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    And we are paying and arming the guys doing the killing. Wonder how many more anti-US jihadists we are gonna create there? Mubarek isn't looking so bad now.

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    American Empire and its corporate predators have often supported anti-democratic, dictatorial powers.

    Dumbed down Americans ask "Why Do They Hate Us?", proving how really dumbed down they are.

    next up? More blow back in the unending War on Terrorism Caused By America.
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    puppet govts

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    of course it's America's fault that these people are killing each other at will

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    what is america gaining from egypt anyway? its not like you clowns are selling anything to them let alone them buying any or your services and

    who needs guns and , when rocks and bricks was enough to overthrow a govt...

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    what is america gaining from egypt anyway?
    Good question. Maybe we should ask Obomba why he supports bombers?

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    The $1B+ per year in military aid to Egypt goes back to 1979 as part of the Israel-Egypt peace treaty. It's a business.

    The money doesn't actually leave USA but goes to US arms mfrs who ship their killing machines to Egypt. aka, corporate welfare. Those arms mfrs buy Congressman to keep the racket going infinitely. Jobs and investors profits. That's a key reason the WH refused to call ousting Morsi a coup, since law prevents USA from aiding coupsters. Follow The Money.

    We ship like planes and tanks that sit in boxes in Egypt, gifts from US taxpayers.

    Egypt May Not Need Fighter Jets, But The U.S. Keeps Sending Them Anyway


    http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/...ng-them-anyway

    Just one of the many insanities ing up America. Ship $Bs of unopened boxes of military to Egypt and cut the US social safety net.



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    arming heads to fight against ur own men just to make a few measy dollars

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    And we are paying and arming the guys doing the killing. Wonder how many more anti-US jihadists we are gonna create there? Mubarek isn't looking so bad now.
    So we should have paid Mubarek to do the killing?

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    So we should have paid Mubarek to do the killing?
    lol watever happen to his assets 20bill, same thing with suddam...

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    So we should have paid Mubarek to do the killing?
    He was keeping his boot on the neck of the Muslim Brotherhood, so yeah, Mubarek was the best option. We caught a glimpse of what Morsi and the MB wanted to do, namely turn Egypt into another Islamic state, a la Iran. That may be just fine with you and 0bama, but it would be a disaster for the world.

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    He was keeping his boot on the neck of the Muslim Brotherhood, so yeah, Mubarek was the best option. We caught a glimpse of what Morsi and the MB wanted to do, namely turn Egypt into another Islamic state, a la Iran. That may be just fine with you and 0bama, but it would be a disaster for the world.
    I mean, what did you want the US to do?

    Come out actively against democracy?

    Invade?

    Speak up.

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    So you preferred another guy supported by the military do the killing, actively supported by the US.

    How is this different?
    I thought what I stated was pretty clear to the average thinking person. I'm not going to dumb myself down in order to converse with you. Nope, not going to do it. Wouldn't be prudent.

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    I thought what I stated was pretty clear to the average thinking person. I'm not going to dumb myself down in order to converse with you. Nope, not going to do it. Wouldn't be prudent.
    So you wanted to go to the mat for Mubarek and come out explicitly against the democratic movement in Egypt.

    OK. Good to know where you stand.

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    So you wanted to go to the mat for Mubarek and come out explicitly against the democratic movement in Egypt.

    OK. Good to know where you stand.
    The cold hard fact is that when that "democracy" has as its goal to enact Sharia law, you have to crush it if you have the chance. Majority rule is a bad thing if you have more crazed voters than not.

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    Egypt considers outlawing Muslim Brotherhood

    1 hr ago By Maggie Michael of Associated Press

    The Muslim Brotherhood has been banned in Egypt for most of its history, though it held power from 2011 until ex-President Mohammed Morsi was deposed in July.

    CAIRO — Egyptian authorities are considering disbanding the Muslim Brotherhood group, a government spokesman said Saturday, once again outlawing a group that held the pinnacle of government power just more than a month earlier.

    The announcement comes after security forces broke up two sit-in protests this week by those calling for the reinstatement of President Mohammed Morsi, a Brotherhood leader deposed in a July 3 coup. The clashes killed more than 600 people that day and sparked protests and violence that killed 173 people Friday alone.


    Cabinet spokesman Sherif Shawki said that Prime Minister Hazem el-Beblawi, who leads the military-backed government, assigned the Ministry of Social Solidarity to study the legal possibilities of dissolving the group. He didn't elaborate.

    The Muslim Brotherhood group, founded in 1928, came to power a year ago when its Morsi was elected in the country's first free presidential elections. The election came after the overthrow of autocrat Hosni Mubarak in a popular uprising in 2011.

    The fundamentalist group has been banned for most of its 80-year history and repeatedly subjected to crackdowns under Mubarak's rule. While sometimes tolerated and its leaders part of the political process, members regularly faced long bouts of imprisonment and arbitrary detentions.


    http://news.msn.com/world/egyptian-i...-more-protests

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    Here are the top 10 American corporations profiting from Egypt's military

    The irony is thick: Obama calls on Egypt’s interim government to stop its bloody crackdown on protesters, but continues to give it $1.3 billion a year in military aid.

    
For decades, Egypt has been one of the largest recipients of US foreign military aid, receiving everything from F-16s to teargas grenades.


    So who are the companies reaping the benefits?


    The list below were the 10 biggest US Defense contracts involving direct military aid to Egypt from 2009 to 2011, according to The Ins ute for Southern Studies.


    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...ilitary-us-aid

    ... which needs to complemented by how much these 10 companies give to Congress, esp which states, districts have the most employees for these 10 companies.



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    And we are paying and arming the guys doing the killing. Wonder how many more anti-US jihadists we are gonna create there? Mubarek isn't looking so bad now.


    Its beyond me why we havent cut off aid to this ing military coup.

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    In Egypt, the Military Is the Only Chance

    By Andrew C. McCarthy
    August 17, 2013 10:06 AM


    To add to Stanley’s sage observations (both today and earlier this week), I argue in this weekend’s column that elections are not democracy and, in fact, that popular elections in a sharia culture that inevitably empower Islamic supremacists are innately anti-democratic – which is why our commentariat ought to stop referring to Mohamed Morsi as Egypt’s “democratically elected” president. He is (or was) the popularly-elected in an anti-democratic society.

    Whether or not you choose to call Morsi’s ouster a “coup,” governance under the supervision of the Egyptian military is the only chance that Egypt has of reversing its slide into failed state-dom – it’s not a great chance, but it’s the only chance. As the editors argued this week, we should support Egypt’s armed forces. And I contend at the end of the column that, in light of the available choices – rule by Islamic supremacists or rule by the military – it is a shame that there is any doubt about where America stands.

    It is going to get uglier in Egypt. Islamic supremacists continue taking their anger and resentment out on Christians, with dozens of churches having been torched and many having been killed. The Brothers are also torturing and killing suspected government informants. Meanwhile, the Arab press is reporting that Ammar Badi, the son of the Brotherhood’s “Supreme Guide” Mohammed Badi, was shot and killed Friday in the fighting in Cairo. I wrote about Badi in Spring Fever. For example:


    In October 2010, just before the “Arab Spring” dominos started falling in Tunis, the Brotherhood’s Supreme Guide, Mohammed Badi, had given a speech calling for violent jihad against the United States. Specifically, Badi admonished that Muslims must remember “Allah’s commandment to wage jihad for His sake with [their] money and lives, so that Allah’s word will reign supreme and the infidels’ word will be inferior.” Applying this injunction, Badi exclaimed that jihad, or “resistance,” “is the only solution against the Zio-American arrogance and tyranny.” On went the invective: The United States had been wounded by jihadists in Iraq and Afghanistan; thus, Badi gleefully surmised, America “is now experiencing the beginning of its end, and is heading towards its demise.”

    How could the Obama administration allow things to get to a point where authentic Egyptian democrats – who are a besieged minority – would justifiably believe, to their stunned dismay, that the United States is aligned with Badi and the Brothers, committed enemies of America and the West?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...rew-c-mccarthy

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    Its beyond me why we havent cut off aid to this ing military coup.
    Ties With Egypt Army Constrain Washington

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/world/middleeast/us-officials-fear-losing-an-eager-ally-in-the-egyptian-military.html?from=homepage


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    I would have preferred the US stay out of it completely and not take either side.

    Then again, that's not something 'Murica likes doing.

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    watching conservatives stand up for Mubarak now it's kinda hilarious, after fully supporting uprooting Saddam in Iraq and the amount of civilian deaths that spawned.

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    The cold hard fact is that when that "democracy" has as its goal to enact Sharia law, you have to crush it if you have the chance. Majority rule is a bad thing if you have more crazed voters than not.
    So you wanted to go to the mat for the dictator.

    Worked out really well in Iran tbh.

    The Brotherhood got ousted without US intervention and now you want to cut off aid to those who did it?

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    [B]In Egypt, the Military Is the Only Chance
    Duh. Every government in modern Egypt has served at the pleasure of the military.

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