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    Obama could end the Patriot Act by threatening Congress or using an executive order. Obama won't end the Patriot Act because he's a to the military industrial complex just like Bush. Obama loves the Patriot Act, NDAA, drones, illegal wiretaps and surveillance, and Gitmo. When he was candidate Obama, he hated those things and strongly opposed them. His supporters and sperm drinkers also opposed those things in 2008 but now blindly support them.

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    Obama could end the Patriot Act by threatening Congress or using an executive order.
    absurd. what makes you think so?

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    Because I said so. But anyways, Obama is a joke on this stuff. Liberals should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this piece of .

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    absurd. what makes you think so?
    Because I said so.
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    Boutons beat me to it lol


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    Today our colleague Barton Gellman released new do ents that contradicted Obama’s claims.

    Gellman obtained an audit of the NSA’s compliance record from NSA leaker Snowden earlier this summer. The audit, dated May 2012, counted 2,776 incidents in the preceding 12 months where the agency engaged in “unauthorized collection, storage, access to or distribution of legally protected communications.” The audit only covered issues at NSA facilities in the D.C. and Fort Meade areas.

    Most of those incidents were unintended, involving either violations of standard operations or failures of due diligence. But others were more serious.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-he-was-wrong/

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    NSA broke privacy rules thousands of times per year, audit finds

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    James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, has acknowledged that the court found the NSA in breach of the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures, but the Obama administration has fought a Freedom of Information lawsuit that seeks the opinion.
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...125_story.html

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    Obama could end the Patriot Act by threatening Congress or using an executive order. Obama won't end the Patriot Act because he's a to the military industrial complex just like Bush. Obama loves the Patriot Act, NDAA, drones, illegal wiretaps and surveillance, and Gitmo. When he was candidate Obama, he hated those things and strongly opposed them. His supporters and sperm drinkers also opposed those things in 2008 but now blindly support them.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_867851.html

    that's the moment i knew he was a liar. that's the only thing i wanted a candidate to "change" was our police state cons ution. it didn't happen.

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    Why Would the NSA Want to Spy on Millions of Americans?


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    How to trap a whistleblower

    Last week, President Obama misled the public when he told a comedian Jay Leno that protected legal channels exist that Edward Snowden could have used to challenge government misconduct:

    I can tell you that there are ways, if you think that the government is abusing a program, of coming forward. In fact, I, through Executive Order, signed whistleblower protection for intelligence officers or people who are involved in the intelligence industry.

    This message is false. And the President repeated it at his press conference a few days later. Obama is referring to Presidential Policy Directive #19. If the President had bothered to read his own Executive Order, he would have known that it was not implemented at all when Snowden blew the whistle on the National Security Agency. Further, it fails to provide protected legal channels to contractor positions such as Snowden’s.

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    http://www.salon.com/2013/08/16/how_...whistleblower/

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    Glenn Greenwald's partner detained at Heathrow airport for nine hours

    David Miranda, partner of Guardian interviewer of whistleblower Edward Snowden, questioned under Terrorism Act
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ained-heathrow

    God save the queen and her fascist regime.

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    Obama administration asks Supreme Court to allow warrantless cellphone searches
    By Timothy B. Lee, Updated: August 19, 2013

    If the police arrest you, do they need a warrant to rifle through your cellphone? Courts have been split on the question. Last week the Obama administration asked the Supreme Court to resolve the issue and rule that the Fourth Amendment allows warrantless cellphone searches.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...rches/?print=1

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    The entire presidency of Obama has been a dog and pony show. He feigns outrage and concern over things but nothing happens. He's not running again. He's just trying to get through this term alive. He's not going to go out of his way to do anything substantial. How shocking.

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    Should the 4th Amendment be limitless though?

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    Obama sets plans to improve privacy in NSA surveillance

    President Obama announced a series of moves on Friday to improve privacy protections within National Security Agency surveillance programs and better explain to the public how they operate




    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...lance/2635735/

    Greenwald said this on national broadcast television — twice — as a weak and false excuse for why perhaps Snowden fled the country to Hong Kong and Russia. The longest sentence handed down in this “war on whistleblowers” was 30 months, which is currently being served by John Kiriakou who blew the whistle on CIA torture, and who was prosecuted for outing the names of CIA officers. Elsewhere, yes, Bradley Manning could face up to 90 years in prison, but he hasn’t been sentenced yet. Even if he received the maximum sentence, he would be the first and only leaker to be imprisoned “for decades.”
    It looks like "war on whistleblowers" is in full swing: new longest sentence: Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years in Wikileaks case

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    Boutons beat me to it lol



    like I said before, we are living in the twilight zone

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    like I said before, we are living in the twilight zone
    things might work out if media do their job, but i doubt it, like diet Pravda tbh. gotta give it up for the partisan hacks, still .

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    things might work out if media do their job, but i doubt it, like diet Pravda tbh. gotta give it up for the partisan hacks, still .
    we are living in a farm. We are no more than cows/sheep/chickens. The mainstream media are the handlers. they direct us everywhich way is necessary.

    we all need to face the reality that we are nothing but another type of farm animal, no we don't produce meat or eggs, we produce certain amount of labor(like an ox) but most importantly our most important product is 1 single vote each election and the ability to reproduce to create more votes.

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    Obama, Obama, Obama...I've already proven that the Intelligence Committee members knew about the NSA spy program and kept it from Congress too

    Where is that outrage? And then there is this..

    NSA has collected Verizon phone records since 2006, lawmakers say
    http://www.tampabay.com/news/nation/...rs-say/2125337


    So why is the media going crazy over it now? The answer is simple. They want to drown Obama in fake scandals.

    But don't let this 7-year-old story stop you from being outraged and dancing to the media's tune.

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    As far as Greenwald...anyone remember this?



    http://theobamadiary.com/2013/06/06/rise-and-shine-521/

    Yes, all the usual suspects and those riding the gravy train.

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    Let's all just pretend 9/11 never happened,,,

    "Is it just me or does the entire news media — as well as all the agitators and self-righteous bloviators on both sides of the aisle — not understand even the rudiments of electronic intercepts and the manner in which law enforcement actually uses such intercepts? It would seem so."

    snip**

    "The question is not should the resulting data exist. It does. And it forever will, to a greater and greater extent. And therefore, the present-day question can’t seriously be this: Should law enforcement in the legitimate pursuit of criminal activity pretend that such data does not exist. The question is more fundamental: Is government accessing the data for the legitimate public safety needs of the society, or are they accessing it in ways that abuse individual liberties and violate personal privacy — and in a manner that is unsupervised.

    And to that, the Guardian and those who are wailing jeremiads about this pretend-discovery of U.S. big data collection are noticeably silent. We don’t know of any actual abuse. No known illegal wiretaps, no indications of FISA-court approved intercepts of innocent Americans that occurred because weak probable cause was acceptable. Mark you, that stuff may be happening. As happens the case with all law enforcement capability, it will certainly happen at some point, if it hasn’t already. Any data asset that can be properly and legally invoked, can also be misused — particularly without careful oversight. But that of course has always been the case with electronic surveillance of any kind.
    http://davidsimon.com/we-are-shocked-shocked/

    We wouldl have another 30 years of Republican rule if Obama shut down this program and then an attack occurred because the mantra would be 'Democrats are soft on terror!'
    Last edited by Nbadan; 08-21-2013 at 09:58 PM.

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    O WORLD! George W. Bush illegally spied on American citizens. Read all about it.

    AT&T Whistleblower: Telecom Immunity Is A Cover-Up
    By Spencer Ackerman - Nov 7, 2007
    http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004662.php

    NSA Monitors All Web Traffic, Says Ex-AT&T Employee
    Tom Corelis (Blog) - Nov 10, 2007
    http://www.dailytech.com/NSA+Monitor...rticle9620.htm

    Judge Orders Telecommunications Companies to Preserve Evidence in Government Surveillance Cases
    Ruling Advances EFF's Class-action Lawsuit Against AT&T
    http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2007/11/06

    PBS FRONTLINE: Spying on the Homefront
    Get the story on Frontline: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront

    The laws as he inherited them

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    Should the 4th Amendment be limitless though?
    I think we pretty much compromised all the Cons ution when we renditioned and tortured innocent Afghan and Iraqi civilians and allowed illegal spying by Telcoms...


    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    Sound familiar?

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    Let's all just pretend 9/11 never happened,,,



    http://davidsimon.com/we-are-shocked-shocked/

    We would have another 30 years of Republican rule if Obama shut down this program and then an attack occurred because the mantra would be 'Democrats are soft on terror!'
    So the only way Democrats can rule is if they behave exactly like Republicans? I mean i guess there is no way a Democrat would win campaigning on "change" from republican policy.

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    O WORLD! George W. Bush illegally spied on American citizens. Read all about it.

    AT&T Whistleblower: Telecom Immunity Is A Cover-Up
    By Spencer Ackerman - Nov 7, 2007
    http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004662.php

    NSA Monitors All Web Traffic, Says Ex-AT&T Employee
    Tom Corelis (Blog) - Nov 10, 2007
    http://www.dailytech.com/NSA+Monitor...rticle9620.htm

    Judge Orders Telecommunications Companies to Preserve Evidence in Government Surveillance Cases
    Ruling Advances EFF's Class-action Lawsuit Against AT&T
    http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2007/11/06

    PBS FRONTLINE: Spying on the Homefront
    Get the story on Frontline: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront

    The laws as he inherited them
    Ah yes poor Obama. It's the laws he inherited from Bush or given by the congress, his hands are completely tied, there is no way he can do anything to change how they are executed. Just following the laws and the orders, like a good little nazi that he is.

    But you know what, he can really stick it to the congress and pardon Manning! Or are his hands tied in this matter also?

    Btw, how do you manage to type with Obama's in your mouth?

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