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Putin's ploy will take months of talking, and then have very little chance of affecting Assad's control of his WMD, taking all pressure off Assad.
Putin's ploy will take months of talking, and then have very little chance of affecting Assad's control of his WMD, taking all pressure off Assad.
All these supposed "libertarians" kissing Putin's ass aren't doing their image a whole lot of good.
What are the reasons you dislike Obama? And what are the reasons you like Putin?
US struggles show hazards of chemical weapons destruction
The US vowed to destroy its cache of chemical weapons by 2012. But tons of nerve agents remain in Colorado and Kentucky – reflecting how complicated the process could prove in Syria
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ns-destruction
... in the middle of a civil war.
pretty much same reasons we all dislike Bush. Incompetence, sell out, no leadership skills, liar, etc
I don't like Putin at all, but I like the fact that he is standing up to the warmongers, the neocons and the extremists. Nice refreshing to see scales a bit more balanced so to say. Plus as a leader he runs circles around Obama and co. And let's face it, sometimes a country needs tough leaders, Russia was getting soft.And what are the reasons you like Putin?
let's face it, Obama is just another US president living through the Putin era
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Are you so unperceptive that you're unable to see that Putin is saying these things for purely self aggrandizing reasons and that he clearly does not mean them? You chastise Obama for saying one thing and doing another, but praise Putin for doing the same?pretty much same reasons we all dislike Bush. Incompetence, sell out, no leadership skills, liar, etc
I don't like Putin at all, but I like the fact that he is standing up to the warmongers, the neocons and the extremists. Nice refreshing to see scales a bit more balanced so to say. Plus as a leader he runs circles around Obama and co. And let's face it, sometimes a country needs tough leaders, Russia was getting soft.
let's face it, Obama is just another US president living through the Putin era
What does Putin not mean?
The machismo thing is a well known propaganda tool that Putin uses. Che once again demonstrates that he is as gullible as the day is long.
I have no problem admitting Obama has not come close to living up to what he promised. That said, he's also not jailing his own citizens for be LGBT like Putin is. As someone who supposedly champions human rights, you have to understand why you lose all credibility when you elevate Putin. I'm sorry. You're a hypocrite.
Nah, he just murders them without due process..
Oh and have you forgotten the NDAA and his war on whistleblowers?
Nope, not at all. I just like that he put the fraud child mass murdering Obama in his place and called him out on his lies for the world to see. But you can spin it however you like, whatever makes you feel better.
You are just cheering for a different child murderer tbh.
Thanks for admitting Obama is a child murderer
chumps period Pentagon explosion
How exactly does he "run circles around Obama and co"? Could you give me an example of a policy he's pushed? Why exactly does Russia need a "tough leader", but America doesn't? What cons utes a "tough" leader?pretty much same reasons we all dislike Bush. Incompetence, sell out, no leadership skills, liar, etc
I don't like Putin at all, but I like the fact that he is standing up to the warmongers, the neocons and the extremists. Nice refreshing to see scales a bit more balanced so to say. Plus as a leader he runs circles around Obama and co. And let's face it, sometimes a country needs tough leaders, Russia was getting soft.
let's face it, Obama is just another US president living through the Putin era
um he stopped the American navy and airforce on its tracks by exploiting the stupidity of Sec Kerry for starters?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...mes-oped-syria
Since Che discounts human rights watch he should not bother reading this concerning his midget hero.
Che has crossed into the stupid Rubicon
Details...details
The Obama administration has been working on Syrian plan with Russia for over a year.
"He mentioned that that occurred during the G-20 meeting , when he met with Putin -- that he would assign Kerry to discuss diplomatic alternatives," added Sen. Dean er (R-Nev.).
A senior administration official confirmed to The Huffington Post that Obama and Putin first discussed the concept in Los Cabos at the G-20 in June 2012. After the first plenary session, while world leaders were mingling, Obama and Putin went to a corner of the room and spoke for nearly half an hour about Syria.
"Putin broached the idea that had been discussed in previous meeting about reaching an international agreement to remove chemical weapons," said the official. "Obama agreed that could be an avenue for cooperation, and said that Kerry and Lavrov should follow up on the concept to shape a potential proposal. Putin agreed to relay that to Lavrov."
Kerry, Lavrov and Putin spoke about it again in April when the secretary of state visited Moscow.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3901863.html
en Obama haters...
Obama is playing chess while his haters play burn the cross...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3893951.htmlPresident Obama is the only one in the world who has staunchly stood his ground for a military strike against Assad, and who has the power to do that even without the consent of Congress.
Keeping that card on the table made Russia blink and offer Assad a way out of avoiding a bloodbath and look like a Romanian dictator by accepting Putin's offer to put his chemicals and gas weapons under International control.
We still have to wait and see, but it's looking like the stick and carrot is working!
"MOSCOW — In a surprise move, Russia promised Monday to push its ally Syria to place its chemical weapons under international control and then dismantle them quickly to avert U.S. strikes."
Didn't Obama want chemical weapons out of Syria? Do you think he would rather do it by bombing them, or by Putin doing it?
Do you think the American people, overall, would prefer to bomb Syria, or to have Putin take care of it?
Do you think that attacking Syria fits more along the lines of a policy you'd prefer? Or would you rather it be taken care of diplomatically without additional bloodshed?
What Putin didn't tell the American People
Read more here:There is not a single mention in Putin’s article, addressed to the American people, of the egregious crimes committed by the Syrian government and extensively do ented by the UN Commission of Inquiry, local and international human rights groups, and numerous journalists: deliberate and indiscriminate killings of tens of thousands of civilians, executions, torture, enforced disappearances and arbitrary arrests. His op-ed also makes no mention of Russia’s ongoing transfer of arms to Assad throughout the past two and a half years.
The Russian president strategically emphasizes the role of Islamic extremists in the Syrian conflict. Yes, many rebel groups have committed abuses and atrocities. Yet Putin fails to mention that it is the Syrian government that is responsible for shooting peaceful protesters (before the conflict even started) and detaining and torturing their leaders – many of whom remain detained – and that the continued failure of the international community to respond to atrocities in Syria allows crimes on all sides to continue unaddressed.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/09/12/d...merican-people
More like he found an opportunity to save face when Kerry backed into a solution.
I'm not completely sure this was a Kerry accident anymore tbh.
"Kerry accident"
Obama and Putin discussed in Moscow controlling Assad's WMD.
It's really ignorant for anybody to think Kerry blurted out the idea accidentally, as if he and his staff and WH had never considered it.
Can't know for sure, but this could have been an agreed upon invitation for Syria-guardian Putin to step in, where if it had come from the USA, Putin and Assad would have had better ground to resist US imperialistic policing.
I don't get how someone can say Putin totally stopped America's policy to remove chemical weapons from Assad, by Putin agreeing to remove chemical weapons from Assad.
Military attacks were a TACTIC being planned in order to achieve the OBJECTIVE of removing chemical weapons. The OBJECTIVE wasn't to bomb Syria.
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