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    what's really not "simplistic" about effective banning of abortions and not providing contraception to poor women is what the pro-lifers propose to do with all the LIVES of unwanted babies.

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    Repugs, bubbas, right-wingers don't need no facts or numbers, they got their ignorant, stupid, sociopathic, -the-47% ideology.
    boutons his non-post, yet again!




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    TB ridiculing himself

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    not really. nice try tho.

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    Does the government have to provide free abortions and free birth control pills to every woman? Rich women, senior citizens, and sterile women?

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    Virginia’s Right-Wing ‘Crisis Pregnancy Centers’ Caught On Tape Lying To Women

    An new undercover investigation into Virginia’s right-wing “crisis pregnancy centers” (CPCs) exposes the blatant misinformation about women’s health, as well as the shame-based messages surrounding sexuality, that their employees typically impart to patients. NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia — which has been working for years to expose the dozens of CPCs in the state — caught the lies on tape and released their findings on Wednesday.

    NARAL recorded a counseling session between a young woman and a CPC employee. The woman received false information about the risks of hormonal birth control, misleading explanations about how contraception works, and judgmental messages about her decision to be sexually active before getting married. During the conversation, the CPC counselor repeatedly suggested that her organization was more trustworthy than the staff at abortion clinics, since abortion providers are ultimately trying to convince their patients to spend money at the clinic. “I’m not lying to you, sweetie — why would I lie to you? I’m not asking you to give me anything here,” she said. “We’re a pregnancy health and education center.”


    For several minutes, a CPC employee told horror stories about the dangers of being on birth control, saying she typically tries to talk women out of using it. She likened birth control to “tremendous dosages of steroids,” and belittled her patient for opting to flood her body with artificial hormones. “You really want that stuff inside of you? You have a brain, think and choose here,” she said. “Any of that stuff is just not good for you.”

    According to the CPC counselor, birth control is dangerous because taking it for four years before becoming pregnant can increase women’s chance of getting breast cancer by 48 percent. She repeatedly referred to the “carcinogens” in contraception. She also cautioned her client to “read the fine print,” warning that even if she would never choose to have an abortion, she could accidentally end up aborting a fetus while using hormonal contraception. “If you’re on the pill, on the patch, on the shot, and get pregnant… Unintentionally, you will abort that baby because the uterus cannot sustain that pregnancy because the lining has been so altered by those steroids, the artificial hormones,” she claimed.

    The CPC employee falsely asserted that condoms and birth control pills are about equally effective at preventing pregnancy, and claimed that using condoms doesn’t actually prevent the transmission of sexually transmitted infections.

    “They’re naturally porous — there’s always a chance of them breaking, a chance of spillage,” she said. “The only safe sex is no sex.”


    The conversation also quickly took a religious bent. “If you’re not married, why are you having sex?” the CPC counselor asked her client. “That’s why you feel like you have to put these hormones in your body — the more you have sex, the more chance you have of getting pregnant.” Later, she added, “Confined to a marriage, of course, sex is expected — you believe in God, that’s the whole plan of God.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013...aught-on-tape/

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    Yeah, well, one day she'll realize that one instance requires a host to grow the fetus while under the other instance the person is fully autonomous. That's why there's nothing simplistic about abortion.


    Yep... looks autonomous to me. Definitely doesn't need aaaaaanyone elses body to exist.

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    So, what is the GOP plan to deal with all these unwanted babies that will be born because of these restrictive abortion laws?

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    So, what is the GOP plan to deal with all these unwanted babies that will be born because of these restrictive abortion laws?
    I've never heard any anti-choicer answer that. As we see with cutting all kinds of support for poor kids, the pro-choice don't GAF what happens after the kid is born, or even before the kid is born (cutting prenatal care).

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    So what should happen to a baby that survives an abortion and is technically alive outside the womb? Come on pro-choicers, step up to the streets and give me your vast wisdom on this.

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    As they have pulled the trigger at those babies, they wouldn't allow them no chance to survive even if they're still alive out of the womb. There're many kinds of substances that are capable of putting an end to a baby's life, or any adult's life. Doctors are just butchers in white gowns imho

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    A woman has no say in the matter in my opinion because she can no longer use the argument of "it's my body, it's my choice". Since the baby is no longer inside the woman's body, she has no say in the matter. Tough .

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    So what should happen to a baby that survives an abortion and is technically alive outside the womb? Come on pro-choicers, step up to the streets and give me your vast wisdom on this.
    If they live, let them live...now what are you gonna do with the millions of kids born into extreme poverty, neglect and abuse?

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    Not my kids, not my problems. Like I said, I have a "tough " at ude toward a person that wants to murder a baby that survived an abortion and is alive.

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    Yep... looks autonomous to me. Definitely doesn't need aaaaaanyone elses body to exist.
    I don't see another person (host) there. Nice strawman though.

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    So, what is the GOP plan to deal with all these unwanted babies that will be born because of these restrictive abortion laws?
    ship 'em back to mexico

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    So, what is the GOP plan to deal with all these unwanted babies that will be born because of these restrictive abortion laws?
    Iran invasion force

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    Yep... looks autonomous to me. Definitely doesn't need aaaaaanyone elses body to exist.
    Yep and no one has the right the pull the plug on him... Oh wait

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    Pro-choicers, answer this for me. If a baby survives an abortion and is alive outside the womb, if someone stops that baby's breathing or heart from beating, is that murder?

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    Is this really an issue, ie, does it happen with any frequency at all?

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    Is it murder: yes or no?

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    Is it hypothetical, yes or no?

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    It's whatever you want it to be. Step up and answer the question.

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    Then, neither.

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