Justice for Chris Lane...

[AntiChrist]

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[George Gervin's Afro]

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don't be be jealous .. you are still by far the worst thread starter on this board

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That is simply not true...

Chicago says hi!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Illinois

Chicago is a state? Oh that's right, it's a city near the border of two states other than IL.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You sure about that?

http://www.examiner.com/article/excl...-of-gun-deaths

July 13, 2013
The ten states given the highest ratings by the Brady Campaign for having the most stringent gun control legislation have about triple the amount of gun deaths compared to the ten states that have the least restrictive gun legislation, according to data compiled by the Examiner.

Using data from Slate, who has been tracking gun deaths in America since the tragic mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the Examiner also found that the Brady Campaign's highest rated state for having the most restrictive gun legislation, California, also had the highest number of gun deaths (677) since the Sandy Hook shooting.

Using Slate's figures, the Examiner tallied the numbers of gun deaths for each state, and compared them to rankings by the Brady Campaign, which gives scores by state for the most versus the least restrictive gun control laws. Notably, their scores do not include legislation passed in the past year. The Brady Campaign used data from the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence to determine state rankings.

The top ten states with the most restrictive gun laws had 2,002 gun deaths, versus the ten states with the least restrictive gun laws, which totaled 696 gun deaths. The state with the fewest restrictions on firearms (and therefore the lowest scored), Utah, has had 29 gun deaths since Sandy Hook.

If the top state for gun deaths, California, is removed entirely from the equation, the total number of gun deaths would fall to 1,325 for the states with the most stringent gun control laws, which is still a significant difference from the tally of 696 gun deaths from the top ten least restrictive gun states.

Slate's tally includes people killed by police, suicide, or criminals killed by their potential victims all in one big category. Famously, one of the people listed on Slate’s piece was Tamerlan Tsarnaev, whose name was read as a "gun violence victim" during a gun control rally sponsored by “Mayors Against Illegal Guns."

According to their most recent update (in mid-June), Slate determined that 6,095 people have been killed via firearm since Sandy Hook (and the author of the Slate piece believes the actual figure is higher, as “roughly 60 percent of deaths by gun are due to suicides,” which are rarely reported as news).

Using these sources alone, it seems that if there is any correlation to “gun deaths” and gun control laws, at the very least, it would be that the most stringent gun control legislation does not make gun deaths go down.

The focus on “gun crime” alone encourages trends related to violent crime to be ignored, such as criminal history, gang involvement, mental health history, age, gender, race, socioeconomic factors as well as proximity to urban areas. Indeed, Slate includes gender and age in their study, but dismisses these other factors.

While the figures here do not account for population (obviously, densely populated areas would be much more likely to result in more violent crime), the figures do indicate that there are other trends worth exploring if the real goal is to reduce violent crime.

aggregate numbers.

[CosmicCowboy]

Chicago is a state? Oh that's right, it's a city near the border of two states other than IL.

Is Chicago not in Illinois?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What's the big deal? He's just exercising his second amendment rights.

When will you people learn that it is a FACT that the states with the toughest gun control laws have the fewest gun deaths? You can't stop people from being bad or crazy, you can only control what means they have to exercise those "qualities".

Is Chicago not in Illinois?

Do you really need me to spell it out for you? I can use venn diagrams if that will help.

[TSA]

aggregate numbers.

Break it down state by state then.

[CosmicCowboy]

Do you really need me to spell it out for you? I can use venn diagrams if that will help.

This was the statement:

When will you people learn that it is a FACT that the states with the toughest gun control laws have the fewest gun deaths?

I refuted it.

No need to get so butthurt and start backpedaling.

District of Columbia says hi too.

[boutons_deux]

It's useless to pass city or state gun laws since guns are portable from the WildWest shoot-everybody no-reg areas to regulated areas.

[CosmicCowboy]

It's useless to pass city or state gun laws.

I agree

[boutons_deux]

I agree

federal laws are the only way.

[CosmicCowboy]

federal laws are the only way.

I'm OK with the ones we have.

[The Reckoning]

looks like it's gang related imo. maybe an initiation or something. no way they'd do that because they were "bored."

[boutons_deux]

I'm OK with the ones we have.

you're OK with 600 kids dead/year, then.

[TSA]

Trill,

PM me your address, I want to send you a gift.

http://teespring.com/i-am-chrislane

[Trill Clinton]

sad thing is, the african american community actually sympathized for trayvon and his family and genuinely cared for that boy. meanwhile you fox fanboys fellate this tragedy into some racist propoganda against obama, messy jackson and al charlatan. ya'll can give 1 for that young man gunned down by those actual and factual thugs. not the made up thug they turned trayvon into.

[TSA]

sad thing is, the african american community actually sympathized for trayvon and his family and genuinely cared for that boy. meanwhile you fox fanboys fellate this tragedy into some racist propoganda against obama, messy jackson and al charlatan. ya'll can give 1 for that young man gunned down by those actual and factual thugs. not the made up thug they turned trayvon into.

no they didn't genuinely care for Trayvon. They cared about crying racism, much like yourself. Tray on was on the same path as these three s, their Facebook pages were identical.

Ps-checked my inbox, where's your address?

[boutons_deux]

"Tray on was on the same path as these three s"

the bigot can see the future, criminalizng Trayvon into a murderer.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

sad thing is, the african american community actually sympathized for trayvon and his family and genuinely cared for that boy. meanwhile you fox fanboys fellate this tragedy into some racist propoganda against obama, messy jackson and al charlatan. ya'll can give 1 for that young man gunned down by those actual and factual thugs. not the made up thug they turned trayvon into.

truth bombs. They don't give a damn about Chris Lane, they're just puppets of right wing demagogues who've told them to stomp their feet and throw a temper tantrum over this.

[CosmicCowboy]

truth bombs. They don't give a damn about Chris Lane, they're just puppets of right wing demagogues who've told them to stomp their feet and throw a temper tantrum over this.

Just like you were a puppet for Al and Jesse who told you to give a about angel trayvon.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Just like you were a puppet for Al and Jesse who told you to give a about angel trayvon.

your only defense being "I'm rubber you're glue!" because you had no other counter argument

[exstatic]

Break it down state by state then.

2010 Gun deaths per 100,000
NY 4.4
IL 3.5
CA 4.9
TX 5.0
LA 9.6
SC 6.1
TN 5.6
GA 5.3
FL 5.0

[Trill Clinton]

your only defense being "I'm rubber you're glue!" because you had no other counter argument

[CosmicCowboy]

No, it's because your premise is stupid and ed up and there is no sense arguing it.

For you to ascribe thoughts and motives in a broad sweeping brush to people you don't know is just ignorant.

But then, thats how you and Trill and Creepn roll.

[AntiChrist]

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