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    The only good part of Obamacare is that a similar healthcare plan was passed in Canada that ultimately led to Canada's current plan.

    Thus, liberals like what the plan might lead to, not the ty plan itself

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    LOL what? No one wanted the piece of blowjob to the insurance companies that Obama copied from Romney.
    In the context of the issue what i meant by "what" was the existence of universal healthcare in U.S. Far-right are trying overturn the whole thing, the principle of it. That's all I meant. Instead, they should try to shore it up because people in the U.S. want universal healthcare and the Supreme Court legitimized it.

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    The only good part of Obamacare is that a similar healthcare plan was passed in Canada that ultimately led to Canada's current plan.

    Thus, liberals like what the plan might lead to, not the ty plan itself
    The tiness was extorted into ACA by the health care industry, compounding the tiness the Repugs handed the industry Medicare Part D (unfunded), Medicare Advantage (10%+ more expensive than Medicare), and forbidding price negotiation with BigPharma, so USA pays tons more for drugs sold a lot cheaper in other countries.

    For-profit insurance companies absolutely forbid a no-profit public health insurance option.

    And Repugs are working all out to make the implementation of ACA as ty, as failure prone, as they can, even threatening pro ball leagues NOT to help roll it out.

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    The tiness was extorted into ACA by the health care industry, compounding the tiness the Repugs handed the industry Medicare Part D (unfunded), Medicare Advantage (10%+ more expensive than Medicare), and forbidding price negotiation with BigPharma, so USA pays tons more for drugs sold a lot cheaper in other countries.

    For-profit insurance companies absolutely forbid a no-profit public health insurance option.

    And Repugs are working all out to make the implementation of ACA as ty, as failure prone, as they can, even threatening pro ball leagues NOT to help roll it out.
    They're fighting tooth and nail to prevent a single payer system because once everyone in this country sees how much better it is that's the point of no return, they wouldn't be able to convince country to go back to private healthcare ever again

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    They're fighting tooth and nail to prevent a single payer system because once everyone in this country sees how much better it is that's the point of no return, they wouldn't be able to convince country to go back to private healthcare ever again
    You obviously haven't seen the lines the Canadians and Brit's have to wait in for their universal healthcare. They're ing unbearable. I'd prefer the federal govt subsidize my healthcare by 3x before I'd wait in those ing lines

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    You obviously haven't seen the lines the Canadians and Brit's have to wait in for their universal healthcare. They're ing unbearable. I'd prefer the federal govt subsidize my healthcare by 3x before I'd wait in those ing lines
    And they have death panels

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    God damnit, an unborn fetus dies every time a government gets to negotiate a drug price.

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    God damnit, an unborn fetus dies every time a government gets to negotiate a drug price.
    Do I get to take it home, name it and play with it?

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    The real reason for the GOP's all-out war on Obamacare

    At its core, the Republicans' scorched-earth opposition to Obamacare has never been so much about "freedom" or "limited government" or any other right-wing ideological buzzword as it has been about political power, pure and simple. Now as for the past 20 years, Republicans have feared not that health care reform would fail the American people, but that it would succeed. Along with Social Security and Medicare, successful health care reform would provide the third and final pillar of Americans' social safety net, all brought you by the Democratic Party. To put it another way, the GOP was never really concerned about a "government takeover of health care", "rationing", "the doctor-patient relationship" or mythical "death panels," but that an American public grateful for access to health care could provide Democrats with an enduring majority for years to come

    But what Utah Senator Orrin Hatch called a "holy war" to block health care reform didn't start when Barack Obama took the oath of office in January 2009, but instead when Bill Clinton was inaugurated in 1993. It was then that former Quayle chief of staff and Republican strategist William Kristol warned his GOP allies that a Clinton victory on health care could guarantee Democratic majorities for the foreseeable future. "The Clinton proposal is also a serious political threat to the Republican Party," Kristol wrote in his infamous December 3, 1993 memo led "Defeating President Clinton's Health Care Proposal," adding:

    "Its passage in the short run will do nothing to hurt (and everything to help) Democratic electoral prospects in 1996. But the long-term political effects of a successful Clinton health care bill will be even worse--much worse. It will relegitimize middle-class dependence for 'security' on government spending and regulation. It will revive the reputation of the party that spends and regulates, the Democrats, as the generous protector of middle-class interests. And it will at the same time strike a punishing blow against Republican claims to defend the middle class by restraining government."

    And that, for Kristol, meant it had to be stopped at all costs:


    "The first step in that process must be the unqualified political defeat of the Clinton health care proposal. Its rejection by Congress and the public would be a monumental setback for the president; and an incontestable piece of evidence that Democratic welfare-state liberalism remains firmly in retreat."

    As the
    American Prospect recalled, Kristol's war plan:

    Darkly warned that a Democratic victory would save Clinton's political career, revive the politics of the welfare state, and ensure Democratic majorities far into the future. "Any Republican urge to negotiate a 'least bad' compromise with the Democrats, and thereby gain momentary public credit for helping the president 'do something' about health care, should be resisted," wrote Kristol. Republican pollster Bill McInturff advised Congressional Republicans that success in the 1994 midterm elections required "not having health care pass."

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...e?detail=email




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