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    Chump!!!! man, wrong thread for this.

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    oil. Oil is bad according to Al Gore and climate change enthusiasts so we don't need Egypt and the rest of the Middle East.
    So an increase in the price of oil and oil based products like plastics, that's something you'd be ok with as long as he US took an isolationist policy where we forego our strategic interests in the ME?

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    Oil prices are already jumping because of the strategic threat to the Suez Canal. Of course, Chump says there is nothing to worry about.

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    Eh, it was closed for eight years one time.

    The world didn't end.

    I guess everyone gave up on explaining how to hijack det ship except blowing it up with a rifle from four miles away.

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    Eh, it was closed for eight years one time.

    The world didn't end.

    I guess everyone gave up on explaining how to hijack det ship except blowing it up with a rifle from four miles away.
    God you are a buffoon.

    Scenario one: muslim brotherhood sleeper/s in the crew that mutiny and take over the ship, or even a ship captain loyal to the cause.

    Scenario two: Helicopter assault.

    Scenario three. Water assault with grapple cannons.

    Scenario four. A renegade pilot in the Egyptian air force drop a missile on one.

    Scenario five: A silkworm missile bought on the black market or acquired from Iran

    Scenario six: 13% of the worlds LNG travels through the Suez Canal. These things are floating bombs and could be knocked out easily by a tank or a tow missile (from Libya).

    That's just off the top of my head chumpster.

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    UK Ambassador: Obama's Cairo Speech Set Stage for Egypt Disaster




    By making this major speech in Egypt, the largest country in the so-called Arab world, he wanted to signal a clean break with nasty right-wing American policies (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran) and proclaim a new start based not on military might and intervention but rather on ‘dialogue.’

    Not necessarily a bad idea. But it needed doing guilefully. Dialogue is often good. The problem is what to say, and what the other side hears. And then what to do if the other side isn’t really listening, or doesn’t like what it hears.

    The Cairo speech opened on a weird note:

    "I’m also proud to carry with me the goodwill of the American people, and a greeting of peace from Muslim communities in my country: Assalaamu alaykum." (Applause.)

    What? Why is the President of the United States carrying a greeting of peace from U.S. Muslim communities? What about Christian or Buddhist or indeed atheist communities?

    What does this opening say to non-Muslims in the U.S.A. and in the Middle East alike?

    Then we get this:

    "I’ve come here to Cairo to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world, one based on mutual interest and mutual respect, and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in compe ion."

    Why is he putting America and Islam in the same categories? The more so when he goes on to say this:

    "I know there are many — Muslim and non-Muslim — who question whether we can forge this new beginning . . . Some suggest that it isn’t worth the effort — that we are fated to disagree, and civilizations are doomed to clash."

    Then we get the ritual rehearsal of the scientific triumphs of an earlier Islam. This strikes me as implicitly patronizing. Yes, centuries ago Islam achieved huge strides. But then what happened?

    The speech does not mention the ruinous civilizational consequences — closely analyzed by the United Nations in its landmark 2002 Report — of the systemic failure down the centuries to translate non-Islamic books into Arabic.



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    http://www.newsmax.com/GlobalTalk/Ob...7/17/id/515639

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    God you are a buffoon.

    Scenario one: muslim brotherhood sleeper/s in the crew that mutiny and take over the ship, or even a ship captain loyal to the cause.

    Scenario two: Helicopter assault.

    Scenario three. Water assault with grapple cannons.

    Scenario four. A renegade pilot in the Egyptian air force drop a missile on one.

    Scenario five: A silkworm missile bought on the black market or acquired from Iran

    Scenario six: 13% of the worlds LNG travels through the Suez Canal. These things are floating bombs and could be knocked out easily by a tank or a tow missile (from Libya).

    That's just off the top of my head chumpster.
    You act like the canal is a lawless war zone where folk can just drive a tank thousands of miles from Libya and just start shooting missiles at ship convoys.

    I'm also trying to figure out what end would sinking a ship in the canal achieve for the Brotherhood. Would it actually help them win any popular support?

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    Chump the buffoon.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...-supplies.html

    After last week’s bloody crackdown by the Egyptian army, fears of a disruption of oil supplies to the West have boosted the oil price. Brent crude prices were propelled to a four-month high of $111.23 on Thursday. If the turmoil gets worse – or unrest spreads to other countries – the risk premium currently factored into the price of crude is likely to increase further.
    Egypt is not a major energy exporter, producing a nominal amount of the world’s oil and gas. The North African country appears at number 54 on the list of the world’s largest oil exporters, producing about 0.9pc of the world’s oil and 1.8pc of global natural gas supply.
    However, Egypt plays a vital role in international energy markets through the operation of the Suez Canal and the Suez-Mediterranean (Sumed) pipeline. These are vital pieces of infrastructure in the global oil market.
    Last year, about 7pc of all seaborne traded oil and 13pc of liquefied natural gas (LNG) travelled through the Suez Canal, according to data collected by the US Energy Information Administration (EIA).
    The Suez Canal, a 101-mile link between the Red Sea and the Mediterranean, and the 200-mile Sumed pipeline are strategic routes for Persian Gulf oil and gas shipments to Europe and North America.
    Closure of these two routes would add an estimated 2,700 miles of transit from Saudi Arabia to the United States around the Cape of Good Hope, increasing costs and shipping time.
    Hopes are high, however, that both the canal and pipeline will continue to operate as normal. Maritime insurers appear to be relaxed about the situation at the moment, but one, Skuld, has warned ships’ crews not to go ashore.
    “Members are advised to ensure that ships and crew calling at Egyptian ports or transiting the Suez Canal remain on alert and take suitable precautions to ensure their safety,” Christian Ott, Skuld’s vice-president, head of claims, said. “Given the announcement of the state of emergency, and the continued situation on the ground, vessels and crew need to exercise particular caution if any crew step ashore – even for short periods of time.”

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    Chump the buffoon.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...-supplies.html

    After last week’s bloody crackdown by the Egyptian army, fears of a disruption of oil supplies to the West have boosted the oil price. Brent crude prices were propelled to a four-month high of $111.23 on Thursday. If the turmoil gets worse – or unrest spreads to other countries – the risk premium currently factored into the price of crude is likely to increase further.
    Egypt is not a major energy exporter, producing a nominal amount of the world’s oil and gas. The North African country appears at number 54 on the list of the world’s largest oil exporters, producing about 0.9pc of the world’s oil and 1.8pc of global natural gas supply.
    However, Egypt plays a vital role in international energy markets through the operation of the Suez Canal and the Suez-Mediterranean (Sumed) pipeline. These are vital pieces of infrastructure in the global oil market.
    Last year, about 7pc of all seaborne traded oil and 13pc of liquefied natural gas (LNG) travelled through the Suez Canal, according to data collected by the US Energy Information Administration (EIA).
    The Suez Canal, a 101-mile link between the Red Sea and the Mediterranean, and the 200-mile Sumed pipeline are strategic routes for Persian Gulf oil and gas shipments to Europe and North America.
    Closure of these two routes would add an estimated 2,700 miles of transit from Saudi Arabia to the United States around the Cape of Good Hope, increasing costs and shipping time.
    Hopes are high, however, that both the canal and pipeline will continue to operate as normal. Maritime insurers appear to be relaxed about the situation at the moment, but one, Skuld, has warned ships’ crews not to go ashore.
    “Members are advised to ensure that ships and crew calling at Egyptian ports or transiting the Suez Canal remain on alert and take suitable precautions to ensure their safety,” Christian Ott, Skuld’s vice-president, head of claims, said. “Given the announcement of the state of emergency, and the continued situation on the ground, vessels and crew need to exercise particular caution if any crew step ashore – even for short periods of time.”
    So the insurers aren't even alarmed at this point?

    Nice.

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    I guess everyone gave up on explaining how to hijack det ship except blowing it up with a rifle from four miles away.

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    God you are a buffoon.

    Scenario one: muslim brotherhood sleeper/s in the crew that mutiny and take over the ship, or even a ship captain loyal to the cause.

    Scenario two: Helicopter assault.

    Scenario three. Water assault with grapple cannons.

    Scenario four. A renegade pilot in the Egyptian air force drop a missile on one.

    Scenario five: A silkworm missile bought on the black market or acquired from Iran

    Scenario six: 13% of the worlds LNG travels through the Suez Canal. These things are floating bombs and could be knocked out easily by a tank or a tow missile (from Libya).

    That's just off the top of my head chumpster.
    Tom Clancy fan

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    Where's the container ship exploding properties of your gun? I couldn't find any.

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    No . Dude thinks the Suez canal is vulnerable to every form of attack because he drove by the Brownsville ship channel one day.

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    Where's the container ship exploding properties of your gun? I couldn't find any.

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    No . Dude thinks the Suez canal is vulnerable to every form of attack because he drove by the Brownsville ship channel one day.
    Uhhh chump, you stupid is showing again. The canal has already been intentionally blocked by sinking ships in it once.

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    Uhhh chump, you stupid is showing again. The canal has already been intentionally blocked by sinking ships in it once.
    The Egyptian government sunk 40 ships to block it.

    What are the chances they do that now?

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    The government wouldn't block the canal, the Arab Brotherhood terrorists would after they are outlawed by the Egyptian government.. And ships are a lot ing bigger now. If you think it can't possibly be done you really are a stupid ass.

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    The government wouldn't block the canal, the Arab Brotherhood terrorists would after they are outlawed by the Egyptian government.
    I already asked what that would accomplish. If they want to rule Egypt with any popular support it seems that would be one of the last things they would want to do.
    And ships are a lot ing bigger now. If you think it can't possibly be done you really are a stupid ass.
    Possible? I guess, though not as easy as you want it to be.

    Likely? Extremely not.

    lol grappling cannons

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    It's got nothing to do with what I want or don't want. It is your contemptuous refusal to acknowledge that an attack is feasible and possible. As the political arm of the Brotherhood comes unraveled the radicals will start striking back at the government just like they were blowing up pipelines in Iraq faster than they could fix them for awhile.

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    It's got nothing to do with what I want or don't want. It is your contemptuous refusal to acknowledge that an attack is feasible and possible. As the political arm of the Brotherhood comes unraveled the radicals will start striking back at the government just like they were blowing up pipelines in Iraq faster than they could fix them for awhile.
    Well, they've had 85 years to do it, being declared illegal several times during that period.

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    It's got nothing to do with what I want or don't want. It is your contemptuous refusal to acknowledge that an attack is feasible and possible. As the political arm of the Brotherhood comes unraveled the radicals will start striking back at the government just like they were blowing up pipelines in Iraq faster than they could fix them for awhile.
    All you have demonstrated is that you read too many Clancy novels and watch too much TV and movies. It's laughable to say the least.

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    I've been looking -- are grappling cannons really a thing?

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    And I love conflating a pipeline that travels thousands of miles and the Suez canal with Tom Clancy dramatics.

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    And I love conflating a pipeline that travels thousands of miles and the Suez canal with Tom Clancy dramatics.
    Speaking of which, there is also a pipeline alternative to the canal that still has about 1/3 of its capacity unused.

    And it also hasn't been attacked since it was built.

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    Why don't you guys quit flirting and just go ahead and suck each other off?

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