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  1. #26
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    ^ 0-for-26. I'll cut you some slack though, HI. You weren't here when we went up 5-4 over Duncan on June 17.

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    How did you feel when Kobe begged to be traded twice? You know to whom this is addressed.
    How did you feel watching Magic an Bird dominate you and other pretenders in the '80s? Did anyone think you were the GOAT then? I didn't. KAJ is the true GOAT - for the record. I've already established that you won rangs when Magic and Bird got older + NBA expansion watering down the talent. KAJ? He won 1 rang in the 70's and another 5 in the '80s. You know, a time when the NBA was rough and rugged. Not that sissified we see nowadays. Matter of fact, my Lakers didn't win another rang after he retired until Shaq/Kobe 3-peated starting in '00.

    By the way, do your stats compare to KAJ? Let's see:

    Statistics

    • Games played – 1560 (2nd most in NBA history)
    • Field goal % – 55.9 (10th highest in NBA history)
    • Rebounds – 17,440 (3rd most in NBA history)
    • Rebounds per game – 11.2 (23rd highest in NBA history)
    • Assists – 5,660 (34th in NBA history)
    • Steals – 1,160
    • Steals per game – 0.74
    • Blocks – 3,189 (3rd most in NBA history) (Note: blocks were not officially tabulated until 1973-1974 season - so some are not accounted for)
    • Blocks per game – 2.57
    • Points per game – 24.6 (14th highest in NBA history) - over a 20 year time span
    • Holds NBA career record for:
      • Most points (38,387)
      • Most field goals made (15,837)
      • Most All-Star selections (19)
      • Most All-Star games played (18)


    24.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.57 bpg over a 20 year career. All time leading scorer. They changed the game because of how dominant he was. Where you at MJ? MJ? o - is anybody there? I didn't think so. I'll put KAJ's achievements up against MJ's 24/7.


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    ^ throwin' it down on closet spurfan

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    How did you feel watching Magic an Bird dominate you and other pretenders in the '80s? Did anyone think you were the GOAT then? I didn't. KAJ is the true GOAT - for the record. I've already established that you won rangs when Magic and Bird got older + NBA expansion watering down the talent. KAJ? He won 1 rang in the 70's and another 5 in the '80s. You know, a time when the NBA was rough and rugged. Not that sissified we see nowadays. Matter of fact, my Lakers didn't win another rang after he retired until Shaq/Kobe 3-peated starting in '00.

    By the way, do your stats compare to KAJ? Let's see:

    Statistics

    • Games played – 1560 (2nd most in NBA history)
    • Field goal % – 55.9 (10th highest in NBA history)
    • Rebounds – 17,440 (3rd most in NBA history)
    • Rebounds per game – 11.2 (23rd highest in NBA history)
    • Assists – 5,660 (34th in NBA history)
    • Steals – 1,160
    • Steals per game – 0.74
    • Blocks – 3,189 (3rd most in NBA history) (Note: blocks were not officially tabulated until 1973-1974 season - so some are not accounted for)
    • Blocks per game – 2.57
    • Points per game – 24.6 (14th highest in NBA history) - over a 20 year time span
    • Holds NBA career record for:
      • Most points (38,387)
      • Most field goals made (15,837)
      • Most All-Star selections (19)
      • Most All-Star games played (18)


    24.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.57 bpg over a 20 year career. All time leading scorer. They changed the game because of how dominant he was. Where you at MJ? MJ? o - is anybody there? I didn't think so. I'll put KAJ's achievements up against MJ's 24/7.

    MJ


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    How did you feel watching Magic an Bird dominate you and other pretenders in the '80s? Did anyone think you were the GOAT then? I didn't. KAJ is the true GOAT - for the record. I've already established that you won rangs when Magic and Bird got older + NBA expansion watering down the talent. KAJ? He won 1 rang in the 70's and another 5 in the '80s. You know, a time when the NBA was rough and rugged. Not that sissified we see nowadays. Matter of fact, my Lakers didn't win another rang after he retired until Shaq/Kobe 3-peated starting in '00.

    By the way, do your stats compare to KAJ? Let's see:

    Statistics

    • Games played – 1560 (2nd most in NBA history)
    • Field goal % – 55.9 (10th highest in NBA history)
    • Rebounds – 17,440 (3rd most in NBA history)
    • Rebounds per game – 11.2 (23rd highest in NBA history)
    • Assists – 5,660 (34th in NBA history)
    • Steals – 1,160
    • Steals per game – 0.74
    • Blocks – 3,189 (3rd most in NBA history) (Note: blocks were not officially tabulated until 1973-1974 season - so some are not accounted for)
    • Blocks per game – 2.57
    • Points per game – 24.6 (14th highest in NBA history) - over a 20 year time span
    • Holds NBA career record for:
      • Most points (38,387)
      • Most field goals made (15,837)
      • Most All-Star selections (19)
      • Most All-Star games played (18)


    24.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.57 bpg over a 20 year career. All time leading scorer. They changed the game because of how dominant he was. Where you at MJ? MJ? o - is anybody there? I didn't think so. I'll put KAJ's achievements up against MJ's 24/7.



    You'd make a horrible politician

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    I wonder how Cleveland/Lebron fan felt when Lebron quit time and time again then bolted like a pussy.
    Probably the same way when Acneface couldn't win with 2 other all stars.

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    How did you feel watching Magic an Bird dominate you and other pretenders in the '80s? Did anyone think you were the GOAT then? I didn't. KAJ is the true GOAT - for the record. I've already established that you won rangs when Magic and Bird got older + NBA expansion watering down the talent. KAJ? He won 1 rang in the 70's and another 5 in the '80s. You know, a time when the NBA was rough and rugged. Not that sissified we see nowadays. Matter of fact, my Lakers didn't win another rang after he retired until Shaq/Kobe 3-peated starting in '00.

    By the way, do your stats compare to KAJ? Let's see:

    Statistics

    • Games played – 1560 (2nd most in NBA history)
    • Field goal % – 55.9 (10th highest in NBA history)
    • Rebounds – 17,440 (3rd most in NBA history)
    • Rebounds per game – 11.2 (23rd highest in NBA history)
    • Assists – 5,660 (34th in NBA history)
    • Steals – 1,160
    • Steals per game – 0.74
    • Blocks – 3,189 (3rd most in NBA history) (Note: blocks were not officially tabulated until 1973-1974 season - so some are not accounted for)
    • Blocks per game – 2.57
    • Points per game – 24.6 (14th highest in NBA history) - over a 20 year time span
    • Holds NBA career record for:
      • Most points (38,387)
      • Most field goals made (15,837)
      • Most All-Star selections (19)
      • Most All-Star games played (18)



    24.6 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 2.57 bpg over a 20 year career. All time leading scorer. They changed the game because of how dominant he was. Where you at MJ? MJ? o - is anybody there? I didn't think so. I'll put KAJ's achievements up against MJ's 24/7.

    and yet you guys have the nerve to call Kobe the greatest Laker

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    Probably the same way when Acneface couldn't win with 2 other all stars.
    And how the meth got will feel when Durant bolts to Brooklyn, Toronto, or DC.... then again, he'll just hop back on the Lakers like the closet Kirby stan he is

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    You'd make a horrible politician
    Still deflecting I see. Just admit your les should have ** and I'll drop my crusade. The fact is, you were crowned GOAT by the media - who just so happens to HATE KAJ. That's a reason why he never got a HC job when clowns like Doc Rivers or even Avery Johnson did. Your 5 MVPs - you guessed it - media award. That's why I'm surprised that Kobe even won one post Colorado.

    The best players you played against that were even remotely comparable to you athletically: Reggie Miller, Joe Dumars, Clyde Drexler, and Thunder Dan. Kobe faces players way better than them, and he has to face more complex defenses like the strong side zone Boston employed in '08 en route to a chip. There is literally nothing you did that Kobe couldn't have done if he played during your era. Thems be the facts son. Neal with them.

    **Never ever beat a Prime Bird to come out of the EC en route to even one rang. Toughest defender you ever faced in the Finals was a 6'4" PG. No team you played in the Finals was ever considered a defensive juggernaut. '08 Celtics' defense was tougher than any team you ever faced.

  11. #36
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    Still deflecting I see. Just admit your les should have ** and I'll drop my crusade. The fact is, you were crowned GOAT by the media - who just so happens to HATE KAJ. That's a reason why he never got a HC job when clowns like Doc Rivers or even Avery Johnson did. Your 5 MVPs - you guessed it - media award. That's why I'm surprised that Kobe even won one post Colorado.

    The best players you played against that were even remotely comparable to you athletically: Reggie Miller, Joe Dumars, Clyde Drexler, and Thunder Dan. Kobe faces players way better than them, and he has to face more complex defenses like the strong side zone Boston employed in '08 en route to a chip. There is literally nothing you did that Kobe couldn't have done if he played during your era. Thems be the facts son. Neal with them.

    **Never ever beat a Prime Bird to come out of the EC en route to even one rang. Toughest defender you ever faced in the Finals was a 6'4" PG. No team you played in the Finals was ever considered a defensive juggernaut. '08 Celtics' defense was tougher than any team you ever faced.
    Still haven't answered the question. How did you feel? Or you can keep on deflecting

  12. #37
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    Still haven't answered the question. How did you feel? Or you can keep on deflecting
    Not deflecting in the least. Kobe got tired of playing with bums like Kwame, Odumb, Luke Walton, Smush Parker and Brian Cook. He used his mouthpiece (Screaming A Smith) to deliver a message to the Lakers's FO that they were wasting his prime. First he had to evict a no longer motivated Shaq, then he has to play with this supporting cast? GTFO son. MJ would have done and said the same thing. I'd argue that he was worse than Kobe. Here is a little trip down memory lane:
    "We're beating a lot of poor teams. So what? We won a lot of games last year, too. Will Horace and Bill still be playing at this level in the playoffs...Can Pip keep it up?"


    "I hate being out there with those garbagemen. They don't get you the ball."


    "They've got no idea what it's all about. The white guys, they work hard, but they don't have the talent. And the rest of them? Who knows what to expect? They're not good for much of anything."


    "I know what's gonna happen. We'll wait until the last minute and then they'll say something like they couldn't get a deal done because of the cap or somebody pulled out at the last minute. It happens here all the time. I don't know why I'm surprised every year."


    "He can't do anything with the ball. Don't give it to him." - Michael yelling at Paxson who passed the ball to Perdue


    "You ever hear of a guy, six-eleven maybe and two hundred sixty pounds, a guy big and fat like that and he can't get but two rebounds, if that many, running all over the damn court and he gets two rebounds? Big guy like that and he gets one rebound. Can't even stick his ass into people and get more than that...Big, fat, fat guy. One rebound in three games. Power forward. Maybe they should call it powerless forward." - Michael ripping Stacey King a new one


    "He was scared in there and panicking. He just lost it when Stockton scored." - Michael on B.J. Armstrong's mental fragility


    I'll let them stand up and take responsibility for themselves.


    "We have to do some things. We need to make some changes."


    "...I call them 'the Looney Tunes.' Physically, they were the best. Mentally, they weren't even close."


    "He's scared. He's got no heart...Nobody told me that. If I had spoken up, he wouldn't have been here."


    "I know I can recognize what to do, but I'm not sure they can."


    "It's a of a lot easier to make Earl Monroe look good than it is Brad Sellers."


    "I hope there's a jumpshot in there." - Michael to Stacey King who was walking into the locker room with a box


    "They don't need a ticket to watch you sitting on the bench. They can go to your house for that." - Michael to Charles Davis who was sorting through his tickets for his family and friends


    "Give me the fu*king ball." - Michael to Doug Collins who drew up a play for Dave Corzine


    "I hate when I have to read that in the papers the next day, that I couldn't do something. It wasn't my fault."


    "You're an idiot. You've screwed up every play we ever ran. You're too stupid to even remember the plays. We ought to get rid of you." - Michael to Horace Grant


    "If you [pass the ball to Bill Cartwright], you'll never get the ball from me."


    "We're not winning because of talent. We're just beating bad teams."


    "Headache tonight, Scottie?" - Michael asks Scottie, while showing him his 2-for-16 line


    "It's probably a twelve-day. He needs two days to wake up." - Michael on a ten-day contract teammate


    "Five more years and I'm out of here. I'm marking these days on a calendar, like I'm in jail. I'm tired of being used by this organization, by the league, by the writers, by everyone."


    "They're not interested in winning. They just want to sell tickets, which they can do because of me. They won't make any deals to make us better. And this Kukoc thing. I hate that. They're spending all their time chasing this guy."


    "If I were a general manager, we'd be a better team."


    "Will Vanderbilt. He doesn't deserve to be named after a Big Ten school." - Michael on Will Perdue - AWESOME!


    "I want to prove the critics wrong...I want to see some serious moves from management, which I really haven't seen that much of yet, and I want to see more serious at udes from my teammates this year when it comes to the playoffs. In the past, it's been more or less a joking thing, sort of a 'Well, we're here, so let's have a good time.'"..........


    "I'm sure everything will be fine if we win, but if we start losing, I'm shooting."


    "I know what I would do if I were coach. I'd determine our strengths and weaknesses and utilize them. And it's pretty clear what our strength is."


    "Your boy doesn't want to play. I'm tired of bailing his ass out." - Michael yelling at Jim Cleamons about Dennis Hopson


    "I don't know about trading a 24 year-old guy for a 34 year-old guy." - Michael questioning the Oakley trade


    "He's causing me too many turnovers." - Michael on Cartwright's inability to catch


    "Why the don't you ever set a pick like that in a game?" - Michael yelling at Perdue after also hitting Perdue upside his head (led to the ins ution of the private curtain for practices)

    Teamate says "But MJ, you had two guys on you."
    Jordan replies "Yeah, but one was Fred Roberts."
    Let us not forget how MJ channeled his inner KG when he clocked Kerr because he lost a scrimmage.

    OK, I answered your question. Now answer mines. Either , or get off the pot MJ.

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    Not deflecting in the least. Kobe got tired of playing with bums like Kwame, Odumb, Luke Walton, Smush Parker and Brian Cook. He used his mouthpiece (Screaming A Smith) to deliver a message to the Lakers's FO that they were wasting his prime. First he had to evict a no longer motivated Shaq, then he has to play with this supporting cast? GTFO son. MJ would have done and said the same thing. I'd argue that he was worse than Kobe. Here is a little trip down memory lane:


    Let us not forget how MJ channeled his inner KG when he clocked Kerr because he lost a scrimmage.

    OK, I answered your question. Now answer mines. Either , or get off the pot MJ.
    So Kobe couldn't take 3 years playing with the roster LeBron played with for 7?

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    So Kobe couldn't take 3 years playing with the roster LeBron played with for 7?
    Deflecting again. And STFU about LeHype. This fool came out of the lEastern conference once as the man then promptly got his pushed in. Before that, he couldn't because he wasn't good enough. What does he do? Collude with his class of '03 buddies. Then he got bailed out two years in a row by role players (Mike Miller last year and Ray Alen this year) and a team of choke artists that could NOT hold a 5-point lead for 28 ing seconds. Color me unimpressed tbh.

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    Deflecting again. And STFU about LeHype. This fool came out of the lEastern conference once as the man then promptly got his pushed in. Before that, he couldn't because he wasn't good enough. What does he do? Collude with his class of '03 buddies. Then he got bailed out two years in a row by role players (Mike Miller last year and Ray Alen this year) and a team of choke artists that could NOT hold a 5-point lead for 28 ing seconds. Color me unimpressed tbh.
    Why you mad son? You said Kobe got tired of playing with scrubs which was the equivalent to LeBron's roster, which I guess isn't surprising since Kobe's ass demanded a trade from day one

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    Needing HOF help from day one.

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    Why you mad son? You said Kobe got tired of playing with scrubs which was the equivalent to LeBron's roster, which I guess isn't surprising since Kobe's ass demanded a trade from day one
    Mad? Me - not even son. I just like to dispell the common flawed thoughts of millions that you are the GOAT. The next annointend one (LeHype) also had help in the form of Wade and Bosh (+sharp shooting vets like Mike Miller and Ray Allen). They saved his baconPERIOD.

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    Needing HOF help from day one.
    I'm glad you went there. Last I checked, Pip is a HOFer. You ain't never did PERIOD without him. However, I saw him take your team to the ECF after compiling a 55-win record. This win you were striking out for the Baron's.

    Also, name one HOFer on the Lakers' back-to-back championship teams of 2009 and 2010. So in essence, Kobe repeated as a champion without HOF help. Something you or LeBron couldn't do.

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    Lkrfan getting on so badly, i feel sorry for him.

    I haven't seen Lkrfan this butthurt since his commanding officer told him to help with the Fukushima cleanup.

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    Yo Mike!.....question

    How would you have IF kobe was traded to the bulls?

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    I'm glad you went there. Last I checked, Pip is a HOFer. You ain't never did PERIOD without him. However, I saw him take your team to the ECF after compiling a 55-win record. This win you were striking out for the Baron's.

    Also, name one HOFer on the Lakers' back-to-back championship teams of 2009 and 2010. So in essence, Kobe repeated as a champion without HOF help. Something you or LeBron couldn't do.
    Are you deliberately slow? I said from day one. I came in the league before Pip. Shaq was already an all star when Kobe came in, so I guess I should have dumbed it down to "All Star and HOF" help since day one.

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    Mad? Me - not even son. I just like to dispell the common flawed thoughts of millions that you are the GOAT. The next annointend one (LeHype) also had help in the form of Wade and Bosh (+sharp shooting vets like Mike Miller and Ray Allen). They saved his baconPERIOD.
    You mean the way Fisher, Horry, Artest, Gasol,Shaq, Phil, Odom, Ariza, Fox all saved Kobe? Those are just the ones who saved him. It doesn't include the full list of all stars he needed to compete with.

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    Yo Mike!.....question

    How would you have IF kobe was traded to the bulls?
    Det gorilla Shaq.

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    Oh, and Pau Gasol is a future Hall of Famer fyi. So no he didn't repeat without one.

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    ^ He wouldn't be worth two s if Kobe didn't take him in and made him a champion.

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