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imo tbqh fwiw he has yet to prove himself in NBA play
Hey, I know the overall opinion of Nando (on Spurstalk) is not incredibly high. I certainly don't think he was actively bad, but he rarely made a positive impact. To me when he was in the game, he seemed like a place holder. But I was wondering what do you guys think of his potential to improve, specifically from his first season to the second. Pop is notorious for bringing players along slowly and limiting their minutes until they have a good amount of experience in the system. We all remember being so excited about Splitter, but due to his inexperience (and injuries) he really didn't crack the rotation in his first year.
Does anyone expect Nando to have a "breakout" performance next year and truly crack the rotation? Essentially, due any of you think the main hindrance of his effectiveness was inexperience as opposed to a lack of ability. If so, why?
imo tbqh fwiw he has yet to prove himself in NBA play
i always thought he was a bad signing, but i like him better than belinelli, that's for sure.
Until he can consistently make a jump shot he is in the lowest tier in the NBA. Barely good enough to make a roster. As a tweener, he's got to be able to shoot well enough to be a shooting guard.
I was sort of a fan of Nando before he started complaining and before Joseph proved to be a better prospect.
If the Spurs do plan on bringing in another point guard, I hope one of Mills/De Colo is traded, though I would prefer keeping Patty around.
You'd see pigs flying before you would Nando having a break out season. You just can't have a successful NBA career when you're not a threat to score. Nando can't shoot, create off the dribble or finish at the rim. His assist/turnover ratio is atrocious for a passing point guard and his defense is sporadic at best. Whoever coined the name "mini" Manu probably wishes he could take it back. He's way out of his depth in the NBA.
Of the mediocre guards we had last year, the only one I expect to have much of an impact this upcoming season is Gary Neal. He's going to be healthy and his confidence will be high. He's a seasoned player at the peak of his skills, warts and all. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your outlook) now he's a Buck. I like Patty, but Spurs should've spent the money on Neal and let Patty go. I don't expect much from Joseph or Nando or Mills. I don't think any of these guys is a regular day in and day out rotation player. Joseph can't shoot, Nando can't defend, both of them can be shaky with the ball, and Mills is not really a PG. Even though Belli can be a ball handler, he's not a backup PG. Once again, Spurs didn't address needs.
PlayNando should be in this thread at any moment..
His jump shot is not good, agreed. But I am wondering if his lack of playmaking and finishing at the rim could be chalked up to having to concentrate on playing inside the offense. I am not asserting that, that was definitely the case. But from what I understand Nando is a bit of a showman, and that is why the comparisons to Manu came about in the first place. I wonder if he tried too hard to "become a Spur" and his game became a bit mechanical. If that were true, if/when he gets comfortable in the offense his production would likely improve. I mean after all Parker struggled early on due to the fact that he was trying to emulate Avery Johnson. Maybe Nando tried something similar. I'm just thought someone might have that view of the situation.Nando can't shoot, create off the dribble or finish at the rim. His assist/turnover ratio is atrocious for a passing point guard and his defense is sporadic at best.
Also I think Joseph is going to step up and definitively take the back up point guard role this season. He defense is considerably strong, and his offense is progressing. He can't shoot consistently yet, but it is not out of the question for him to develop his shot, especially with Chip on staff. Plus given that he plays limited minutes, I feel as though Pop could effectively "hide" him on offense so his lack of range is not a detriment. He brings a tenacity that is needed in the second unit. I love when he picks up opposing guards full court. This sort of pestering may seem small, but it goes a long way to get opposing offenses out of rhythm and robs them of a few precious seconds to get a shot up.I don't expect much from Joseph or Nando or Mills.
He is a 3rd string guard.
Placeholder is a good way to put it.
When he first started playing for the Spurs, he showed quite a bit of promise (not as an all star or anything but as a solid role player). He seemed to have above average passing skills and court vision.
The problem is as time went on, opposing teams realized that Nando isn't capable of scoring himself. He shies away from shooting. He can't even take a big off the dribble in the pick and roll. His dribbling is slightly below average. His shooting overall is slightly below average. His 3 point shooting is fine, but again he doesn't take every open shot given to him.
Once opposing teams figured this out, his passing and above average court vision became totally nullified. It doesn't matter how well you can pass if your man is constantly sagging off you.
Incidentally, this is also the problem that modern day TOSB Manu has. He's no longer a scoring threat. He's easily discouraged from poor shooting slumps to the point where a shooting slump almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. As a result, it doesn't matter that Manu has good passing abilities because his defenders are constantly sagging off him. Yet, Manu tries to force passes anyway and this ends up in more turnovers as well. It's just a cluster all around.
I think his at ude will write his ticket out of town next summer. He seems a bit too emo and en led to be a Spur.
My opinion of him at this point is incredibly low.
I really thought he had a lot of potential, but he did a lot less than what I thought he would. I think he needs to hit the weight room hard, we all know he isn't super athletic. He has to make up for that somewhere. Improving his strength, speed, and leaping ability as much as he could would be a nice start. Also adding a consistent jump shot would be huge. I'm not completely down on him, but I do think I thought higher of him than he ever will be...
Nando has to choose his position, PG or SG.
If he chooses PG he has to learn how to attack the basket and finish.
If it is SG, he needs to learn how to shoot consistently.
Thats the key, IMO, what is his position. Does he know? Do the Spurs know?
I thought he was solid in the time he started or got more PT while Parker was out, it was around the time Pop declared he was the backup PG. I'm not sure what changed that, but I think it's all mental for Nando at this point. His confidence seemed to be high and then it just sort of came and went.
My opinion of Nando is he doesn't seem to be working on his game or improving, and his natural talents are maybe even more limited than Beno's...
I've seen him do some things that tell me he could be a top tier PG in this league under the right cir stances.
I've liked a lot what I'm seeing from De Colo with FNT this summer. If it translate with Spurs next season, he should turn as a solid contributor especially if Pop plays him at SG which is, IMO, his best spot in the NBA.
I liked Nando a lot in the beginning. I soured on him somewhat after he went into Nando De Complainer mode about his playing time.
I don't know what his ceiling is, but I've seen him make passes that only a handful of guys in the league can make. He's got true, natural talent with court vision and passing. I also have a soft spot because he seemed like he genuinely wanted to be a Spur on draft night.
If he really wants to stay with the team, improve his shooting and overall efficiency, not complain like a , then I think he could be a very valuable piece to the team.
Nando needs to have a consistent, reliable NBA 3 pointer to be effective. He is not quick enough on either end to be a pure point guard, but he can work to become a Manu-type playmaking 2 guard. He will need to have a better outside shot to make that work though. His percentage for the season wasn't bad, but he wasn't exactly a 3 point shooting threat when he was out there
I think he's a terrible option going forward because he's too old to be considered a prospect and too raw to expect enough improvement in a fast enough time to make much use out of him.
I would rather go with a random late 1st round american PG than Nando De Colo. The best thing about him is his name. His athleticism is decent and his size is good, but his skill level is quite poor. If he was a PF or C, that would be acceptable. But I want my PG's skill to be his greatest assett, then I care about athleticism, then size. Basically De Colo goes in the opposite order of best to worst assets.
Do you watch much basketball?
Could not have said it better!!
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