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    Could not have said it better!!
    Well thank you Sir. If Cojo can improve his shot and ball handling to match his defensive skills, he can be more of a regular rotation player. Neal frustrated all of us with his play and his crummy defense, but I did like him. He had alot of heart and had zero fear, and that's what you want in a player. Usually his positive play would compensate for his mistakes and he could be a big difference maker; we've all seen that. Of our trio of snaggle tooth skilled guards, I don't think any of them has ability or potential to be a difference maker in a game. Shoulda kept Neal. Not a huge loss. Hopefully Bellinelli has some positive impact; he is a skilled baller. We shall see.

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    I think he's a terrible option going forward because he's too old to be considered a prospect and too raw to expect enough improvement in a fast enough time to make much use out of him.

    I would rather go with a random late 1st round american PG than Nando De Colo. The best thing about him is his name. His athleticism is decent and his size is good, but his skill level is quite poor. If he was a PF or C, that would be acceptable. But I want my PG's skill to be his greatest assett, then I care about athleticism, then size. Basically De Colo goes in the opposite order of best to worst assets.
    Well at 30 years old, Childress hasn't played a lot of minutes. He played in Europe (not a lot of games there) and he rode the bench after he got back.

    His main problem.... he can't shoot. But if Bowen could learn to shoot as a Spur and we have Chip to fix his stroke, then its a possibility. Someone besides Leonard needs to be able to defend guys like LeBron and Durant.

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    Ehhhh so far, hope he improves.
    i always thought he was a bad signing, but i like him better than belinelli, that's for sure.
    You have low expectations off Belli huh? I hope he is not that bad.

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    Well thank you Sir. If Cojo can improve his shot and ball handling to match his defensive skills, he can be more of a regular rotation player. Neal frustrated all of us with his play and his crummy defense, but I did like him. He had alot of heart and had zero fear, and that's what you want in a player. Usually his positive play would compensate for his mistakes and he could be a big difference maker; we've all seen that. Of our trio of snaggle tooth skilled guards, I don't think any of them has ability or potential to be a difference maker in a game. Shoulda kept Neal. Not a huge loss. Hopefully Bellinelli has some positive impact; he is a skilled baller. We shall see.
    Spurs have 3 guards (Mills, Cojo, De Colo) where two of them should have been ditched to keep Neal. Pressure is now on the 3 guys to fix their deficiencies.

    Cojo - Needs to improve shooting.
    De Colo - Need better offense and defense.
    Mills - Don't know how he can improve his defense.

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    Hey, I know the overall opinion of Nando (on Spurstalk) is not incredibly high. I certainly don't think he was actively bad, but he rarely made a positive impact. To me when he was in the game, he seemed like a place holder. But I was wondering what do you guys think of his potential to improve, specifically from his first season to the second. Pop is notorious for bringing players along slowly and limiting their minutes until they have a good amount of experience in the system. We all remember being so excited about Splitter, but due to his inexperience (and injuries) he really didn't crack the rotation in his first year.

    Does anyone expect Nando to have a "breakout" performance next year and truly crack the rotation? Essentially, due any of you think the main hindrance of his effectiveness was inexperience as opposed to a lack of ability. If so, why?
    NANDO = THE FUTURE.

    PLAY NANDO............

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    PlayNando should be in this thread at any moment..
    Hey there.

    Nando is going to prove the haters wrong, per par...

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    Ehhhh so far, hope he improves.

    You have low expectations off Belli huh? I hope he is not that bad.
    he's pretty much a known quan y, shoot shoot shoot and it will be fine, if you ask him to defend or make plays or whatever, it's not going to end good.

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    he's pretty much a known quan y, shoot shoot shoot and it will be fine, if you ask him to defend or make plays or whatever, it's not going to end good.
    So he is about the same as Gary Neal?

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    Hey there.

    Nando is going to prove the haters wrong, per par...

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    Well at 30 years old, Childress hasn't played a lot of minutes. He played in Europe (not a lot of games there) and he rode the bench after he got back.

    His main problem.... he can't shoot. But if Bowen could learn to shoot as a Spur and we have Chip to fix his stroke, then its a possibility. Someone besides Leonard needs to be able to defend guys like LeBron and Durant.
    Are you saying we should go with Childress and put a lot of stock into him? What's your full take on his potential?

    Spurs have 3 guards (Mills, Cojo, De Colo) where two of them should have been ditched to keep Neal. Pressure is now on the 3 guys to fix their deficiencies.

    Cojo - Needs to improve shooting.
    De Colo - Need better offense and defense.
    Mills - Don't know how he can improve his defense.
    Neal is a great shooter which is undeniable, but the statistical facts were that the Spurs' offense actually suffered while he was on the court. We all know how bad his defense is too. Neal's offense doesn't make up for his bad defense. In fact his offense didn't produce anymore like it did when he first burst onto the scene. This may be more due to Manu's decline than Neal being worse, but the fact that he was reliant on that in the first place isn't a good thing.

    It sucks to see him go, but I don't think it will be a huge loss. Belinelli sort of fills his role. He probably won't be as clutch though. Neal was great at hitting "impossible" shots.

    As far as De Colo goes, I think he needs to improve so much in so many areas that it isn't worth the time. De Colo has some "unlearnable" assets like his size, but guys with size often don't learn the "learnable" things anyway. You see it every single year. . .big guy with tons of athleticism that just can't put it together skill-wise. Guys that got there based on their "gifts", not on their hard work and effort.

    CoJo on the other hand I think is workable. He just needs to work on his scoring, whether it be catch and shoot or taking a pull up J off of screens like Parker does now. He's probably our best guy going forward since he just needs to work on one or two things which the Spurs have been able to teach many guys already (as you pointed out with Bowen learning to shoot earlier, and btw has also been the case with RJ and Leonard. Leonard was never really known as a 3pt guy and even RJ turned into a 3pt sniper with us).

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    I just speak the truth to all those who will listen.

    Those who choose not to listen are merely f00ls. Pay no attention to them.

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    So he is about the same as Gary Neal?
    yeah, without the balls, and the playmaking.

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    Nando, when he was first drafted, seemed like a player who would never see a Spurs uniform. He kept playing, and got better.
    He came over last year, and very few expected much if anything from him. In a strange way he played well enough that he now gets hammered for not being great.
    The real turn in perception of Nando came when he complained of wanting more playing time. it really did not have much to do with basketball.

    Nando, in truth, is an excellent passer. it may be his greatest strength. He has a great ability to see the floor. His defense is average, but is sufficeint from a team defense perspective. His height does provide for intrigue as a play making SG. Nando's greatest weakness, is his lack of outside shooting. He shoots from outside as bad as Green shoots a layup. Not generally a good thing, when it comes to play SG.

    Nando needs to get that outside shot going to once again surprise the Spur faithful. You really can't call him a bust because there was never much expected from Nando. In the end I think he will put it together. Let's just hope that Chip can fix that shot.

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    yeah, without the balls, and the playmaking.
    Gary Neal was not a playmaker. He would take a big shot though. His shot selection at times and D would put you out of a game too, too many one on three 27 foot three pointers I saw him take out of the flow of the game. I hope he is an upgrade from Neal.
    I just speak the truth to all those who will listen.

    Those who choose not to listen are merely f00ls. Pay no attention to them.
    The truth would mean it's proven, he has not proven crap yet and did bad in the summer league even. He has to earn respect.

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    I just speak the truth to all those who will listen.

    Those who choose not to listen are merely f00ls. Pay no attention to them.
    It seems to me that those that confuse truth with OPINION are the true fools. And btw, Nando is and will be a career average to under average NBA player at best. See there, that's MY opinion

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    The truth would mean it's proven, he has not proven crap yet and did bad in the summer league even. He has to earn respect.
    It speak the truth because I am the truth and I know the truth. Nando is also the TRUTH. Prove me wrong.

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    It seems to me that those that confuse truth with OPINION are the true fools. And btw, Nando is and will be a career average to under average NBA player at best. See there, that's MY opinion
    I know the truth and you are oblivious of it. It's okay. Some of us just aren't smart enough to be able to decipher the truth and have to rely of mysticism like religion to guide us since they can't discover truth for themselves. I pity you, tbh.

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    Crocodile tears, per par...

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    Nando has shot the ball very well this summer with FNT. In the friendly games, he has been 14/26 from 3 point range. He is also now showing a nice tear drop which should help him.

    And the idea that Nando can't shoot is just wrong. He has been a good shooter for his whole career.

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    I know the truth and you are oblivious of it. It's okay. Some of us just aren't smart enough to be able to decipher the truth and have to rely of mysticism like religion to guide us since they can't discover truth for themselves. I pity you, tbh.
    Its YOUR OPINION moron, and if you've convinced yourself of anything different, you also are mentally deficient.

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    Nando at his best will probably be a poor man's Ginobili.

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    Its YOUR OPINION moron, and if you've convinced yourself of anything different, you also are mentally deficient.


    umadbro?

    umadcuzimrightperpartbh?

    My "opinion" is the only one that counts because IT IS THE TRUTH. FACE IT. LIVE WITH IT. Don't deny it unless you want to be delusional.

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    It speak the truth because I am the truth and I know the truth. Nando is also the TRUTH. Prove me wrong.
    His play so far proves you wrong sir. In the NBA and SUMMER league that is, sides one summer league game. I hope he comes and balls his ass off with us this year or improves alot, that would be very welcome as he is on our team

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    Nando has shot the ball very well this summer with FNT. In the friendly games, he has been 14/26 from 3 point range. He is also now showing a nice tear drop which should help him.

    And the idea that Nando can't shoot is just wrong. He has been a good shooter for his whole career.
    He seemed to improve during the season as well. Made his trip to the doghouse more perplexing.

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    We need a reliable point guard to back up TP for sure and Im not ready to give it to C Joseph yet. I say give him a chance. He's tall, thats an asset.

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