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With addition of a couple of teams and the subtraction of 3 all time great teams rebuilding... I'd say yes. Lakers, Boston and Pistons were toast. In came a ton of young talent and MJ was in his prime.
With addition of a couple of teams and the subtraction of 3 all time great teams rebuilding... I'd say yes. Lakers, Boston and Pistons were toast. In came a ton of young talent and MJ was in his prime.
Michael Jordan Untouchable
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9M-KCulzJqg
Michael Jordan Untouchable 2
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mmlfiMDUTQ4
It's so obvious that Jordan played in a water down league.
So you disagree that MJ only played a single full season with the shortended 3pt line? You're acting as if a huge portion of his career was spent under those rules. Jordan didn't play in 1994-1995. He only played 17 games at the end of 95-96. So with the 82 games of 96-97, that's 99 games. Out of 1,072. Less than 10%.Bull .... the shortened 3-point line was in place from 1994-95 to 1996-97.... that includes the Bulls' 72-win season, when Jordan "coincidentally" shot and made threes at the highest rate of his career, doubling his previous career highs....
Jordan Jockers are too funny
So I'm not sure how my pointing out how little time he spent under those rules is somehow "bull " when it's a fact, or "funny" since I posted the info you intentionally left out. Those are the facts. The only thing funny is you being upset that I posted the rest of the information to make your point look as bad as it should've looked in the first place had you actually included the facts of how little time he spent with the shortened line.
You might very well be correct. The great Knicks teams of the 90's did not get one because of that namely! I think the Suns win one as well if they don't face that Bulls team (Sonics too). They stopped so many teams from ringing it was crazy. If Jordan did not retire Hakeem might not have had one ring, think about that. He could have very well 8 peated.
Bull , New York went to 7 games vs the Rockets and could have even won it if they did not choke the last two at home! That NY team was tough! They could have won a le in those years against a West team, period. Jordans Bulls though were the cream of the crop obviously, but the Knicks were stacked and a very physical team.
I think the league had a good amount of talent, but there wasn't nearly as much talent that played at MJs position as do today. There have been a LOT of incredible swingmen over the past decade, however when MJ was in the league, particularly in the 90s, it was a very thin pool.
He won 69 games the year after. Plus Kidd K didn't say anything that wasn't true. You basically agreed with him.
Jordan Jockers are too funny
The East was watered down in MJ's second 3-peat after Shaq left for LA. Even then, the Bulls pounded Shaq's Orlando team which was talented. The 97 Knicks were underrated. A very deep team that would have given the Bulls a tougher matchup compared to the Heat if not for the brawl started by PJ Brown. That team would have given any team in the West trouble. The Knicks team won 57 games and could have battled any of the Western teams.
Lets not forget the 98 Pacers
Toughest opponents MJ ever faced in any 3peat run
I agree, but I think the 97 Knicks would have given them a battle as well.
Jordan had some of his best seasons statistically in the 80s. He was a monster, but his team wasn't good enough to compete with the Celtics or Pistons. They were much more loaded.
I think the Knicks would have beaten the Bulls in 97
They were on fire in those playoffs, very confident and would have matched up very well with Chicago (and LJ was still healthy)
Of course, Riley knew what he was doing as he expected his former team to clear the bench
ing BS, Miami shouldnt have advanced
It would have been a great series. They cost the Bulls another 70 win season by wining a great OT game in Chicago in the season finale. They were on fire and definitely deserved to be in the ECFs instead of the Heat. They had a lot of talent. Sucks how we all were robbed of a great ECFs.I think the Knicks would have beaten the Bulls in 97
They were on fire in those playoffs, very confident and would have matched up very well with Chicago (and LJ was still healthy)
Of course, Riley knew what he was doing as he expected his former team to clear the bench
ing BS, Miami shouldnt have advanced
Yeah. Payton however was Jordans toughest matchup. He shot 41% in the series.
Drexler was one of the best 2 guards of all time. Ranking behind Jordan, west and Kobe. He was better than carter and mcgrady and was and most definitely better than miller.drexler was good but he wasn't anything special. dumars was good in the late 80's. magic had a short stint in the 90's. mullins was really good i'll give him that, for a white dude especially.
richmond was good but he was truly one dimensional
blackman, as in rolando blackman? dude made his career in the 80's not 90's, check your facts son
I don't really care if the players played in the 80s or 90s. Jordan faced them all, starting in 1985.
It's like saying Kobe failed against Nash in the mid 00s because that's the best stretch of Nash's career and Kobe couldn't go through him.
Richmond can post up, shoot and drive. How is that one dimensional?
Jordan's Eastern Conference>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lebron's eastern conference
The league changed the rules to make this perimeter all stars. There really aren't any questions about that. Look at the huge jump in stats for perimeter players like iverson, carter and Kobe in the 00-01 season, especially fga.
Ah.. the days of the ridiculous looking Oakley sunglasses.
While Moses Malone and others entered the league early before Jordan's time it was not the norm that it is today. For the most part the NBA had a much better developmental league in the NCAA where players stayed for 3+ years. Kobe and Garnett were on the vanguard of the staright out of HS movement. The Pistons, Bulls, Cavs, Knicks, Blazers, Rockets, Jazz, Suns, etc teams that he faced were chock full of guys that came into the NBA prepared to play from their rookie year onwards. Nowadays you have a slew of 'young' teams chock full of 20 year olds that lack skill.
Teams also stayed together longer.
If you want a watered down era in NBA history look to the 1970s when half of the worlds talent was playing in the ABA.
LMAO!!!!! You dont know WTF you are talking about.......Look at the centers in the 90's
Hakeem
Shaq
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Alonzo Mourning
Dikembe Mutombo
Rik SMits
Brad Daugherty
Vlade Divac
Elden Campbell......kinda pushing it
Those players you are talking about on the wing would not even get to the hole half as much as they do now. There are like 2 good centers in the NBA today. I think its watered down now.
He claimed the shortened three-point line didn't affect Jordan, but it clearly did, considering he had his best three-point shooting years with the shortened line.... when the line got moved back again, his percentage from three plummeted to 23.8% and the Bulls "only" won 62 games....
The shortened line also helped Pippen's numbers, which in turn helped Jordan even more, tbh....
Okay, so what does that have to do with what I said? I merely said that there was a thin pool of talent at the swingman positions. I said nothing about the league being watered down, nor did I say anything about big men in the league. I ONLY said that there was less talent at MJ's position when he was playing.
utsa education making you incapable of comprehending 2 sentences
The game itself has changed drastically over the past decade imho. Centers ain't no longer belonging in the center stage, like godfather Riley said, the trend of modern basketball is making up a team of all 6'5 and 6'6 guys. Big-oriented games belonged to the 20th century and the early half of the 2000s but their time is already gone imho
I don't believe in all the rule change hype. Good players find ways to be good no matter what the rule changes are. And people still hand check anyways, so I don't find that to be a very good excuse.
The reason for the increase in swingmen/perimeter players is one reason only - Michael Jordan. Every one of these players grew up watching MJ, and wanting to be just like MJ. Unfortunately, many of them also forget how much importance he placed on fundamentals and hard work in practice. They just saw the highlight reel dunks and the high degree of difficulty shots he was capable of making, and wanted to imitate those things, instead of focusing on what he truly did best, which was playing smart, fundamental basketball predicated on high percentage shots. There is a reason that probably the most similar thing we have gotten to MJ is Kobe, and that is because of his comparable work ethic. Even then, he still never has quite matched up to MJ mentally.
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