You got something to say, then say it. Don't hide behind the coward's skirts of begging the question.
You got something to say, then say it. Don't hide behind the coward's skirts of begging the question.
It wasn't a hypothetical question. I will ask again and maybe you can man up and answer it instead of being a pussy. If a baby survives an abortion and is alive outside of the womb, is it murder if someone ends the life of that newborn baby that survived an abortion?
If the abortion was legal, that is, in the 1st trimester, then no, it's not murder.
So if a human being grabs a loaded revolver and points to the chest of a baby that survived an abortion and is alive and pulls the trigger and kills that baby, that is not murder? If you kill someone, it's murder.
As long as they haven't got their citizens' IDs, they're not humans and it's not illegal to kill them. But does it also mean it's "legal" to kill those illegal immigrants as well? Hospitals don't treat patients like humans, they treat them as cattle, so the doctors don't feel no guilt cutting off the life support on their "patients" and watching them die, standing by without doing no damn thing right. They don't feel no sin castrating every new-born like ranchers sterilizing new-born cabs.
You're making some assumptions there:
A) You can extract a 1st trimester fetus without killing it (not possible right now, AFAIK)
B) 1st trimester fetus could survive on it's own
I understand the chest and gun come in for melodramatic effect, but if this is a legal abortion (that is, the mother decided to abort in the 1st trimester), then no, it's not murder.
What if the human that has a loaded revolver and shoots a living baby that survived an abortion is not the mother or doctor? Let's say that the shooter is some crazy person that escaped from the hospital's mental ward and shoots the new born baby that survived an abortion. Is that murder? Another example for you abortion lovers, is it murder if a sniper shoots a woman in the stomach but the woman survives? The catch is that she was 3 months pregnant but her unborn baby or piece of (that's what abortion lovers consider unborn babies) died/ceased to exist. Should that sniper be charged with just attempted murder or both attempted murder and murder?
When you have to load up a question with ridiculous qualifiers, then the question itself becomes a parody of itself.
lol snipers and mental wards.
I am still looking for someone brave enough to answer that question.
I thought I answered your question while the question was "a baby survives an abortion and is alive outside of the womb"...
But at any rate, this really isn't complicated, Jacob. By law, during the first trimester, the mother has the authority to end her pregnancy. She can either do it herself (ie: pill) or direct a medical professional to do so (without such professional incurring in any liability). In any event where it's the first trimester, and the mother doesn't explicitly authorizes to end her pregnancy, and some third party does kill that fetus (whether it involves snipers, masked man, molotov tails, paratroopers, etc) it's codified by law as a murder of the unborn (which is actually on a different section from the a regular 'person' murder, since the SCOTUS has established that personhood starts when you're actually born, but that's a different discussion).
lol brave. It's an asinine question. EN answered it.
I still believe that if a mother got a loaded gun in a hospital and shot her alive baby that survived an abortion that there would be some type of crime committed. A liberal judge might let her get away with literally killing her baby but what about shooting a loaded weapon in a hospital? I'm pretty sure that would be an illegal discharge of a firearm. And again, what's the difference between a mom telling a doctor to kill her aborted baby that survived an abortion than a sniper shooting a pregnant woman and killing that woman's unborn baby? Picking and choosing when it's murder. Not surprising though because that's how liberals roll when it comes to baby killing.
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/page/2/The rate is now roughly where it was in 1973, when Roe went into effect. So without getting rid of the legal regime for abortion, rates are now almost where they were before it came into effect.
I read where fully 1/3 of all American women have had at least one abortion by age 45.
For abortions before 8 weeks, the chances of death of the mother are 1 in a million.
I'm anti-abortion and pro-choice![]()
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DOK, keep the coming on. I hope you go broke and become homeless you piece of ass .
lol ecstasies of profanity
I call it how I see it. If you treat me like , you will get to experience my wrath. I have no sympathy at all for people that are doing well in life and take it upon themselves to insult, bash, and laugh at those that are less fortunate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
The premise of your question is flawed. Try again and try much harder.
I make no apologies. If you treat me like , expect for me to treat you the same and offer no sympathy for your suffering. You should see me when I drive. When I drive and someone does something that pisses me off, I usually wish that something bad happens to their car but not while they are driving because it would affect me and other drivers who are not responsible for said driver pissing me off. I usually wish that their catalytic converter will break and/or that they will have a hole the size of a quarter in their fuel tank which will be drained empty by the next morning.
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