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    Yeah, San Antonio.

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    Yeah, San Antonio.
    Checkin' in from my summer hiatus and JaG with the goods per par tbh.

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    Should of called that Tv Show Bar Rescue to help..

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    Should have let Matt run the show with his brother.

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    Does this mean Parker is getting traded?
    Supposed to be a blue color font... I know...I know..

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    First off, there are plenty of upscale establishments thriving in San Antonio. So much so, that this closing will barely register on the SA social scene. Just a terrible location.

    Second, what an odd indicator to use. Wealthiest zip codes? Ok, but then, you use it so incredibly inaccuratly and with such hyperbole that it loses purpose. What do I mean? I mean, you claim San Antonio doesn't have a top 1,000 zip code yet the wealthiest Dallas zip code has an average household income of $98k while the wealthiest San Antonio zip code has an average household income of $92k.

    , the wealthiest Texas zip code is in Houston at $200k, but that zip code has a population of less than 700 people.

    I get that your overt bias is trying to paint a broad picture, but kid, when you do that with ty claims thy are easily refuted, well, you look make yourself even more of a clown.
    Dallas, TX 75201: $372,255 (Population = 2364)
    Houston, TX 77002: $264,207 (Population = 2319)
    Fort Worth, TX 76102: $250,104 (Population = 2391)
    Houston, TX 77019: $221,805 (Population = 7960)
    Austin, TX 78730: $210,209 (Population = 1993)
    Houston, TX 77024: $208,156 (Population = 17111)
    Dallas, TX 75205: $203,006 (Population = 10982)
    Dallas, TX 75225: $200,921 (Population = 11331)
    Austin, TX 78746: $200,771 (Population = 12215)

    Those are the top 9 wealthiest zip codes in Texas, and none of them have average incomes close to the $98k figure you cited. Sorry about your ignorance, but nothing you said is correct, except maybe the fact that the wealthiest San Antonio zip code has a pitiful average income of $92K. That only helps my argument.

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    LMAO kid. You throw up random numbers corallating to jack , then ask me for a citation. Funny.

    Any how, here you go.

    The actual data proving you to be a moron.

    I'd really love to get the citation for your numbers because I pretty sure they're not what you think they are.

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    Lmao kid. You throw up random numbers corallating to nothing then ask me for citation. Funny.

    Any how, here you go.

    The actual data proving you to be a moron.
    It's correlating* you ing peasant.

    I didn't ask you for a citation. I took your word for it. Learn to read.

    http://wealth.mongabay.com/tables/10...odes-1000.html

    Edit: And that's based on IRS data for areas with at least 1000 income tax returns.

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    It's correlating* you ing peasant.

    I didn't ask you for a citation. I took your word for it. Learn to read.

    http://wealth.mongabay.com/tables/10...odes-1000.html

    Edit: And that's based on IRS data for areas with at least 1000 income tax returns.
    I'm a peasant because of an auto correct?.

    Well, I was using the word "kid" as a dismissive cheap shot but now I suspect you actually are a kid. Probably in high school.

    By the way, did you happen to cross check any of those zip codes before using that site as a source? I'll go with no, you didn't.

    Let's see. 77201. The first zip code in your list.

    If you go here and here and here. You'll see what the listed household income is.

    Don't go hiding now.

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    They should've done a promotion with Matt Bonner wearing a sandwich board.

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    The day I first learned he had opened that type of night club in San Antonio at that location, I thought "textbook professional athtlete making terrible investment." I'm surprised it bled out for over one year.

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    If he owns the space he should be able to recoup a good portion of the losses by selling in the near to medium term future as commercial real estate will probably continue to appreciate in San Antonio.

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    I'm a peasant because of an auto correct?.
    Looks like an auto-misspell function. Do they even make those?

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    This was a predictable money-loser, as others have noted. It was obvious at the start that Tony was trying to get his brothers into something that would keep them interested and maybe not lose too much money. But it did.

    Most things that pro athletes turn to for making money lose like this. Lots of football players start restaurants that lose money. A few don't, but most do. Bars are worse than restaurants for making money. Especially start-ups. He probably needed to put it in a place like a hotel or somewhere downtown to make real money, but that would mean that Tony, his brothers and so many of the Spurs who live out near where the Club was located would have to travel a long way to get there. The location was as much about convenience for them as for making money.

    Remember Bruce Bowen opening that spa for his wife? Lost money and closed. Remember the restaurant that Pop owned for a while? Lost money and closed.

    I expect the same thing will happen with Timmy's car/truck body shop at some point too.

    These things are like the "I'd like to do this..." things for people with enough money to lose on something. Once they actually lose the money it's not nearly as much fun as they thought it would be.

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    The day I first learned he had opened that type of night club in San Antonio at that location, I thought "textbook professional athtlete making terrible investment." I'm surprised it bled out for over one year.
    IIRC he put money on his brother project. TP is no fool regarding his investments, he put an amount and told his brother run the stuff when it went south he just refused to refund. He pleased his family while limiting the money he put into.

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    I believe Bruce's spa closing had more to do with his divorce. You have to be smart with your investments. And even when you are, that's no gurantee for long term success or success at all. Coby Dietrik owned and may still own a relax the back store for a long time. I believe he also invented in La Tuna. David has his investment company.

    As for Tim, I think that'll be successful simply because its not some side thing or just something he poured money into looking for a return. It's an actual love and passion for him.

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    As for Tim, I think that'll be successful simply because its not some side thing or just something he poured money into looking for a return. It's an actual love and passion for him.
    Sadly, he can love it all he wants but unless there's a market for it, it wont succeed. If there is a market, then the product needs to be managed and marketed correctly.

    When it comes to real estate, the most profitable flips are the ones that are nicely done but still affordable to the masses. Too many people get caught up with buying expensive homes and trying to flip them with high end finishes, etc.. Too much work and too little customer base. Keep it simple and affordable and you can move more units.

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    Sadly, he can love it all he wants but unless there's a market for it, it wont succeed. If there is a market, then the product needs to be managed and marketed correctly.
    Oh no, I agree and I believe there is a market for it esp in that area. What you quoted was said with the belief that there is a market demand for his car shop.

    What I meant by it, is that even if there is a market for a restaurant, for example, if there isn't a love or passion for what you're doing, it will likely fail.

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    Lol there's definitely a huge market for Tim's shop out here it's not going anywhere

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    I believe Bruce's spa closing had more to do with his divorce. You have to be smart with your investments. And even when you are, that's no gurantee for long term success or success at all. Coby Dietrik owned and may still own a relax the back store for a long time. I believe he also invented in La Tuna. David has his investment company.

    As for Tim, I think that'll be successful simply because its not some side thing or just something he poured money into looking for a return. It's an actual love and passion for him.
    Yardley's spa closed well before their divorce, and had everything to do with employees stealing their customer list.

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    bad marketing.... I never heard of this bar otherwise I would have went to it many times!

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    San Antonio just doesn't seem like the city for a fancy upscale nightclub.

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    San Antonio just doesn't seem like the city for a fancy upscale nightclub.
    That's odd, because off the too of my head, Glo, Nectar, Grand Agave, Aquifer and Space are all doing well.

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    Lol there's definitely a huge market for Tim's shop out here it's not going anywhere
    Depends on the prices. SA isn't a rich city but a car shop is still a more reliable investment than a overpriced bar or a vanity spa.

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