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    a coup is totally possible if we keep winning the information war for another 5 years
    Maybe some day, the herded lib s that vote, will realize they are voting for their own chains of poverty.

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    LOL, this coming from a complete partisan hack.

    What a piece of liar.

    I'm still waiting for your proof of this lol dumbass

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    Me? to which party am I BLINDLY, PATHETICALLY loyal?
    The Obama party

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    The Obama party
    bull .

    I'm very disappointed in Obama, but now I understand better now than a few years ago that America is totally ed and un able, no matter how Dem or "socialist" any President, or party, that tries to help, defend the 99% and the environment against corporate, financial predations and wealth-sucking.

    Most of the attacks on Obama are bull , which I point out not in his defense, but in exposing the bull . eg, Obama worse than dubya is pure bull .

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    bull .

    I'm very disappointed in Obama, but now I understand better now than a few years ago that America is totally ed and un able, no matter how Dem or "socialist" any President, or party, that tries to help, defend the 99% and the environment against corporate, financial predations and wealth-sucking.

    Most of the attacks on Obama are bull , which I point out not in his defense, but in exposing the bull . eg, Obama worse than dubya is pure bull .
    Oh really. Bombing more countries than Bush in only half the time, a kill list with American citizens he's already killed without due process, deporting more Mexicans than Bush, more pot busts, his war on whistle blowers, transparency lol

    Bush may have killed more ppl in Iraq, but there are many ways in which fraud child mass murdering Peace Prize Obama is worse.

    And let's not forget how he has backed Bush and totally protected Bush/Cheney from prosecution of war crimes.

    Same person. And making things worse.

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    Greatest President since FDR to be honest....
    Ike?

    I have him even with Truman, but good call.

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    Obamacare will NOT be sabotaged in the blue states and it will become a lasting monument to Obama.

    the red-states can go themselves like they're ing over their poor (of all colors) by not implementing Obamacare.

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    Obama care will be a stopgap until a more universal system comes around. He'll get props for getting the ball rolling.

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    Obamacare will NOT be sabotaged in the blue states and it will become a lasting monument to Obama.

    the red-states can go themselves like they're ing over their poor (of all colors) by not implementing Obamacare.
    Why do the unions hate it?

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    Why do the unions hate it?
    they don't hate it, you and your propaganda

    the unions see some problems, are being wary, and want any problems THAT AFFECT THEM fixed, not ACA defunded or repealed. There will be plenty of problems in any program so complex, and they will be fixed.

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    Obama wins again!!! All he does is win win win no matter what... got money on his mind, he can never get enough... and whenever he steps into the building everybody's hands go up! And they stay there! And they stay there! Up down, Up down, Up down... because all he does is win... win... win... put your hands in the air and make 'em stay there!

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    Obama care will be a stopgap until a more universal system comes around. He'll get props for getting the ball rolling.
    I think this is about right.

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    I think this is about right.
    Pretty much -- which is why I laugh every time I hear repugs say that "it's a slippery slope to :gasp: UNIVERSAL SOCIALIZED HEALTHCARE"... because for once, they're actually right.
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    'UNIVERSAL SOCIALIZED HEALTHCARE'

    no-profit govt run health insurance and health care would be cheaper than "free market" capitalistic (our health care bills gotta pay dividends to shareholders), inefficient wealth-sucking health care we have now.

    America is already deeply socialized, where a few Animals are a lot more equal than other Animals, but you right-wing ers are too stupid to see it, so easily duped by the VRWC propaganda.

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    Slate Pitch: Obama Is the Shrewdest Political Tactician Since LBJ

    Whether by design or dumb luck, Obama succeeded in placing Putin on the hook for Assad's chemical weapons. The Russian leader was now acknowledging that Assad's stockpile was indeed a problem and, more important, assuming the role of guarantor. Certainly, the subsequent negotiations would be difficult, with Assad likely to slow-walk and obfuscate. But having sucked Putin into the process, Obama had increased the odds of achieving his chief goal: preventing the further use of chemical weapons by the regime. With Russia-brokered talks underway, could Assad deploy chemical weapons again? Doing so would risk embarrassing (and maybe angering) Putin, Assad's top benefactor.

    Back home, Obama has placed House Speaker Boehner in a different sort of hot seat.

    By declining to negotiate with Boehner about defunding Obamacare in order to prevent a government shutdown, the president has fueled the ongoing civil war within GOP ranks. True, this pitched battle would wage with or without Obama, as tea partiers try to hold the government hostage in order to destroy Obama's health care program and less extreme Republicans contend that this act of political terrorism will backfire against their party. But sometimes in politics, it takes discipline to stand back and not get in the way when an opponent is self-immolating.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...cal-strategist


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    obama is an average at best president. maybe even below average.

    but the dumb republicans really make him look good .

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    No, he's well below average

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    No, he's well below average
    Wherever he is eventually in the evaluations of Presidential historians, he is MANY grades above where Presidents McLiar or Bishop Gecko would have been.

    The proof that Obamacare is a fantastic PROGRESSIVE accomplishment is in the extreme, dishonest, bad-faith sabotaging all the Repugs, VRWC, corps are waging against it, exactly like they want to destroy, or have destroyed, FDR's and LBJ's PROGRESSIVE accomplishments for the 99%. Whatever those mother ers are against is definitely good for the 99%, and if they're for it, eg privatize SS, it's bad for the 99%.
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