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    Oh look, a Christian who denies man-made climate change. What a shocker.
    yo buddy where are your scientific credentials?

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    Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIIIWhen a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.


    Mas. Yevamoth 61b[Again non-Jews are referred to as "cattle."]All Israelites will have a part in the future world... The Goyim, at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel Duma and sent down to .
    Since your posting in the other thread, I did a little reading on this set of do ents.

    It seems that there are both bad and intentionally incorrect translations of them, as propaganda against the Jewish people. Are you certain you have a correct translation?

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    It's not about believing in AGW so much as it is believing in catostrophic AGW.
    Actually it is about believing in global warming as that is what the polls on the subject ask but thanks for being wrong for the billionth time. A billion + one is your next post. Par for the course.

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    Actually it is about believing in global warming as that is what the polls on the subject ask but thanks for being wrong for the billionth time. A billion + one is your next post. Par for the course.
    I think it's more important yet to clarify what you mean by climate change.

    So many viewpoints, and they simply cannot be bundled into two camps.

    I believe in climate change.

    I believe AGW is real.

    I simply do not believe CO2 in the primary cause of the warming we see.

    That said....

    I agree with AntiChrist.

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    So Dok, when are you going to execute all Christians in America and around the world because they disagree with you on climate change and other things?

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    Since your posting in the other thread, I did a little reading on this set of do ents.

    It seems that there are both bad and intentionally incorrect translations of them, as propaganda against the Jewish people. Are you certain you have a correct translation?

    you're incorrect. Goyim = Gentile. There is no difference.. from wiki..

    In English, the use of the word goy can be controversial. Like other common (and otherwise innocent) terms, it may be assigned pejoratively to non-Jews.[6][7][8] To avoid any perceived offensive connotations, writers may use the English terms "gentile" or "non-Jew".
    In Yiddish, it is the only proper term for gentile and many bilingual English and Yiddish speakers use it dispassionately[9] or even deliberately.
    The term shabbos goy refers to a non-Jew who performs duties that Jewish law forbids a Jew from performing on the Sabbath, such as lighting a fire to warm a house.

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    you're incorrect. Goyim = Gentile. There is no difference.. from wiki..
    I'm sorry. Wiki is incorrect in this case. Regular people edit wiki, and wiki is often wrong.

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    I'm sorry. Wiki is incorrect in this case. Regular people edit wiki, and wiki is often wrong.
    that may be find and all, but they referenced the American Heritage Dictionary.

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    It's not about believing in AGW so much as it is believing in catostrophic AGW.
    For you it's been about waffling your stance to the best of your sophist abilities.

    Over the last few years we have seen you go from 'it's not warming but instead it's getting cooler. Look at my mailer." to "it may be warming, it may not be warming. Here is a graphic that I will claim came from BEST but it really came from a mailer that shows this." to your above stance of "it's warming but it's nothing to worry about."

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    For you it's been about waffling your stance to the best of your sophist abilities.

    Over the last few years we have seen you go from 'it's not warming but instead it's getting cooler. Look at my mailer." to "it may be warming, it may not be warming. Here is a graphic that I will claim came from BEST but it really came from a mailer that shows this." to your above stance of "it's warming but it's nothing to worry about."

    'it's not warming but instead it's getting cooler.Look at my mailer."

    Where's the post where I said that?

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    'it's not warming but instead it's getting cooler.Look at my mailer."

    Where's the post where I said that?
    We have done this before. I am not doing it again. If you want to deny your graphs with the downward trajectory from a 10 year interval then so be it.

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    We have done this before. I am not doing it again. If you want to deny your graphs with the downward trajectory from a 10 year interval then so be it.
    Oh, I see what you're talking about. Yes, I have posted graphs that show no significant warming over the past 15 years or so. I think we can agree that that is different from saying it is cooling.

    GFY

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    Oh, I see what you're talking about. Yes, I have posted graphs that show no significant warming over the past 15 years or so. I think we can agree that that is different from saying it is cooling.

    GFY
    What do downward trajectory mean?

    And nice boutox channeling there, chachi.

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    that may be find and all, but they referenced the American Heritage Dictionary.
    Dictionary definitions aren't always correct either, especially with ancient translations. These distinctions come from the specific tribes from the son's of Noah.

    I'm not going to continue with a religious argument. I suggest you look at various material that covers goyims, Semites, and gentiles so you can speak on the topic informed.

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    Well all i know is in my 35 years of living, it seems to have gotten hotter in the last couple of years than anytime in my life. Ive read articles that the CO2 levels (at least in Hawaii) are at its highest in millions of years. The question is what has caused the CO2 levels to rise?

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    Any idiot who thinks that the amount of energy stored in the earth has not risen over the past 15 years probably got their engineering degree from UTSA.



    Care to take a guess which contains more energy, the ocean or atmosphere? Looking at nothing but one data set in a narrow view without regard to the full earth system or the natural oscillations that lead to short term variability and thinking you have a valid point is the sign of someone who isn't very smart.

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    Yawn

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    Any idiot who thinks that the amount of energy stored in the earth has not risen over the past 15 years probably got their engineering degree from UTSA.



    Care to take a guess which contains more energy, the ocean or atmosphere? Looking at nothing but one data set in a narrow view without regard to the full earth system or the natural oscillations that lead to short term variability and thinking you have a valid point is the sign of someone who isn't very smart.
    Like usual, you have me lost.

    1) The oceans contain magnitudes more heat than the atmosphere.

    2) Who do you think you are arguing against? Yourself?

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    As for the source of Manny's graph (Leviticus et. al. 2012)

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/2...verconfidence/

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    As for the source of Manny's graph (Leviticus et. al. 2012)

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/2...verconfidence/
    Regardless, what did I miss? What was his point? Besides much of the data being nothing more than educated guesses using models. It's pretty well accepted that the ocean is warming too. If we go back to the graph I posted in post #9, you can see that the ocean absorbs visible light and UV rather deep compared to the IR in the CO2 radiative spectra. I'll bet it takes several decades, maybe hundreds of years for the ocean heat to stabilize from the last major solar increase, which ended about 1950.

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    As for the source of Manny's graph (Leviticus et. al. 2012)

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/2...verconfidence/
    So you think that's a good critique? You think that the findings of oceanic heat content rising are invalid as shown in Levitus 2013? Is the heat content in oceans rising or not?

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    I'm not aware of any papers that show a decline - or even a stabilization - in ocean heat content but perhaps in your vast studies on the subject you have come across them and can direct me in their direction. Surely when you claim it hasn't warmed in 15 years you have scientific data that shows the oceans have not warmed so I eagerly await that data. Thanks.

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    I'm not aware of any papers that show a decline - or even a stabilization - in ocean heat content but perhaps in your vast studies on the subject you have come across them and can direct me in their direction. Surely when you claim it hasn't warmed in 15 years you have scientific data that shows the oceans have not warmed so I eagerly await that data. Thanks.

    hey aren't you a be@ner, what do you know?

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