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    1ST BALLOT HOF Buddy Mignon's Avatar
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    Not because he was in his prime. Coaches will tell you they lost sleep at night coming up with a plan to stop Kobe. In fact, teams would pray we ran the offense through Shaq because he had horrible touch outside of five feet and if you fouled him he was sure to piss his pants at the charity stripe. We ran the offense through Shaq during Kobes firsf three years and got embarrassed in the playoffs. It wasn't until Kobe said this ... I'm taking over this ship that we began to win les. Once Shaq accepted his role as the second option behind Kobe we were unstoppable. Kobe accomplished damn there as much without Shaq as he did with him.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    is that why shaq was your leader in field goal attempts and scoring in all of your championship seasons? and is that why in 04 when kobe "took over" you got embarrassed in the finals?

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    LL spittin that real .

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    is that why shaq was your leader in field goal attempts and scoring in all of your championship seasons? and is that why in 04 when kobe "took over" you got embarrassed in the finals?
    shutup butthurt got
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    Not because he was in his prime. Coaches will tell you they lost sleep at night coming up with a plan to stop Kobe. In fact, teams would pray we ran the offense through Shaq because he had horrible touch outside of five feet and if you fouled him he was sure to piss his pants at the charity stripe. We ran the offense through Shaq during Kobes firsf three years and got embarrassed in the playoffs. It wasn't until Kobe said this ... I'm taking over this ship that we began to win les. Once Shaq accepted his role as the second option behind Kobe we were unstoppable. Kobe accomplished damn there as much without Shaq as he did with him.
    2000 NBA Finals

    Shaq- 38 PPG, 17 RPG, 2.5 APG, 2.7 BPG, 61% FG 96/157----6 games
    Kobe-16 PPG, 5 RPG, 4 APG, 1.4 BPG, 36% FG%, 33/90----5 games

    2001 NBA Finals

    Shaq- 33 PPG, 16 RPG, 5 APG, 3.5 BPG, 63/110 57% FG-----5 games
    Kobe- 24 PPG, 8 RPG, 6 APG, 1.4 BPG, 44/106 41% FG------5 games

    2002 NBA Finals

    Shaq- 37 PPG, 12.25 RPG, 4 APG, 2.75 BPG, 50/84 60% FG----4 games
    Kobe-26 PPG, 5.75 RPG, 5 APG, .75 BPG, 36/70 51% FG-------4 games




    2004 NBA finals 5 games loss
    Shaq= 27 PPG, 11 RPG, 2 APG, .6 BPG, 53/84 63% FG
    Kobe=22 PPG, 3 RPG, 4 APG, .6 BPG, 43/113 38% FG

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    Career 44% shooter in the playoffs
    shooting under 45% 9 times in the playoffs

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    All I know is Shaqs career was a joke until Kobe became a superstar and took over the league.

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    All I know is Shaqs career was a joke until Kobe became a superstar and took over the league.
    All I know is the Lakers won 3 in a row when Shaq took and made more shots than Kobe.

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    All I know is the Lakers won 3 in a row when Shaq took and made more shots than Kobe.
    Which one of the two has more rings man? Refresh my mind

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    Which one of the two has more rings man? Refresh my mind
    Fisher.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    Laker's best years were with Shaq. The Celtics didn't push LA's in while Shaq was there.

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    All I know is Shaqs career was a joke until Kobe became a superstar and took over the league.
    if this isn't enough proof this guy is an idiot, i don't know what is. You lost all credibility when you were revealed to be a naruto loving got, now you continue to degrade your gay image with horrible basketball takes.

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    having ty touch outside 5 feet of the rim ain't an insurmountable disadvantage for a big man though, and you can never expect to run the offense through a center the way you do with a guard. There were many guards back then (T-Mac, Carter, Ray Allen just to name a few) who would've got the job done just as well in Kobe's place, but there was only one Shaq and dude simply dominated that era.

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    is that why shaq was your leader in field goal attempts and scoring in all of your championship seasons? and is that why in 04 when kobe "took over" you got embarrassed in the finals?
    Not the leader in field goal attempts

    01 Playoffs
    Kobe- 22.4 fga/gm
    Shaq- 21.5 fga/gm

    02 Playoffs
    Kobe- 22.7 fga/gm
    Shaq- 20.2 fga/gm

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    Not the leader in field goal attempts

    01 Playoffs
    Kobe- 22.4 fga/gm
    Shaq- 21.5 fga/gm

    02 Playoffs
    Kobe- 22.7 fga/gm
    Shaq- 20.2 fga/gm
    check the finals...
    and shaq still outscored kobe in those playoffs when kobe was putting up more shots

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    ^ Let's check the Finals stats because that's the only series that matters and because the Sixers/Nets were tougher to play against than the Spurs/Kings, Mr.Arbitrary.

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    Is there no one else? AchillesHeel's Avatar
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    having ty touch outside 5 feet of the rim ain't an insurmountable disadvantage for a big man though, and you can never expect to run the offense through a center the way you do with a guard. There were many guards back then (T-Mac, Carter, Ray Allen just to name a few) who would've got the job done just as well in Kobe's place, but there was only one Shaq and dude simply dominated that era.
    This. 2000 Lakers won the Finals despite Kirby averaging 15.6 ppg on 36.7% shooting, AI,VC,T-Mac,Rip Hamilton,Marbury,Francis,Mobley would have all won with that roster, at least in 2000.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    ^ Let's check the Finals stats because that's the only series that matters and because the Sixers/Nets were tougher to play against than the Spurs/Kings, Mr.Arbitrary.
    shaq was their leading scorer during the full length playoff runs as well.

    in 2001 the spurs starting lineup was Duncan, TOSB Robinson, Antonio Daniels, Tracy Porter, Derek Anderson. some stiff compe ion for Kobe there

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    1ST BALLOT HOF Buddy Mignon's Avatar
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    having ty touch outside 5 feet of the rim ain't an insurmountable disadvantage for a big man though, and you can never expect to run the offense through a center the way you do with a guard. There were many guards back then (T-Mac, Carter, Ray Allen just to name a few) who would've got the job done just as well in Kobe's place, but there was only one Shaq and dude simply dominated that era.
    Really? Then why didn't he get it done with Penny? Once Kobe took over we were destined for success.

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    is that why shaq was your leader in field goal attempts and scoring in all of your championship seasons? and is that why in 04 when kobe "took over" you got embarrassed in the finals?
    lol.....True.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    shaq was their leading scorer during the full length playoff runs as well.

    in 2001 the spurs starting lineup was Duncan, TOSB Robinson, Antonio Daniels, Tracy Porter, Derek Anderson. some stiff compe ion for Kobe there
    Wasn't that the year Anderson got injured by that got Juwan Howard?

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    Yall remember when Narutoluva Begged Kori to delete that thread?

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