Weight loss thread 2013

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Lost 19 pounds since May. Hope to lose 15 more by the end of the year. Currently 201.

[UZER]

Which brings up the subject of when one eats.
Could it be for ashbeeigh and others (me too), that one could be correctly limiting their calorie intake but blowing it by when they eat?

When should a person eat in relation to their workout? Be it aerobics or pumping.
Working out on an empty stomach, say 1st thing in the morning? Good or bad?
Eating just before bed, which im sure is not good, but exactly how evil is it? On those days when one works out in the evening, is it absolutely killer to chase the workout with food?

good questions. Honestly, I don't know. I eat better during the week and limit portions. I I really try hard no to overwhelm myself with all of those things because then I'll feel like I'm on a diet which I despise, but I am more aware of it. If during the week I feel like bill millers, I'll have it, but not every day.

eating late won't kill you unless you do it everyday. If I do a workout in the morning, I at least try to eat a banana to give my body something from from its 6/8 hour fast overnight.

I'm doing insanity following the 6 day a week program as a personal challenge. But, I'm realistic enough to know I can't keep that up forever as a normal human, so I plan to do it every other day, or 3 times a week, once im through.

I've lost 20 lbs in a month, and that's with not starving myself on some ridiculous "diet". But that's because insanity kicks your ass.

[leemajors]

working out before you eat is good, but you need to eat within an hour of working out.

[Drachen]

Well if I could afford a really great elliptical I'd definitely get one. I'd never give up my daily dose of the outdoors though----my mind and spirit need it too much.

I saw someone on one of these the other day. Maybe you could look into it.
http://www.elliptigo.com

[ashbeeigh]

if you wanna lose weight you have to eat better. I still eat what I want on the weekends to keep my sanity (pun intended), but, even if you don't diet, you'll get in shape.

Of course. That is an area for improvement on my part, but I do have polycystic ovarian syndrome (may be tmi but it plays a part in all of this) which messes with hormones. This imbalance, whatever it is, inhibits some people's ability to lose weight. Yes, there is a specific diet to follow and I could probably lose a bit more if I am strictly on that diet but it's hard. And yes, I know that's part of it. And I'm not whining about the lack of weight loss at all. I'm in way better shape, like you mentioned and have maintained at least a 20 pound weight loss since 2010 so I'm still happy with where i am compared to where I was then.

Which brings up the subject of when one eats.
Could it be for ashbeeigh and others (me too), that one could be correctly limiting their calorie intake but blowing it by when they eat?

When should a person eat in relation to their workout? Be it aerobics or pumping.
Working out on an empty stomach, say 1st thing in the morning? Good or bad?
Eating just before bed, which im sure is not good, but exactly how evil is it? On those days when one works out in the evening, is it absolutely killer to chase the workout with food?

You need something in your tummy when you work out. If you're going to do something strenuous (like 6 plus mile run) have some toast or maybe some energy chews before hand. Eating after is a must too. More protein the better. But don't overeat just because you worked out. I heard a survey (and maybe I can find it online) that said people that work out and then eat a big meal overcompensate because they think they burned more calories than they really did. Avoid dairy and normal things that may cause stomach problems. They will inhibit your exercise plan.

And as far as eating in the evenings, I have avoided eating 3 hours before bed, mostly. I'm not sure about the science behind that though.

[UZER]

Of course. That is an area for improvement on my part, but I do have polycystic ovarian syndrome (may be tmi but it plays a part in all of this) which messes with hormones. This imbalance, whatever it is, inhibits some people's ability to lose weight. Yes, there is a specific diet to follow and I could probably lose a bit more if I am strictly on that diet but it's hard. And yes, I know that's part of it. And I'm not whining about the lack of weight loss at all. I'm in way better shape, like you mentioned and have maintained at least a 20 pound weight loss since 2010 so I'm still happy with where i am compared to where I was then.

my comment was not meant like that. I was just saying it in general.

[ashbeeigh]

my comment was not meant like that. I was just saying it in general.

Ahh. Well I apologize. Many of the things here end up that way. But yes, I agree with you. Exercise alone will not get anyone anywhere.

[mrsmaalox]

I saw someone on one of these the other day. Maybe you could look into it.
http://www.elliptigo.com

What a machine I'd never seen that.

[Drachen]

I never saw it either. I was out on scenic loop and one of these passed me. I was like, DAMN!

[Fabbs]

Ephedrine HCL and Clenbuteral,.... - at the cost of potential heart problems.

caffeine and 1,3 DMAA.
A stronger alternative would be Yohimbe, carrying the now regulated Yohimbine HCL alkaloid. This is an alpha antagonist and affects adrenalin levels. I would not recommend that unless you have a tolerance for alpha blockers.

Ephedrine HCL and Clenbuteral. I'll take a big pass.
Caffeine. naw i'm off the stuff and feeling much better. The crash after the jump not even worth it for me. Don't miss the acid in the coffee either.
Clenbuteral. naw.

Yohimbe. Besides weight loss i will most likely hit more home runs? Hmmn. But this alpha blocker issue.....

Don't you have any slam dunkers with no bad side effects?

[Fabbs]

Lost 19 pounds since May. Hope to lose 15 more by the end of the year. Currently 201.

Do you have some sort of celebration planned for 199?

That's a benchmark for me. Definitely going to celebrate.

[Katherine Robinson]

Ephedrine HCL and Clenbuteral. I'll take a big pass.
Caffeine. naw i'm off the stuff and feeling much better. The crash after the jump not even worth it for me. Don't miss the acid in the coffee either.
Clenbuteral. naw.

Yohimbe. Besides weight loss i will most likely hit more home runs? Hmmn. But this alpha blocker issue.....

Don't you have any slam dunkers with no bad side effects?

If there was a substance which is legal, effective and without consequence, obesity would not be as big of a problem. I would not consider anything endorsed by Dr. Oz or any TV personality.

To answer your question, I have seen many people with a very strict diet with macronutrients in check benefit from Rasberry Ketones given that their bodyfat is above 20% (25%+ in many cases). This is more of an obesity aid instead of a weight loss supplement, but some people claim to lose weight faster with the supplementation. Besides that, there is nothing you want to spend money on besides a gym membership and food supplements to aid in macro nutrient levels.

I would strongly suggest you get your testosterone levels checked as well if you have trouble losing weight as it is often noted that people with low levels or an imbalance experience sluggish weight loss. Like most men, though, it is simply a lack if proper diet (50/40/10) which causes diminishing losses in weight loss.

[Fabbs]

Jan 27th today.
28% fat
33% muscle
214 lbs.
5'11"

Goals by end of 2013
18% fat
Muscle i need some input on what is a good muscle %
199 lbs

I've been swimming up a storm, but need to add aerobics. Swimmers I'm told the body in 75 degree water goes into fat storage mode. Great for muscle and toning, must add outside aerobics to burn fat.
I love to jog outdoors in green natural settings, but I've flirted with torn meniscus three times. Each time i escaped with only bruised meniscus, but jogging may be too much. I gave it whirl twice last week. Loved it, but knee was howling at me afterwords. Bicycle bores me to tears plus why do manufactures make mens bike seats in such an assinanine way. Elliptical is much better but i do have a mental block/whatever and have simply not been hitting the eliptical.

Oct 1st
26.5% fat down 1.5%
34% muscle up only 1.0%
206 lbs down 8
all in all ^ not the levels i had hoped to reach by now.
However in the good news dept:
Blood pressure
140/90 is now down to consistent 125/85

I met with pro trainer today. You all have had great input, but i figured i better personalize it even if pro ends up giving exact same advice.
He is convinced i need to add weight lifting to my routine. 30 minutes 3Xs a week followed immediately by 30 minutes of aerobics. Aero be it swimming continued or elliptical.
So we shall see what Jan 1st brings.

Food I'm not completely sold on Eat For Your Blood Type but i will say i do get off good on the foods he claims my blood type corresponds to.
Steak and greens
Pears, blueberrys (alkaline vs acidic)
I continue to ditch coffee for green tea.
Carbs, even complex ones it seems i, like others just cannot win with carbs.

[Big Empty]

i finally got back under 200 for the first time in 10 years last week! such a great great feeling! im at 198 currently and i want to get back to 168/173 area. I switched to Miller Lite from Bud Light and i eat a grilled chicken salad in the afternoon during the week. Im working out 4-6 times a week sometimes two-a-days. Its working! Slowly but working it took 2 months to lose 10 pounds but i eat alot on the weekends and drink. I'd imagine it would be faster if i cut all that stuff out but i want my cake and want to eat it too.

[leemajors]

switching from one light beer to another, or just to light beer period, does jack .

[Fabbs]

I would strongly suggest you get your testosterone levels checked as well if you have trouble losing weight as it is often noted that people with low levels or an imbalance experience sluggish weight loss. Like most men, though, it is simply a lack if proper diet (50/40/10) which causes diminishing losses in weight loss.

Interesting, thank you.
Even if a guys home run and rbi production levels have remained up since age 18 (that being normal drop off but no cliff dives), could he have low testosterone?
Fitness guy is convinced i need to add weight resistance lifting. Says my combo of swimming and jogging with no weights could be burning muscle.

[Katherine Robinson]

Interesting, thank you.
Even if a guys home run and rbi production levels have remained up since age 18 (that being normal drop off but no cliff dives), could he have low testosterone?
Fitness guy is convinced i need to add weight resistance lifting. Says my combo of swimming and jogging with no weights could be burning muscle.

If you do not feel sluggish in comparison to earlier years, you likely have normal hormone levels - but bloodwork is not a big ordeal and can tell things you may not see/feel.

Weight training aids immensely to long term weight loss as you will raise your resting metabolism from the addition of muscle mass. Many argue it is superior to aerobic exercise when concerning strictly weight loss because of the long term benefits which aid in maintaining your bodyfat%. That is not to say aerobic exercise is inferior, it does aid in cardiac performance and breathing.

[Fabbs]

^^ His take was 30 min weight lifting followed immediately by 30 aero 3Xs a week. Or 4Xs if possible.
72 hours rest in between muscle group being weight bearing worked.
Example

M arms then cardio
T legs then cardio
W off in total
Th arms then cardio
F legs then cardio
S off in total

He adds the modern day thinking is to mix up the way the arms and legs are worked on the two separate days.
Example the Monday arm lifting would then be a different set of arm lifting on Thurs. Claims hitting a different set of arm muscles, or hitting them in a different way stimulates growth better. Vs doing the exact same set of lifts and reps on arms both Monday and Thurs. Ditto legs.

[Katherine Robinson]

^^ His take was 30 min weight lifting followed immediately by 30 aero 3Xs a week. Or 4Xs if possible.
72 hours rest in between muscle group being weight bearing worked.
Example

M arms then cardio
T legs then cardio
W off in total
Th arms then cardio
F legs then cardio
S off in total

He adds the modern day thinking is to mix up the way the arms and legs are worked on the two separate days.
Example the Monday arm lifting would then be a different set of arm lifting on Thurs. Claims hitting a different set of arm muscles, or hitting them in a different way stimulates growth better. Vs doing the exact same set of lifts and reps on arms both Monday and Thurs. Ditto legs.

Most of this theory of working out certain muscle groups in certain ways and certain times is what many refer to as "broscience". If you stress a muscle group and consume the proper levels of macronutrients, growth is inevitable up to a certain point when you are nearing a soft-cap of muscle size.

Althought there is no harm to try a regime.

[benefactor]

Final month of the year. My buddy and I were talking about how so many people fall off the wagon in December then have to do "exercise/weight loss resolutions" in January. I know it's hard as to keep from becoming a complete fat ass because of all the food mixed with cold weather but it far worse to spend several weeks away from the gym/your diet routine then try to start over. You don't have to not enjoy anything, but do your best not to blow it this month. Just keep reminding yourself starting over sucks much worse than staying with it and you won't.

Right now I'm sitting at 204 and I think my body is comfortable at that weight, so I don't see myself losing much more. I've started mixing up my heavy routine...including a heavy bench ladder that I've really liked. Five sets...8-6-4-6-8...twenty pounds on each time until you reach the middle set then twenty pounds off until the bottom. Here's mine for example:

255 - 8 reps
275 - 6 reps
295 - 4 reps
275 - 6 reps
255 - 8 reps

I've also worked in some pull ups on both the bar and the rings. It seems to have helped my overall back workout..as I've noticed gains on most of my stations since adding them.

[Fabbs]

I had some hip pain recently, hip flexor stretches helped a lot.

These hip flexor exercises are the bomb.
Cannot believe how much better I am feeling.

[Fabbs]

Jan 27th today.
28% fat
33% muscle
214 lbs.
5'11"

Goals by end of 2013
18% fat
Muscle i need some input on what is a good muscle %
199 lbs

I've been swimming up a storm, but need to add aerobics. Swimmers I'm told the body in 75 degree water goes into fat storage mode. Great for muscle and toning, must add outside aerobics to burn fat.
I love to jog outdoors in green natural settings, but I've flirted with torn meniscus three times. Each time i escaped with only bruised meniscus, but jogging may be too much. I gave it whirl twice last week. Loved it, but knee was howling at me afterwords. Bicycle bores me to tears plus why do manufactures make mens bike seats in such an assinanine way. Elliptical is much better but i do have a mental block/whatever and have simply not been hitting the eliptical.

Ok guys so I took the long way home.
Thanks for the tips.
Nov 2017
199 lbs!

[Fabbs]

I've read most of the fat measuring weight scales are bogus.
They only read parts of the body, thus give a very inaccurate fat %.

If you guys know which device is great in 2017 moving into 2018, holla.