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    Shoving straw into my mouth? I have never said this is impossible. Im saying its undoubtedly impossible for clown pilots to pull off three times flawlessly. Even the Italian pilot you cited said there would be a high probability for error. Drones dont handle bloody controls. They dont have minimal flight hours. They dont give a damn bout no stinking buzzers. They fly as good as the guy behind the joystick...who is not subject to environmental stressors.

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    Landings happen at 540mph? You reaching hard, chump.

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    no black boxes

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    Shoving straw into my mouth? I have never said this is impossible. Im saying its undoubtedly impossible for clown pilots to pull off three times flawlessly. Even the Italian pilot you cited said there would be a high probability for error. Drones dont handle bloody controls. They dont have minimal flight hours. They dont give a damn bout no stinking buzzers. They fly as good as the guy behind the joystick...who is not subject to environmental stressors.
    The first thing you wanted debunked was Lear's contention that it wasn't a plane of any kind -- drone or not.

    I am glad to point out the implications of your posts.

    Landings happen at 540mph? You reaching hard, chump.
    Just showing they aren't the tiny targets you make them out to be.

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    A plane can land itself. A plane cant pull out of descent at 540-580mph and hit a target on cue. Your arguments are less than weak. They are not even comparable.

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    A plane can land itself. A plane cant pull out of descent at 540-580mph and hit a target on cue.
    The paper just proved it could. You incredulity is not an argument.

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    Your working with the short end of the stick defending these clown pilots' capabilities. A for effort. No debunking yet though.

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    Your working with the short end of the stick defending these clown pilots' capabilities. A for effort. No debunking yet though.
    No defense necessary, they didn't have to be good pilots to so this. All their actions show they were pretty bad pilots tbh.

    If neither a plane nor a drone hit the buildings, what do you say hit the buildings?

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    I meant autopilot. As in hands free. Not capability. For the record, an experienced pilot with no blood or clacking could pull off this manuever OCCASIONALY. Clown pilots? It would take luck, Allah, and a seasoned pilot to get er done.

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    Straw man bull . Who said no drones? Ive shown drones were LIKELY.

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    I meant autopilot. As in hands free. Not capability. For the record, an experienced pilot with no blood or clacking could pull off this manuever OCCASIONALY. Clown pilots? It would take luck, Allah, and a seasoned pilot to get er done.
    Whose word are you taking one this?

    Straw man bull . Who said no drones? Ive shown drones were LIKELY.
    Drones are planes made of the same stuff that planes are made of. Lear said they can't be planes.

    You painted yourself into a corner -- they can't be planes of any kind if you believe what Lear wrote.

    What do you think hit the buildings?

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    Operation Northwoods gave me the plot. Its drones dude. The plot is drones, CIA agents boarding fake flights, a Remember the Maine type incident, and a clear path to unending war. You have asked for loose ends tied up and I just spent two threads setting the table for you. W/ love.

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    Operation Northwoods gave me the plot. Its drones dude. The plot is drones, CIA agents boarding fake flights, a Remember the Maine type incident, and a clear path to unending war. You have asked for loose ends tied up and I just spent two threads setting the table for you. W/ love.
    Drones are planes. What part of that do you not understand? Drones would do the same damage Lear claims is impossible and you accepted that claim.

    Lear said no plane hit the buildings, so it you believe Lear, no drone hit the buildings.

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    Drones can be modified anyway you want. Like I said, the technology is 50 years further along than when gubment agents originally concocted this bull . That could have been a cruise missile dressed like a 767 for all I know.

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    Drones can be modified anyway you want.
    Prove that claim. I'll need a link showing a drone can be modified in such a way and why anyone would bother to make a drone act not like a plane when it hits a building.
    Like I said, the technology is 50 years further along than when gubment agents originally concocted this bull . That could have been a cruise missile dressed like a 767 for all I know.
    How did they load passengers onto a cruise missile?

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    I believe in the Holy Trinity. I agree with John Lear sometimes.

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    I believe in the Holy Trinity. I agree with John Lear sometimes.
    So you no longer believe what he said about tail and wing section impacts?

    OK, that's fine.

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    The drone replaces the actual aircraft midflight. Didnt you read operaion Northwoods? You never read.

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    The drone replaces the actual aircraft midflight. Didnt you read operaion Northwoods? You never read.
    So where does the plane go?

    Where do the hundreds of passengers and dozens of crew go?

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    I dont believe a normal unmodified plane would slice through 14" steel like butter, even after it begins to collidescope, slow and break apart....Wile E. Coyote physics nothwithstanding. Bit then again, I dont think it was a normal passwnger plane to begin with.

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    I dont believe a normal unmodified plane would slice through 14" steel like butter, even after it begins to collidescope, slow and break apart....Wile E. Coyote physics nothwithstanding. Bit then again, I dont think it was a normal passwnger plane to begin with.
    Why do engineers all over the globe believe they can?

    What do you think should have happened?

    You haven't proved that drones are modified to do things like that.

    I'm still waiting on that.

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    Read Operation Northwoods for answers to your questions about passengers. They schemed it all out in that pdf. Dont you read stuff?

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    Read Operation Northwoods for answers to your questions about passengers. They schemed it all out in that pdf. Dont you read stuff?
    I did read it. They never said anything about anything like that. They talked about making up charter flights and their passengers. Nothing about taking over real commercial flights and their passengers and crew.

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    Drones can be the size of mosquitos or rockets or commercial airliners. No proof necessary.

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    Drones can be the size of mosquitos or rockets or commercial airliners. No proof necessary.
    So you give up.

    It was a nice try, but you still went off the rails pretty quickly.

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