Just an observation. Nothing Jewish about it.
You're kind of obsessed with this.
He can't and he won't. The manual he follows specifically states that when facts get in the way it is best to just change the subject to something with more emotional appeal."If it saves just one child"
"Over the past 20 years, gun sales have absolutely exploded, but homicides with firearms are down 39 percent during that time and “other crimes with firearms” are down 69 percent."
Reading this thread earlier today reminded me I meant to get my carry permit. Downloaded the application this morning, filled it out, drove to the sheriff's office, gave them 20 bucks - got my license.
Easy Peezy
Yes or no?
more guns = more gun violence, more gun crimes, more gun suicides, more spousal murders, more arguments won by a gun.
The rate of gun ownership has also decreased significantly over that same period. The reality is you have a bunch of hyper-emo government is gonna take my guns nuts like yourself that are driving up gun sales, just like the NRA and guns and ammo industry want.
I agree the rate of gun ownership has gone down, but by what % is really unknown. I've seen surveys showing a 10% decrease and surveys showing a 2% decrease. It is much more difficult today to get a truthful answer when conducting these surveys as I know I would tell anyone who asked me over the phone that I do not own firearms. Are you saying the decrease in the rate of gun ownership has caused homicides with firearms to drop 39% in this time frame?
Since boutons is too chicken to back his bogus claim I thought you'd give it a shot.
Yes or no?more guns = more gun violence, more gun crimes, more gun suicides, more spousal murders, more arguments won by a gun.
I'm sure it has had an effect. As has the fact that medical technology has improved allowing doctors to save lives that previously would have been lost. There are a lot of factors that go into the equation.
One thing that is certain is that there are a rising number of hyper-emo govt comin' for my guns nuts like yourself that are buying more and more guns.
Advancements in medical technology do not explain the 69% drop in "other crimes with guns".
Sure there are, but they aren't the only people buying guns so I'm not sure what is so lol to you.One thing that is certain is that there are a rising number of hyper-emo govt comin' for my guns nuts like yourself that are buying more and more guns.
It appears you are too chicken to answer the question too...........
Yes or no?more guns = more gun violence, more gun crimes, more gun suicides, more spousal murders, more arguments won by a gun.
It's not my claim to back up tbh. I've already explained there are a number of factors in the gun safety debate that need to be accounted.
I honestly don't know that we have the data to make any sort of causal relationship, which is apparently what the NRA wants as they have been lobbying for decades to prevent the collection of key data.
Renewal?
Yet Boutons made a causal relationship.
Now you want to imply that, if you had the "key data" it would support your position?
lol
You can't seem to address any real points without a caveat of missing "key data" which magically gaps the invisible divide in your rebuttal so romper room it is for you.
Nope. Just saying we don't have a clear picture without key data.
I've got no dog in this hunt. My sole purpose in this debate is to mock the likes of TSA for being an emotional Obama/California gonna steal my guns propaganda pussy.
Do you work for CNN? Here you support an assertion by saying "we don't know"?
Example of why that's a dishonest approach:
DMC: "Th'Pusher is a rapist and a got"
Boutons: "Where's your evidence?"
DMC: "We don't have enough key data to get a clear picture"
Boutons: "So you don't really know"
DMC: "I just don't have the key data, that's all I'm saying"
You are the dog in then hunt. You're the one barking. You cannot attack from a neutral position. Not sure you realize that, maybe you don't have the key data.
The amount of guns owned is not really hidden "key data". The amount and decline of murders/gun crime is also not some hidden "key data". The "key data" you speak of is really irrelevant in this discussion, we do not need to know who owns (hidden key data) the guns to come to a conclusion on whether or not more guns have led to more gun crime now do we?
Lol. I'm attacking TSA for being an emotional gun nut you moron.
You come up with a poor analogy. He does not have to be an advocate of either policy direction to make fun of those that are advocates. This should be obvious. My making fun of Michael Jackson does not make me a Prince fan either.
Not what I'm doing. I simply think the CDC should be allowed to study the impact of guns on society so that we can make better informed policy decisions.
you can look at the number like a chimp and easily see more guns are sold and gun crimes have gone down. As I've pointed out, there are other factors to take into account.
You're an emotional chimp just banging away at your keyboard.
What are these factors you keep saying you've pointed out?
It's funny how you like to toss the word emotional out as if discussing matters on the internet equates to such.
Attacking?
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