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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    I'm rooting for Jesse and Walt (even tho they can't both win), and then Skyler & Todd's gruesome, horrifyingly painful deaths.

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    Good lord. In the episode itself, Hank even taunts Walt with the fact it was a ty staged picture that he would have realized was part of a trap if he wasn't such a greedy bas . The fact it was unbelievable was the point and intentionally recalls the moment earlier in the episode when Huell starts talking after being scared by an even tier staged cell phone picture. No matter how educated Walt is or how much of a genius he is with chemistry, he just as dumb and desperate as a low level henchman when he thinks his life or his livelihood is about to end.

    And, really, he always has been. Perhaps because he's lasted this long, or because he managed to peak so high, or because he took out someone as legitimately bad ass as Gus was at his best, or just because we've been pushed to root for his success on so many occasions, it's easy to misremember him as some sort of criminal mastermind, but more often than not he's scraped by by the skin of his teeth. Walt can put together a good plan when he's got time to think on it, but from the pilot up until now he's really not that great at thinking on his feet. He's been awfully lucky throughout the series, and until now he has gotten a lot of mileage out of surrounding himself with people who were easy to manipulate, but his last minute schemes have typically been flailing and erratic and he has frequently been caught off guard. Stupid and/or shortsighted decisions are entirely within character for Walter White, especially when they're motivated by arrogance or greed.

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    I'm rooting for Jesse and Walt (even tho they can't both win), and then Skyler & Todd's gruesome, horrifyingly painful deaths.
    i wish they had time enough to devote 30 minutes to skyler's slow and painful death ala the walking dead season finale.

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    That shootout was reminiscent of the A-Team.

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    So the barrel is making that shadow? Lmao.
    You focus on the dumbest details. Oh no, the barrel is flush with the ground in the picture (when its not). The point is just to show that Jesse sent Walt a picture of a ing barrel of money burried in the ground not to get every ing detail of hte barrel right. Hank says that the dirt was different when he's talking to Walt but that Walt he figured Walk wouldn't notice because of his Greed. You're missing the god damn point of the entire situation that Walt's greed is what was his ultimate undoing and just focusing on some ing barrel detail even when the point was explicitly stated in dialogue.

    But yeah, its unbelievable. Totally.

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    This episode is being talked about all over the internet as the best one yet. I totally disagree. This episode was good, but basically nothing happened until the end. It was just more build up.

    I completely expected Hank to take a bullet to the head right after telling Marie he loves her. I guess I'll have to wait until next week.

    Is it weird that I'm hoping everyone but Walt dies in the end?
    The last 10 minutes or so were ing intense. I don't think it was the best ever but it was really really good. I thought the development for some of these episodes has been amazing. Still think the one from 2 weeks ago with the Heisenhug is my favorite of the series.

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    Good lord. In the episode itself, Hank even taunts Walt with the fact it was a ty staged picture that he would have realized was part of a trap if he wasn't such a greedy bas . The fact it was unbelievable was the point and intentionally recalls the moment earlier in the episode when Huell starts talking after being scared by an even tier staged cell phone picture. No matter how educated Walt is or how much of a genius he is with chemistry, he just as dumb and desperate as a low level henchman when he thinks his life or his livelihood is about to end.

    And, really, he always has been. Perhaps because he's lasted this long, or because he managed to peak so high, or because he took out someone as legitimately bad ass as Gus was at his best, or just because we've been pushed to root for his success on so many occasions, it's easy to misremember him as some sort of criminal mastermind, but more often than not he's scraped by by the skin of his teeth. Walt can put together a good plan when he's got time to think on it, but from the pilot up until now he's really not that great at thinking on his feet. He's been awfully lucky throughout the series, and until now he has gotten a lot of mileage out of surrounding himself with people who were easy to manipulate, but his last minute schemes have typically been flailing and erratic and he has frequently been caught off guard. Stupid and/or shortsighted decisions are entirely within character for Walter White, especially when they're motivated by arrogance or greed.
    ing EXACTLY, I mean the point is explicitly stated in the dialogue and some people still can't grasp it. You just can't help people like that.

    One thing thats pretty noticeable is how awkward Walt always looks with a gun. As much of an evil as he is, when it comes to doing the dirty work he's extremely awkward and avoids it as well (asking Meth Damon and crew to kill Jesse instead of doing it himself). If you think about the scene with Mike he was always super awkward with the gun there. And the awkwardness with the vending machine hiding spot. Its a reoccurring theme.

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    Yeah but I think the barrel Hank used was from Sam's Club imo

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    I'm still hoping Skyler and Jesse die, tbh..

    Jesse is one of my 5 most hated characters in TV history, tbh..

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    I think the skinheads leave with both Jesse and Walt alive. They initially need Jesse as insurance/Plan B if they can't persuade Walt to cook for them again. Walt either escapes or negotiates his release with the skinheads. If Walt is cooking for them, then they don't need Jesse and kill him. But the flash forward reveals Walt is not in DEA custody and he took Saul's hoover option. So he either escapes from the skinheads or comes to an arrangement with them where he is allowed to leave.

    The skinheads only need Jesse around long enough to train up Todd to master the cook. Then they will kill him. Walt could be coming back to rescue Jesse. It's either that or they threaten Skylar/Walt Jr. It doesn't look good for Hank/Gomez, but you never know. BB has done misdirection before. I just think based on what we saw last night paired with the flash-forward, it's clear that they leave with both Walt and Jesse. And while up until the end it pained Walt to put the hit out on Jesse and he felt it was his only choice, he may feel differently after realizing Jesse worked with Hank to bring him down.

    It therefore wouldn't surprise me if we see a scenario where a pissed-off and betrayed Walt secures his release with the money he buried by offering to "sell" Jesse to them. And then he has a change of heart and sort of "breaks good" in a too little, too late way to come back and rescue Jesse.

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    I think the skinheads leave with both Jesse and Walt alive. They initially need Jesse as insurance/Plan B if they can't persuade Walt to cook for them again. Walt either escapes or negotiates his release with the skinheads. If Walt is cooking for them, then they don't need Jesse and kill him. But the flash forward reveals Walt is not in DEA custody and he took Saul's hoover option. So he either escapes from the skinheads or comes to an arrangement with them where he is allowed to leave.

    The skinheads only need Jesse around long enough to train up Todd to master the cook. Then they will kill him. Walt could be coming back to rescue Jesse. It's either that or they threaten Skylar/Walt Jr. It doesn't look good for Hank/Gomez, but you never know. BB has done misdirection before. I just think based on what we saw last night paired with the flash-forward, it's clear that they leave with both Walt and Jesse. And while up until the end it pained Walt to put the hit out on Jesse and he felt it was his only choice, he may feel differently after realizing Jesse worked with Hank to bring him down.

    It therefore wouldn't surprise me if we see a scenario where a pissed-off and betrayed Walt secures his release with the money he buried by offering to "sell" Jesse to them. And then he has a change of heart and sort of "breaks good" in a too little, too late way to come back and rescue Jesse.
    Your signature is ed up. You think kidnapping and rape is funny?

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    Your signature is ed up. You think kidnapping and rape is funny?
    Had to take a look, I thought it was funny. I didn't take you for a

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    kidnapping isn't funny, rape isn't funny

    put em together though and they are comedy gold

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    I think the skinheads leave with both Jesse and Walt alive. They initially need Jesse as insurance/Plan B if they can't persuade Walt to cook for them again. Walt either escapes or negotiates his release with the skinheads. If Walt is cooking for them, then they don't need Jesse and kill him. But the flash forward reveals Walt is not in DEA custody and he took Saul's hoover option. So he either escapes from the skinheads or comes to an arrangement with them where he is allowed to leave.

    The skinheads only need Jesse around long enough to train up Todd to master the cook. Then they will kill him. Walt could be coming back to rescue Jesse. It's either that or they threaten Skylar/Walt Jr. It doesn't look good for Hank/Gomez, but you never know. BB has done misdirection before. I just think based on what we saw last night paired with the flash-forward, it's clear that they leave with both Walt and Jesse. And while up until the end it pained Walt to put the hit out on Jesse and he felt it was his only choice, he may feel differently after realizing Jesse worked with Hank to bring him down.

    It therefore wouldn't surprise me if we see a scenario where a pissed-off and betrayed Walt secures his release with the money he buried by offering to "sell" Jesse to them. And then he has a change of heart and sort of "breaks good" in a too little, too late way to come back and rescue Jesse.
    Walt's NEVER going to rescue Jesse. For 's sake, he offered to COOK again as the price of the hit, and he was OUT of the game. When he called off the hit, it wasn't because he had a change of heart about Jesse, it's that he realized Jesse wasn't alone, and that whacking two DEA agents would likely be bad for business.

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    Had to take a look, I thought it was funny. I didn't take you for a
    You come say that to my face Willie Wonka. I'll bust up and do a spin monkey kick upside your noggin. Then when you're on the ground writhing in agony, I'll twist up and BREAK YOUR SOUL.

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    I noticed it from from a pic on a cell phone being displayed on my ing TV. It was one barrel completely buried with the lid open and flush with the top of the ground. Not even close to what Walt did. Jesse would have had to dig up Walt's barrel, then dig another hole and drop that one barrel in. And then mention to Walt that he found 5 others? He would have found all of them in the initial dig. Why not just take a picture of all of them?

    I love the show and I'm willing to suspend belief. But to think that Walt is suddenly a dumb ass is hard for me to swallow.
    It's not about Walt being dumb, it was a way to show how greedy Walt is, and how he could risk everything in a matter of minutes just to save his money. I thought that was obvious?

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    Walt's NEVER going to rescue Jesse. For 's sake, he offered to COOK again as the price of the hit, and he was OUT of the game. When he called off the hit, it wasn't because he had a change of heart about Jesse, it's that he realized Jesse wasn't alone, and that whacking two DEA agents would likely be bad for business.
    I think it's pretty obvious in the flash forward that the heavy weaponry is for the skinheads. If he's not rescuing Jesse, then he's either out for revenge (they kill Sylar/Walt Jr/Holly) or because they're threatening Skylar/Walt Jr/Holly.

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    Walt's NEVER going to rescue Jesse. For 's sake, he offered to COOK again as the price of the hit, and he was OUT of the game. When he called off the hit, it wasn't because he had a change of heart about Jesse, it's that he realized Jesse wasn't alone, and that whacking two DEA agents would likely be bad for business.
    I think you are dead wrong. Walt never wanted to order the hit, until he felt his life was in danger by Jesse. If he doesn't feel Jesse is endangering his life, I doubt he has any reason to kill Jesse. Even when he was explaining to Jack how to get him, he seemed to struggle with the idea of Jesse being killed.

    Walt legitimately cares for Jesse, and is only doing this because he was afraid him and his family may be in danger.

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    Good lord. In the episode itself, Hank even taunts Walt with the fact it was a ty staged picture that he would have realized was part of a trap if he wasn't such a greedy bas . The fact it was unbelievable was the point and intentionally recalls the moment earlier in the episode when Huell starts talking after being scared by an even tier staged cell phone picture. No matter how educated Walt is or how much of a genius he is with chemistry, he just as dumb and desperate as a low level henchman when he thinks his life or his livelihood is about to end.

    And, really, he always has been. Perhaps because he's lasted this long, or because he managed to peak so high, or because he took out someone as legitimately bad ass as Gus was at his best, or just because we've been pushed to root for his success on so many occasions, it's easy to misremember him as some sort of criminal mastermind, but more often than not he's scraped by by the skin of his teeth. Walt can put together a good plan when he's got time to think on it, but from the pilot up until now he's really not that great at thinking on his feet. He's been awfully lucky throughout the series, and until now he has gotten a lot of mileage out of surrounding himself with people who were easy to manipulate, but his last minute schemes have typically been flailing and erratic and he has frequently been caught off guard. Stupid and/or shortsighted decisions are entirely within character for Walter White, especially when they're motivated by arrogance or greed.
    Yeah, panic is a hallmark of Walt when the chips are down. When he has time to deal with a problem, he usually comes up with a really solid plan that he executes pretty well. When confronted with an immediate crisis, he loses his and someone often dies.

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    Walt's NEVER going to rescue Jesse. For 's sake, he offered to COOK again as the price of the hit, and he was OUT of the game. When he called off the hit, it wasn't because he had a change of heart about Jesse, it's that he realized Jesse wasn't alone, and that whacking two DEA agents would likely be bad for business.
    ? I don't even understand how a person could so completely misinterpret something so obvious. Walt called it off because it was Hank and Gomez, at that point he knew Jesse wasn't out to kill him or his family, so there was no need for the hit. He didn't want to kill Jesse unless he absolutely had to, plus he'd never let the Nazis come if it meant Hank dies too. He didn't even call for them when he was under the impression that Jesse had uncovered his money, it was only when he saw an SUV with 3 unknown guys in it roll up.

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    that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw it.

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    imo, I see Gomez definitely dead within the first few minutes. Then Hank surrendering and eventually getting executed by the Nazis sometime in the episode. Then Walt making a run for it from the compound with Jesse forced to stay there and cook for them. Then of course, the flash forwards will proceed in 'Granite State', second to last episode and Walt kills everyone and Jesse killing him.
    ^^^ THIS

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    i just want skyler to get slapped again

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    Did you miss Hanks comments about the dirt? Its not out of character at all.
    I'll buy Hank's assessment that Walt's greed will cost him his caution. What makes me roll my eyes is the convenient laundry list of exposition that came out of Walt's mouth and tied him to every murder and crime he's been a part of. But, whatever. I'm not passionate about it one way or the other. It's a good show.

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