $3.7 trillion and counting
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...75S25320110629
etc, etc, etc.
We've already discussed your failure with effective rates.
Neither of those cites support your asinine stance that these charges are off the books. They've been appropriated since they began to be incurred over a decade ago. These figures don't pop into existance as an invoice, boutons. They've been budgeted and appropriated as needed, just like the VA costs.
they've been financed with increased debt (bond sales), not with raising taxes, the usual way a country finances a war.
We returned to the Treasury calculator and found that during Bush’s fiscal years, public debt rose from $3.3 trillion to $7.6 trillion -- up 130 percent, clearly more than double.
Also, we asked Sahr whether he agreed that debt doubled under Bush.
Adjusted for inflation, he said, public debt did not double, though it came close.
Sahr produced a spreadsheet for us with fiscal year-end debt numbers from the federal Office of Management and Budget. Among the results: As with the Treasury calculator, 2001-2009 public debt in non-inflation-adjusted dollars went up 130 percent. Adjusted for inflation (to 2011 dollars), though, the increase was 88 percent.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...d-under-georg/
That's not my argument, strawman.
You plainly stated that these wars were paid for off the books. You've yet to substantiate that.
War bonds say "Hi!".
1) I never said effective rates.
2) You don't know what effective tax rates are anyway.
they were off the Defense budget
Are you seriously suggesting that the military, while in the process of fighting a war, is not going to adjust their budget(s) for that war?
omfg....
It's been part of the budget since 2010.
Prior to that it was handled by appropriations, however, those were somewhere in the neighborhood of 188B outside of a budget of 518B. Hardly off the books since it's appropriated by Congress, labled as military expenditures and accounted for by the CBO and consequently, the justfacts analysis.
Looking at this a little further: We don't fund well. Shocking, I know. There were budgets in 06,07 and 08 that did include expenditures, so the appropriations were supplemental. Not off the books at all.
So you wanted to outright lie. OK.
Of course I do. Don't get salty because your lie was exposed.2) You don't know what effective tax rates are anyway.
You were wrong whatever you were trying to lie about.
You interrupted my monlogue
Show me then. Oh, and show your work and cite your sources!
What, you didn't read the links that were already spoon fed to you? Or are you just pretending they never happened?
Typical.
And pretty pathetic.
So you don't know what you're talking about. Got it.
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