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    You can PER all you want. We've all seen Manu play the last few seasons.

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    Thanks as always for the translation, Nono.

    Manu has indeed mellowed with age, and I think it shows in his play and his fire-in-the-belly. Having said that, I think it is now up to the coaching staff to teach him how to stay on the court while playing at a higher level. He doesn't seem to know how to adjust his game to his slightly lower ability level. If they could help him with that, I believe he could be terrific again, but it won't happen as long as he keeps expecting his body to do the same thing it used to do whenever he wanted it to. It just can't, so he needs to stop asking it to do what he used to do. He needs to learn to ask it to do something else. And the coaches need to help him do that.

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    I wonder how the interviews will read if he continues to suck?

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    Thanks for the translation.

    Key for Manu next season is being healthy, obviously. But one aspect that, I think, he needs to work on this offseason is his shooting stroke. For sure, he'll still be our team's backup playmaker as the FO apparently didn't address that, though I hope Kawhi/Cory gets to play that role. But I believe and hope that Pop utilize him more as a spot-up shooter. Nervous but still excited for what Manu could still do for the team next season.

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    Well at least that interview explains his ty English...he doesn't associate w/ anyone while he's in SA

    Damn,thats sad as f**k...considering how much some people here consider Manu essential Spurs fabric etc..

    No props to anyone but the other Big 2 and Pop...

    Screw him,he shoulda takin' his USA hatin' ass and his ty game back to Argentina,seriously he's DONE

    Take soft ass Splitter w/ him,once Timmy retires that Splitter is gonna be revealed to be an even softer mangina than he is already

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    key to manu is to stay healthy and realize what he is capable of doing and not trying to do to much
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    Thank you for the translation.

    I am with Hater, Yacht, and a few others. Manu has lost some of his edge. Call it mellowing with age... Denial and not focusing on his real deficiencies....

    I guarantee Tim is madder than a hornet and ready to go after James. Manu needs a reality check.
    Basing your argument off an assumption.

    In other words, you're stupid as . Nothing new here.

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    Well at least that interview explains his ty English...he doesn't associate w/ anyone while he's in SA

    Damn,thats sad as f**k...considering how much some people here consider Manu essential Spurs fabric etc..

    No props to anyone but the other Big 2 and Pop...

    Screw him,he shoulda takin' his USA hatin' ass and his ty game back to Argentina,seriously he's DONE

    Take soft ass Splitter w/ him,once Timmy retires that Splitter is gonna be revealed to be an even softer mangina than he is already
    Not sure if very stupid or solid troll'n.

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    Looking at it from the view of a man - Manu sounds like a quality person who has his priorities straight.


    Looking at it from the view of a die-hard Spurs fan who wants the Spurs to in annihilate their opponents and up this little Lebron "mini-dynasty" and beat the outta their opponents - Manu should retire and take his pussy at ude with him, Spurs are ed. Pop has the same losing and all-but defeated at ude also.

    When you think back to the past where there were famous quotes like, "winning isn't everything - it's the only thing!"

    And now - with Pop - basically - happy when he loses - and infecting his team with this at ude and ...

    Manu: "You can't stay mad. Emotionally, they leveled me. Five or ten years ago, end up getting eliminated in a Finals like that would've been dramatic; now it was 48 hours and life goes on."


    As a spurs fan - we ed!

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    Not sure if very stupid or solid troll'n.
    The former I'm guessing. Brilliant post!

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    Yay! Actual new news from the Spurs. Been a long Summer already. Manu sounds ready to go and has his head on straight. If being a family man has killed some of his drive/passion, then Manu might have slipped a notch. He is still a seasoned vet with the ability to take over a game.
    Thanks for taking the time to translate EN.

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    The former I'm guessing. Brilliant post!
    Or the latter, ya never know around here

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    Three separate strains in four months after never having a single one in his whole career?

    And people still write or say "if/when Manu's healthy . . . "

    He won't be.

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    thanks to ElNono for the translation. i think that was Manu's best interview yet, sounds like he is very slowly coming to the realization that he really the bed this season. It happens.
    Looking at it from the view of a man - Manu sounds like a quality person who has his priorities straight.


    Looking at it from the view of a die-hard Spurs fan who wants the Spurs to in annihilate their opponents and up this little Lebron "mini-dynasty" and beat the outta their opponents - Manu should retire and take his pussy at ude with him, Spurs are ed. Pop has the same losing and all-but defeated at ude also.

    When you think back to the past where there were famous quotes like, "winning isn't everything - it's the only thing!"

    And now - with Pop - basically - happy when he loses - and infecting his team with this at ude and ...

    Manu: "You can't stay mad. Emotionally, they leveled me. Five or ten years ago, end up getting eliminated in a Finals like that would've been dramatic; now it was 48 hours and life goes on."


    As a spurs fan - we ed!
    I believe it is Pat Riley who always said "there's winning and there's misery." I think he realizes what is at stake and what it takes. Pop always acts like he's above this , like some tenured prof, yet still wants to get paid the big bucks. I've been a fan of Riles since I was a kid so props to him for tasting victory again, having the right stuff to get it done.

    I still can see Pop's face when he hugged Lebron after the Finals. There's a fine line between showing respect and class in losing but not acting like you want to suck the opponent's .


    As for Manu, I highly doubt he will justify this contract on the court, similar to the previous contract. Obviously Manu was an absolute steal early on, but now I think he justifies the contract off the court by helping the Spurs brand grow to Central and South Americans. If you see how bat insane the CoM are on this site, you realize it's important to keeping Manu happy and keeping that segment happy as well. Probably not conducive to winning, but from a business perspective it makes some sense.

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    thanks to ElNono for the translation. i think that was Manu's best interview yet, sounds like he is very slowly coming to the realization that he really the bed this season. It happens.

    I believe it is Pat Riley who always said "there's winning and there's misery." I think he realizes what is at stake and what it takes. Pop always acts like he's above this , like some tenured prof, yet still wants to get paid the big bucks. I've been a fan of Riles since I was a kid so props to him for tasting victory again, having the right stuff to get it done.

    I still can see Pop's face when he hugged Lebron after the Finals. There's a fine line between showing respect and class in losing but not acting like you want to suck the opponent's .


    As for Manu, I highly doubt he will justify this contract on the court, similar to the previous contract. Obviously Manu was an absolute steal early on, but now I think he justifies the contract off the court by helping the Spurs brand grow to Central and South Americans. If you see how bat insane the CoM are on this site, you realize it's important to keeping Manu happy and keeping that segment happy as well. Probably not conducive to winning, but from a business perspective it makes some sense.

    Yeah, I am all for Pop's maturity and sense of perspective --- IN LIFE ---

    Which is why I have felt that Pop should have stepped back to an office position in the organization. As far as life - Pop - is a pretty evolved person and I can't argue that he is living at a pretty high level and has evolved to a state where life is above a game.

    Unfortunately - this is a high stakes game - and if you are going to lead a SPORTS FRANCHISE - please hire a YOUNG HUNGRY COACH with something left to prove and win some in' les and let the "evolved" people sit on the sidelines and watch.

    Spurs are ed as long as wise old man Pop is running the show.

    Props to Pop and his PAST accomplishments - but this should be about WINNING RIGHT NOW!

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    Wade teaming up with trainer Tim Grover again, wants you to know he’s not done

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    Getty Images We’ve said it before and I imagine we will say it many more times: If the Miami Heat are going to three-peat they are going to need to a healthy and improved Dwyane Wade this season and in the playoffs. They are going to need some other things as well, but Wade is a huge key.
    He knows it. And he’s taking steps to get there.
    We told you he was getting back into workouts now that he has an shock therapy on the tendonitis in his knees, now we learn that those workouts are with his former Chicago trainer Tim Grover. You know, Michael Jordan’s trainer. This from Brian Windhorst at ESPN’s Heat Index.
    Wade has vowed that he will return a different player than he was at the end of last season, when he was limited by bone bruises and tendinitis in his knees. The 31-year-old guard averaged 21.2 points per game during the regular season, but just 15.9 PPG in the playoffs.
    “I don’t train my clients to be good as new, I want them to be better than ever,” Grover said about working with Wade again. “That’s the goal for Dwyane.”
    Wade likely will drop a few pounds and be in improved shape for this season, but will that be enough? Has he learned to adapt his game to an aging body that can’t just be explosive?
    He told the Sun-Sentinel people will doubt him but he is used to that.
    “I’m not done yet,” Wade said. “I still got more in the tank. Like I said, my focus is just to make sure physically I can do the things I need to do. My skills haven’t diminished by no stretch of the imagination….
    “You lose something as you get older, when it comes to your athleticism,” he said, “but you don’t lose your game, you don’t lose what’s up here [pointing to his head]. My job, my whole life, I’ve always had that kind of doubter, people have always doubted me. And I don’t know how I would succeed without it. So I welcome it, and it gives me a challenge and I will see if I can live up to my challenge.”
    Wade’s spirit is willing, we will see about the flesh. http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-hes-not-done/

    Now this is the type of compe ive and winning mentality that Manu ought to have. Perhaps he once had it in him but based on his recent interview, Manu has no need to come back next season with a revenge nor does he feel the need improve on his FG%. ing Manu... smh.

    "It's not like I want to go after Lebron, or I want to get back to 40% shooting… Bah, I don't know what I averaged. But it's not fueled by revenge."

    - Manu Ginobili

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    Wade is what? 31? He should be dominating, not making excuses, tbh...

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    cue Popsucker/Manu tantrum...

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    Why does it sting? It's a ing game he is paid to play and his kids are his kids. To me it sounds like a guy that has his priorities straight.
    Damned straight. Although that made me all the more sad for Duncan seeing how badly his home life may have been at about that time. I hope his kids helped him move on quickly.

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    Wade is what? 31? He should be dominating, not making excuses, tbh...
    Exactly. Ginobili was arguably a top-10 player at 32.

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    unless i did this all wrong, manu played 884/967 games and wade 797/856. considering age I think manu will end up being the more durable player, wade is a very favorable comparison actually.

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    key to manu is to stay healthy and realize what he is capable of doing and not trying to do to much
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    Ducks with goods once again.

    that is my main beef with Manu, his tiny brain just seem incapable of recognizing that with age, he cannot do certain things on the basketball court. Every player with a few more than 3 braincells has been able to understand the simple principle of tolls of age on your basketball body and game. Manu just seems incapable of comprehending this and thus why he has irritated me to the max in the last 3-4 years. He still goes out there bumping into opponent and teamates alike at 100mph and throwing the ball to the 2nd row more often than not. Not to mention his shot is diarrhea.

    YOU DO NOT HAVE IT ANYMORE MANU. YOU HAVE NOT HAD IT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. get that through your tick argentine skull. You are significantly slower than 90% of players you face, stop playing like you are faster than them, you just look goofy as and stupid and embarrass the silver and black.

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    Thanks EN, i appriciate your time translating. great job

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    Well at least that interview explains his ty English...he doesn't associate w/ anyone while he's in SA

    Damn,thats sad as f**k...considering how much some people here consider Manu essential Spurs fabric etc..

    No props to anyone but the other Big 2 and Pop...

    Screw him,he shoulda takin' his USA hatin' ass and his ty game back to Argentina,seriously he's DONE

    Take soft ass Splitter w/ him,once Timmy retires that Splitter is gonna be revealed to be an even softer mangina than he is already
    Nuke of truth.

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    Basing your argument off an assumption.

    In other words, you're stupid as . Nothing new here.
    Laughing at the illiterate fanboi clown who called ME stupid.

    The wimp just admitted his balls shrank and his fire went out. Learn to read, dbucket.
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