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    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knick...ekVaBdv59mc8gN

    Memphis and San Antonio were also courting Udrih
    Spurs have been linked with Mo Williams, Bobby Brown and now Udrih. It's possible they are indeed looking at adding a PG.

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    Spurs have been linked with Mo Williams, Bobby Brown and now Udrih. It's possible they are indeed looking at adding a PG.

    8 guards? This has to be one of the most confusing off seasons ever!
    I seriously doubt he would want to come back here after what happened last time.

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    it's like the thing with 7 guards wasn't enough, we need 5 PG's on the team. I don't know, do the Spurs intend to trade a lot of guards for a SF or the're just really dumb and want to play really, really small.

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    Beno Udrih will sign a one-year deal with the Knicks according to a league source.

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    it's like the thing with 7 guards wasn't enough, we need 5 PG's on the team. I don't know, do the Spurs intend to trade a lot of guards for a SF or the're just really dumb and want to play really, really small.

    I think it's plain that they aren't dumb, but maybe they are in the Twilight Zone or something. This is really befuddling!

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    Marc Stein@ESPNSteinLine59s
    Udrih was down to Knicks and Grizz and set up face-to-face meetings with both teams this week. But sources say he chose Knicks last night

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    Beno Udrih will sign a one-year deal with the Knicks according to a league source.
    I knew he wouldn't want to come back here.

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    wow, the Knicks had to guarantee him at least 20 minutes a night if he gonna get just 1,2 millions. I am surprised he didn't go for the money this time.

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    If Spurs aren't sold on Joseph, don't see Mills as more than a 3rd stringer and have decided to play De Colo at the SG spot, looking for a PG kinda makes sense. It will create a number issue so it would be a good idea to trade away some of the guards if they add another PG.

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    Considering the moves SA has made, they have to be sold on Joseph.

    And as a much as people hate it, we will see Manu running the 2nd unit again this season.

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    Perfect! Goodbye any chance at a championship! Thanks RC

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    Lol the Spurs didn't want Beno back.

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    Beasley + Psychiatrist > Kirilenko

    It would have to be a full time shrink, though. I'd take $100,000 to tell him that he's not the only person on the planet. , I'd pay to do it.

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    Don't really see the lack of a backup SF as too big a problem unless Leonard gets injured. If they can't find find a suitable backup between now and the start of the season, I can see the spurs using Bertrans injury to leverage a cheap longterm deal now. They can control his rehab and have him playing at Toros by years end. If they need to make a move the spurs have at least 3 expirings that can be moved at the deadline of a peice.

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    Even if Bertans comes back healthy from his knee injury, that is still a lot of risk on a player who has never played a minute of NBA basketball to be your back up SF.

    Also a big risk hoping you find a legit SF during trade deadline.

    Having 2 SFs is vital in today's small ball line ups.

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    ^ Matchup-wise I don't know how "vital" it really is unless the Spurs are playing one of the few teams in the league that have a premier SF like Durant or James. Most likely if the other team is playing "small ball" they are playing an undersized SG at the 3 anyway (see, GSW lineup of Jack, Curry, Thompson, and Barnes last year). Come to think of it, looking at the chief rivals in the West I cant recall a team that plays essentially two SF's at the 3 & 4 at the same time (could be wrong). The Pacers in the East will have a chance with George and Granger this coming year I suppose.

    What it does mean is that Leonard will have to play more minutes, but he was probably already going to do that including time at the stretch 4. The "vitality" of having another SF has more to do with Leonard getting injured than the Spurs being outmatched. So if they can't get someone by the time season starts, why not use the last spot to bring Bertans along? First 2 years of his deal will most likely be un/partially guaranteed anyway, so if he's terrible he can be waived. Then during the season depending on need a small trade involving Bonner's deal for a SF/PF tweener like Jeberko could be made.

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    ^ Matchup-wise I don't know how "vital" it really is unless the Spurs are playing one of the few teams in the league that have a premier SF like Durant or James. Most likely if the other team is playing "small ball" they are playing an undersized SG at the 3 anyway (see, GSW lineup of Jack, Curry, Thompson, and Barnes last year). Come to think of it, looking at the chief rivals in the West I cant recall a team that plays essentially two SF's at the 3 & 4 at the same time (could be wrong). The Pacers in the East will have a chance with George and Granger this coming year I suppose.

    What it does mean is that Leonard will have to play more minutes, but he was probably already going to do that including time at the stretch 4. The "vitality" of having another SF has more to do with Leonard getting injured than the Spurs being outmatched. So if they can't get someone by the time season starts, why not use the last spot to bring Bertans along? First 2 years of his deal will most likely be un/partially guaranteed anyway, so if he's terrible he can be waived. Then during the season depending on need a small trade involving Bonner's deal for a SF/PF tweener like Jeberko could be made.

    Miami plays James at the 3 and Battier at the 4. That line up was probably the most effective against the Spurs. We didn't have a great answer for guarding Battier on the perimeter. Now Battier was pretty bad from the three point line, but he was effective the last two games of the series. Can Manu guard Battier? Sure, for a stretch, but that's extra size to deal with in a small ball matchup.

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    Miami plays James at the 3 and Battier at the 4. That line up was probably the most effective against the Spurs. We didn't have a great answer for guarding Battier on the perimeter. Now Battier was pretty bad from the three point line, but he was effective the last two games of the series. Can Manu guard Battier? Sure, for a stretch, but that's extra size to deal with in a small ball matchup.
    Speed and quickness are not things I associate with Battier. Offensively, I'm not concerned about Battier being anything more than a spot up shooter at this point.

    Sidebar, dude just got hot at the right time. He was having a horrible playoffs shooting from the field until the last few games, which of course is when he decided to show up...

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    The trade deadline would be the last opportunity to use Bonner's expiring contract as a bargaining chip. With Duncan, Splitter, Diaw, Baynes, Pendergraph, I think our big man rotation is fine. We went through the entire playoffs without a true backup SF and we did just fine imo. Stay the course and see how early Bertans would be available, then bring him over. He probably wouldn't be in the playoff rotation, but it would be good to get his feet wet before the start of next season.

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    Why hasn't anyone thought of a bargain bin type player (DeQuan Jones, Lance Thomas, Luke Babbitt, Cartier Martin [probably best available] or Terrence Williams) or a veteran with noticeable flaws in their game (Ronnie Brewer [my pick], Marquis Daniels or Mikael Gelabale)? They'll definitely need someone for when teams inevitably go small to take our best advantage (see '12 WCF vs. Oklahoma City and '13 Finals vs. Miami) away.

    The trade deadline would be the last opportunity to use Bonner's expiring contract as a bargaining chip. With Duncan, Splitter, Diaw, Baynes, Pendergraph, I think our big man rotation is fine. We went through the entire playoffs without a true backup SF and we did just fine imo. Stay the course and see how early Bertans would be available, then bring him over. He probably wouldn't be in the playoff rotation, but it would be good to get his feet wet before the start of next season.
    They shouldn't give up their last roster spot to an inexperienced player coming off a serious knee injury that wouldn't crack the rotation anyway. I don't know if you noticed but the Spurs lack of size, and to a certain extent athleticism, out on the perimeter was a huge contributing factor to the last two playoff exits. Spurs need to find someone that could contribute if another player goes down and is willing to take a bench role while learning the system. Some more youth and athleticism would be a huge bonus too.
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    Isn't Pietrus still available. Very solid player imo

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    Isn't Pietrus still available. Very solid player imo
    Pietrus was oft-injured last season in Toronto and his best days are behind him. If he still has some athleticism left, yes, if he's too broken down to aid against athletic teams (Miami, Oklahoma City and Golden State), then no. I'd like either Cartier Martin or Ronnie Brewer out of the available crop.

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    Isn't Pietrus still available. Very solid player imo
    Ehh... he's really declined a lot the last few seasons.

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    + Trust Free agent Anthony Tolliver told me Lakers have entered mix as possible team for him & he visited Charlotte Monday
    Tolliver said the Lakers recently called his agent, Larry Fox, to express interest. He said talks are still preliminary but he would have definite interest if the Lakers turn out to be a serious option.

    “Obviously, to have a chance to play for a franchise like that, you’d have to think long and hard about that,’’ the forward told FOX Sports Florida.

    While he waits to learn more about the Lakers' situation, other teams on Tolliver’s list are Charlotte, Utah and Chicago. Tolliver said the Bobcats have made a contract offer (for the minimum) and he visited Charlotte last Monday.

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    Pietrus was oft-injured last season in Toronto and his best days are behind him. If he still has some athleticism left, yes, if he's too broken down to aid against athletic teams (Miami, Oklahoma City and Golden State), then no. I'd like either Cartier Martin or Ronnie Brewer out of the available crop.
    Ooh Brewer would be nice.

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