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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    Most rings among active playersPERIOD
    Fish re-signed with OKC, nice try tho.

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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    Just off the top of my head I checked Kevin Martin's stats, a shooting guard. He averages .16 assists per shot while Kobe averages .24 assists per shot. LOL @ the OPs bull list.

    Shaq is .15 assists per shot.
    Oh yes, Kevin Martin is such a stud and comparable to Kirby.

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    people cant seem to grasp the concept that if your bigger taller stronger, its easier to score..
    MJ was a career 49.7% (bogged down by his Wizards seasons) shooter
    Jerry West was a career 47.4% shooter (Kobe has never shot 47% for a single season)
    Oscar Robertson was a career 48.5% shooter
    Clyde Drexler was a career 47.2% shooter
    George Gervin (not including ABA seasons) was a 50+% shooter for his career
    Tony Parker, a tiny guy, is a career 49.4% shooter

    Yeah, centers shoot high %'s, but guards can be efficient too. At least, if you aren't going to be efficient, you should be willing to defer to your hyper-efficient bigs more often than Kobe does

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    Oh yes, Kevin Martin is such a stud and comparable to Kirby.
    That's strange. I would have thought Kevin Martin would be rated as a better player than Kobe here.

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    With the game on the line

    Trailing by one or two points, or tied, in the final 24 seconds of regular-season and playoff games since 1996-97, with a minimum of 30 shots. From Alok Pattani of ESPN Stats & Information.
    Player Makes Attempts FG%
    Carmelo Anthony 21 44 47.7
    Chris Paul 14 31 45.2
    Shawn Marion 12 30 40
    Brandon Roy 12 30 40
    Hedo Turkoglu 12 30 40
    Rashard Lewis 18 46 39.1
    Glenn Robinson 14 36 38.9
    Deron Williams 14 36 38.9
    Mike Bibby 15 39 38.5
    Dirk Nowitzki 25 65 38.5
    Jalen Rose 12 32 37.5
    Tim Duncan 23 62 37.1
    Eddie Jones 13 36 36.1
    Karl Malone 11 31 35.5
    Ben Gordon 17 49 34.7
    Chris Webber 18 52 34.6
    Raymond Felton 12 36 33.3
    LeBron James 23 69 33.3
    Ray Allen 23 70 32.9
    Gilbert Arenas 13 40 32.5
    Vince Carter 31 96 32.3
    Steve Francis 14 44 31.8
    Damon Stoudamire 12 38 31.6
    Nick Van Exel 16 51 31.4
    Kobe Bryant 36 115 31.3
    Jason Terry 14 45 31.1
    Allen Iverson 21 68 30.9
    Kevin Garnett 22 72 30.6
    Ron Artest 9 30 30
    Allan Houston 12 41 29.3
    Entire league 2038 6861 29.7



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    Jackson published that book in the interlude when he was not coaching the Lakers. That he doesn't talk that way is hardly bizarre -- it's admirable for a coach to keep his criticism of a colleague "in the family."

    However, don't confuse Bryant's domination of the ball with Jackson's endorsement of the plan. In the same book, Jackson tells of his annoyance at Bryant's ball-hogging in crunch time. In one instance, he describes drawing up a play with multiple options, in crunch time of a 2004 playoff series against Houston. Bryant destroyed all the options; instead of setting a baseline screen for Shaquille O'Neal he ran straight to the ball. "With the twenty-four-second clock winding down," writes Jackson, "Kobe forced a long jumper, a horrible shot in the game's most critical possession. The ball did not reach the rim..."

    Jackson also tells of marching, more than once, into Mitch Kupchak's office to demand that the Lakers trade Bryant. He writes things like:
    • "Kobe tends to hold on to the ball longer than necessary causing the offense to stagnate."
    • "He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid."
    • "As usual, Kobe seemed intent on taking over."

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    Similarly, Bryant looks like a great crunch-time scorer. He has the right skills, the right demeanor, the right highlights, the right jewelry. But as it turns out, Bryant's clutch like an SUV is safe.

    There are a lot of misleading things in this world.

    And let's be clear: The numbers that doom Bryant's campaign as the king of crunch time are not really statistics. They're not formulas, or algorithms. They're really just counting -- both makes and misses for the player and the team.

    If you're asking me to pick one guy to make a shot with the game on the line, there's nothing complex about peeking at the record to see how well he has done that job in the past. Every number in that chart is a real moment of NBA basketball, with ten players on the court, and Bryant in a Lakers uniform, rising, firing, and -- most of the time -- missing. These things really happened, and as much as you might want to ignore opinion, or theory, there's no real reason to ignore 79 misses, broken plays, a shocking lack of passing, a coaching staff eager for more team play, and an elite team that gets below-par results with the game on the line.

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    KOBE VS. LEBRON IN CLUTCH

    Kobe LeBron
    PER 37.6 47.2
    Pts/40 44.5 48.1
    FG% 43 pct. 45 pct.
    Reb/40 4.3 10.9
    Ast/40 4.3 5.6
    Steals 1.6 2.1
    Blocks 0 1.8

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    Bryant makes crunch-time defense easy for opponents by shooting just about every time he touches the ball (over a five-year period, he mustered 56 clutch shots, to go with oneassist).

    Fans of his raw machismo howl that such criticism misses the point, but the point is that when Bryant gets the ball in crunch time, it's a virtual certainty that he'll shoot it, and it's better than 2-1 odds that he'll miss.

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    1996 Utah Jazz Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot with 4 seconds left.
    1999 San Antonio Spurs Game 2 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot at the end of regulation
    2000 Phoenix Suns Game 2 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot with 2 seconds left
    2001 Philidephia 76ers Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 20 seconds left.
    2002 San Antonio Spurs Game 2 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot at regulation
    2002 San Antonio Spurs Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot with 5 seconds left
    2002 Sacramento Kings Game 4 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 4 seconds left
    2002 Sacramento Kings Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 8 seconds left
    2002 Sacramento Kings Game 7 Miss Bryant misses a game winning tip shot with 8 seconds left
    2003 Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot in OT with 13 seconds left.
    2003 Minnesota Timberwolves Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game tying shot in OT with 2 seconds left
    2003 San Antonio Spurs Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 13 seconds left.
    2004 Houston Rockets Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 17 seconds left.
    2004 Houston Rockets Game 4 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 3 seconds left.
    2004 San Antonio Spurs Game 5 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot attempt with 12 seconds left.
    2004 Detroit Pistons Game 2 Make Bryant makes a game tying shot at the buzzer.
    2006 Phoenix Suns Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game tying shot with one second left.
    2006 Phoenix Suns Game 4 Make Bryant makes a game winning shot at the buzzer.
    2006 Phoenix Suns Game 6 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 6 seconds left.
    2008 San Antonio Spurs Game 1 Make Bryant makes the game winning shot with 23 seconds left.
    2009 Utah Jazz Game 3 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 2 seconds left.
    2009 Orlando Magic Game 2 Miss Bryant has his game winning shot blocked with 8 sec left.
    2010 Oklahoma City Thunder Game 6 Miss Bryant misses game winning shot with .5 seconds left.
    2010 Phoenix Suns Game 5 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot with 3 seconds left.
    2011 Dallas Mavericks Game 1 Miss Bryant misses a game winning shot at the end of regulation

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    With his final missed FGA on Tuesday night against HOU (came with 2:27 left in the 4th quarter), Kobe Bryant missed his 15,296th career field goal attempt and passed John Havlicek for the most field goal attempts missed in NBA history if you combine regular season and postseason numbers.

    Most bricks in NBA history

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    Damn MJ is ing on whitemamba so hard he can't even reply

    *waits for lakerfan to change subject to timmy being a butt pirate*

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    Damn MJ is ing on whitemamba so hard he can't even reply

    *waits for lakerfan to change subject to timmy being a butt pirate*
    Im waiting on whitemamba to this

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    MJ with no regard for human life on these es...you got nothing, it's OVER!


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    Outside of being on superstar loaded teams for his championships, it is very easy to knock him for his tendency to play “hero ball” and try to single-handedly bring his team back into games. If you simply look at his assists per game, as well as his field goal percentage, you can get a good look at the type of player that Bryant is. The highest amount of assists Bryant has ever recorded over the course of a season is 6.0, while in comparison the highest of LeBron James’ career is 8.6, and if you’re looking for a more direct comparison, as far as postion goes, the highest of Michael Jordan’s careerwas 8.0.
    The facts continue pouring out when you look at field goal percentage, a true measure of efficiency. The highest of MJ’scareer was. 539, and the highest of LeBron’s career was this past season, at .565. In comparison, Bryant’s careerhighest is almost a full .100 lower than James, at .469. This shows Kobe’s tendency to keep the ball to himself, and occasionally be a black hole on offense.

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