Reply With QuoteI don't even want the 80 or so years we get now. If you think music is ty now, just wait a hundred years. If you think new generations are annoying as now, just wait a few generations.
No thanks.
Cucks have feelings too!!!
I don't even want the 80 or so years we get now. If you think music is ty now, just wait a hundred years. If you think new generations are annoying as now, just wait a few generations.
No thanks.
Yeah but you can't think of anything so no shocker there.I can't of a better place to pose that question than SpursTalk.
Only the adherence to God will give you immortality tbh. Science will probably help extend your life but there'll still be a limit imho, while the spiritual power comes with no limits. Like how it worked out for Zhang Sangfeng, who was an avid Taoist believing in Taoism (Laozi being his "God"). Dude lived past his 200th birthday as rumors said, and he's maybe still alive
Your Goddess is immortal
You don't yet know how awful a thing death is bro. Those TOSBs who knew they were soon about to die were scared as . they couldn't sleep, couldn't eat, they were constantly hassled by the fear of being forgotten by their children within just a few years of their death. The fear of being "forgotten" might be most scary part of death imho, even more than the physical pain experienced when you're dying
True, thanks
I want to live an eternal life but I think that would be meaningless if I'm to live another 100 years with my goddess sleeping in a "big old tomb on grand street". So if i can figure out a way to eternal life I'll share the knowledge with my goddess before anyone, tbh.
I don't long for death, I just don't fear it and I don't feel greedy enough about life that I want to live forever. It's like a movie, you've seen it, exit through the rear, why stay for another showing?
I don't want to live to be old as . If I cannot take care of myself, I might as well be dead.
A man is as old as he feels though, as the old proverb goes. You can live to a very "old" age while maintaining good health, like Zhang Sangfeng. I would probably also kill myself if I couldn't even dress myself anymore but I'll always stick to a frugal life (even if I get rick someday somehow), just like Sanfeng did. I'm not sure if I can outlive Laozi or Sanfeng but I'm definitely working hard towards that end.
I fear death just as much as I fear losing Scarlett, they're equivalent in some way because if I die I'd lose her, and if I lose her then it would be meaningless for me to continue living.
Keith Richards died about 30-35 years ago - but he did alright on the last Stones tour....
My own death is nothing, like a needle prick to the arm, done and gone. It's the deaths you have to live with that's hard. That's more like a slow amputation without anesthetic and then having to heal and get over the fact that the limb is forever gone.
interesting responses to say the least. thank you for all of your input... even though most didn't answer the question appropriately, it still gave insight.
Just a tidbit of info for those that are skeptics about immortality by 2045... The Human Genome project, when first conceived in 1987.... at that time people thought it was preposterous that we could do it in a lifetime, they thought it would take thousands of years... After 7 years of research, we reached 1% mapping of the human genome... that lead people to say "SEE! its going to take a thousand years to do this!" but they didn't understand exponential growth... our minds are designed to think in linear growth.... 1,2,3,4,5.... Exponential growth, as it is with I/T and several other fields, is much different.... it goes 1,2,4,8,16,32,64 and so on. In other words, technology doubles in performance almost every year... currently I think its's 13 months, but close enough.
it may not seem like much to begin with, but if you take linear progression, which we are "programmed" to think like and compare it to exponential progression, which is what Technology is growing at on a predictable graph since the 1950's, its astonishing. On a linear growth, by the time you hit "level 30", on an exponential growth scale, which Technology has been following for the past 60 years or so almost spot on, we would be at roughly level 8.6 BILLION. Think about it, not even 20 years ago the "internet" was just a novelty with DOS programs like Prodigy (which I used BTW back in the early 80's). The phone you have in your pocket is much more powerful than the computers NASA had back in 1979, which took up whole rooms. That PS3 sitting in your house, which costs you $300, is as powerful as a military supercomputer from 1997 which costs several million dollars at the time.
Call it crazy or whatever you like, but we are exponentially growing when it comes to technology and there is no sign of it slowing down.... The future that I talk of is inevitable, be it 2045 or not... It's going to happen.
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I can't even stand teenagers who are not even 10 years younger than me, why would I stay around for the next 60 to 70 years? Anyway, mortality exists for a reason; the Earth has limited resources, and feeding immortal beings would simply hasten its demise. No thanks, the Earth is far more important than humanity's continued existence.
Why?
Imagine there's a planet like Earth some billion parsecs away that's uninhabited. How important is it?
I fail to see innate value in the Earth outside of what I need from it. If you claim you do see that value, part of me feels it's probably some misguided sense of oneness with a nature that couldn't give two s about you.
I worked with the human genome project and still do work with genetics and bio-discovery. What you're suggesting is a fairytale. It's not what we don't know, it's what we can't do about what we do know. The instrumentation available to detect markers lack enough specificity to get there. We can make better instruments with higher signal to noise ratios and faster scanning times and higher resolutions however it's not going to get there by the date you mentioned. Moore's Law has run aground and so it goes with other aspects of science as well. We reach diminishing returns for long periods until there's a breakthrough.
Please tell me that human isn't Gregg Popovich.
My mother is 78.
Good point, but your death would impose the same grievous feelings on the ones who love you, and the thought of other people being grievous because of your death would make it very hard for you to rest in peace imho. I think a big part of the sorror of death is the pain it causes to one's family. I once dreamed of being dead, my soul came back to my home and saw a picture of mine in black & white resting on the desk, and my mom melting on the ground crying. I just couldn't imagine how my mom (or anyone else who loved me just as hard, like my goddess) would survive the fact that I was dead, tbh.
I'd jump all over immorality.
check your mom's ass for the shocker
no thanks im not that selfish. everyone on earth and in the past are a bunch of self righteous s who need to pass the torch to future generations if we have any hope of survival.
Death is simply death. You don't grieve from the grave. Otherwise you're not really dead, just in another state of living. I had billions of years of "peace" before I was born. I feel secure enough in my thinking process to conclude it will be the same post mortem.
Maybe there is no separation between human beings and nature....
Maybe this separation only exists in human beings minds.
Why isn't that good enough? Why do you think that conceptualization doesn't equal reality? Maybe it does.
This is why I said maybe -
As far as a concept being equal to reality - it isn't. Humans make this fundamental mistake all the time. A concept can point you in the direction of reality - but - once you arrive - you have to go further - sort of like...
your car drives you to your house - but when you reach the door - you must dismount and enter your house....the car only took you so far.
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