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    He just needed to make a damn simple bounce or chest pass in game 6 tbh

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    Not any more. Finals Game Six- Nine points vs Eight Turnovers. Clearly more harm than good. That's gotta be more than a nine-point swing against San Antonio when all we needed was ONE POINT IN OUR FAVOR TO WIN.
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    truth sarin attack

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    Maybe without his last second 3pt in one game and his 25pts in another we don't get to game 6 or 7 against Miami.
    true. without Manu jerking off Wade in game 2 and 4, we probably sweep Miami

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    Whatever, bandwagon BS Spur fans.

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    This post about Manu's passing is about one man's opinion of Manu's best passes in his CAREER, not the playoffs. I thought it would provoke comments about the choices he made, not a reprise of the playoffs. The playoffs are OVER. Let it go.

    I never expected some folks would still be moaning and pissing about a lost opportunity at the end of the 7th game of the NBA Championship. We went as far as a team could go and not win the damn thing while a lot of star players were sitting at home watching the two best teams in the NBA slug it out. The difference between them was so small it could have gone either way.

    It was definitely a super series and one that will go down in history.

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    This post about Manu's passing is about one man's opinion of Manu's best passes in his CAREER, not the playoffs. I thought it would provoke comments about the choices he made, not a reprise of the playoffs. The playoffs are OVER. Let it go.

    I never expected some folks would still be moaning and pissing about a lost opportunity at the end of the 7th game of the NBA Championship. We went as far as a team could go and not win the damn thing while a lot of star players were sitting at home watching the two best teams in the NBA slug it out. The difference between them was so small it could have gone either way.

    It was definitely a super series and one that will go down in history.
    I totally agree with you and am ashamed of all the ing and whining from bandwagon Spur fans when they should be proud of this team for getting as far as they did and almost winning it all!

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    I totally agree with you and am ashamed of all the ing and whining from bandwagon Spur fans when they should be proud of this team for getting as far as they did and almost winning it all!

    Only to have Manu throw it away. LITERALLY.

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    Only to have Manu throw it away. LITERALLY.
    Case closed, you sunk yourself.

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    Case closed, you sunk yourself.

    Not hardly.

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    What, is the rope not new enough for you to hang yourself with?

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    What, is the rope not new enough for you to hang yourself with?
    Are you a parrot? Wanna cracker?

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    Are you a parrot? Wanna cracker?
    Rope is getting tighter, huh.

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    Because he kept us in the series. It wasn't Leonard who killed us, it was Manu and his own missed FT AND EIGHT TURNOVERS.

    Leonard played nearly flawless. Manu was not even close to Leonard's level this playoffs.
    Selective reasoning. 1 Free Throw and it matters not what happens from that point on. 1. Missing it has the same cause and effect. If it's made, that's 5 rings. So, in essence, the entire team contributed to their own demise. Failure to get a rebound, Failure to get a stop, Failure to make a critical pass, Failure to get a ref call on a drive, Failure to make a critical FT. Why you can't see that means you don't understand the logic even though it's staring us all in the face.
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    Selective reasoning. 1 Free Throw and it matters not what happens from that point on. 1. Missing it has the same cause and effect. If it's made, that 5 rings. So, in essence, the entire team contributed to their own demise. Failure to get a rebound, Failure to get a stop, Failure to make a critical pass, Failure to get a ref call on a drive, Failure to make a critical FT. Why you can't see that means you can understand the logic even though it's staring us all in the face.
    Geez, that is what I've been saying all along too. Why is it there are so many dense ignorant people on here who can't see this? It makes no sense, it was the whole team at fault.
    Glad most of us understand this.

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    Because he kept us in the series. It wasn't Leonard who killed us, it was Manu and his own missed FT AND EIGHT TURNOVERS.

    Leonard played nearly flawless. Manu was not even close to Leonard's level this playoffs.
    A flawless series but missed a freethrow that would have sealed a le?

    What a B.S. double-standard

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    A flawless series but missed a freethrow that would have sealed a le?

    What a B.S. double-standard
    Not just a double standard, but total narrow mindedness!
    Only a bandwagon fan would say this stuff. Or a troll.

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    Selective reasoning. 1 Free Throw and it matters not what happens from that point on. 1. Missing it has the same cause and effect. If it's made, that's 5 rings. So, in essence, the entire team contributed to their own demise. Failure to get a rebound, Failure to get a stop, Failure to make a critical pass, Failure to get a ref call on a drive, Failure to make a critical FT. Why you can't see that means you don't understand the logic even though it's staring us all in the face.
    It's just much simpler to reduce everything to a single scapegoat. It makes focusing the whine about losing your championship bragging rights much easier.

    Ultimately, it's a coping mechanism. A means to an end. It doesn't have to be logical. It just has to be the outlet that helps soothe the pain.

    IMO, anyways.

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    It's just much simpler to reduce everything to a single scapegoat. It makes focusing the whine about losing your championship bragging rights much easier.

    Ultimately, it's a coping mechanism. A means to an end. It doesn't have to be logical. It just has to be the outlet that helps soothe the pain.

    IMO, anyways.
    I believe you've hit the nail squarely on the head!

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    A flawless series but missed a freethrow that would have sealed a le?

    What a B.S. double-standard

    He hit a higher FT percentage than the overpaid argentine didn't he? (I honestly don't remember.)

    And if Manu wasn't throwing up early shots, making wild passes, and giving the ball away it wouldn't have mattered, in addition to missing a free throw to clinch it.

    EIGHT...eight turnovers. Only nine points. We lost by one. Do the math.

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    It's just much simpler to reduce everything to a single scapegoat. It makes focusing the whine about losing your championship bragging rights much easier.

    Ultimately, it's a coping mechanism. A means to an end. It doesn't have to be logical. It just has to be the outlet that helps soothe the pain.

    IMO, anyways.
    Manu should have been benched. Didn't you see the game? Good grief.

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    It's just much simpler to reduce everything to a single scapegoat. It makes focusing the whine about losing your championship bragging rights much easier.

    Ultimately, it's a coping mechanism. A means to an end. It doesn't have to be logical. It just has to be the outlet that helps soothe the pain.

    IMO, anyways.
    The guy has been shown and proven to be wrong on so many threads now it isn't even funny, yet he continues on oblivious to the truth. That rope must be choking him by now.
    Or he is a troll disguised as a Spur fan, I haven't figured out which yet.

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    The guy has been shown and proven to be wrong on so many threads now it isn't even funny, yet he continues on oblivious to the truth. That rope must be choking him by now.
    Or he is a troll disguised as a Spur fan, I haven't figured out which yet.
    You're not expecting to change anybody's mind, are you?

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    You're not expecting to change anybody's mind, are you?
    I guess not, El Nono, but it was worth a try.
    Thank God I have a sense of humor.

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    Manu should have been benched. Didn't you see the game? Good grief.
    In favor of who?


    Neal
    De Colo
    Mills
    McGrady

    or should we just have played four players and won a le that way

    I've even predicted your response...

    Your likely response: "With the way Manu was playing, it would have been a upgrade."

    We have to have a 3rd player maker plain and simple none of those aforementioned would have helped us late in anyway.

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    He hit a higher FT percentage than the overpaid argentine didn't he? (I honestly don't remember.)

    And if Manu wasn't throwing up early shots, making wild passes, and giving the ball away it wouldn't have mattered, in addition to missing a free throw to clinch it.

    EIGHT...eight turnovers. Only nine points. We lost by one. Do the math.
    Lost by 3. Maybe I should do the math for both of us.

    We were up 6 with 28 seconds left. Manu's 7 T.Os up to that point clearly didn't affect the game much up till that point. We actually still wound up taking more shots despite both teams being even on the offense glass. We also made 5 more Free throws.

    8 possessions ( a max of 16-24 points can be scored in those possessions) , 9 points is what they scored. Even you can admit that's pretty awful.

    and it took Miami 52 minutes of basketball to score 103 points. That should tell you that Miami's offense was pretty poor.

    You're acting as if Manu was throwing the equilvant of pick-6's all night. Thats simply untrue. His turnovers didn't cost us very much because our defense was strong and their offense struggled for most of the game.

    Manu earned a 3 year deal after carrying us to the playoffs with Parker injured, Duncan on the decline and RJ under performing. He got hot and helped us sneek in as a 7th seed and beat Dallas (a 2 seed). He was rewarded with a 3 year $40 million extension. Contracts raises (10% each season under the old CBA, i believe) meant that the final year of his deal had to be $14,000,000. The Spurs knew he would be 35 and on the decline but his value to the organization on and off the court was worth it.

    Based on his production, $7.5 his much closer to his actual value. Which what he will be payed this season.

    You can't compare Manu's deal to a rookie scale deal. There is a limit to how much the Spurs are allowed to pay Leonard. In four seasons he will make less than $8 million. Its based on where he was taken in the draft. He wouldn't be eligible to make that type of money until his 6 or 7 season anyway based on years of experience and limits to salary for a player within those years of experience.

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