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+ a 6000 mAh battery, and I'll be the first in line.
They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...
+ a 6000 mAh battery, and I'll be the first in line.
They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...
Meh, I should have been more clear here. I don't think Samsung is far ahead in innovation, my comment was more targeted at sales and the future of the mobile platform. Android is the most popular mobile phone OS in the world now and Samsung has so much of the Android market that it could border on monopoly soon. Which, of course, will limit Android as a platform.They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...
Well it's up to other Android-powered phone makers to not suck. Samsung is WAY AHEAD of any other Android phone maker in terms of innovation and specs.
I'd actually argue that Sony and HTC are the most innovative in terms of trying new hardware (cameras, building materials) and UI. Sony's 2013 Xperia releases have all had unique form factor or camera additions, and Sense 5.0 is without a doubt the biggest departure from stock Android I've seen yet.
What Samsung is head and shoulders above everyone else is at marketing. They outspend everybody on marketing by such a massive amount it's ridiculous.
Android isn't a difference maker because it's available to every handset maker, and controlled by Google. That's why every handset maker tries hard to differentiate themselves by slapping some custom UI on top, and why Samsung is looking into alternatives like Tizen.
So that leaves you with the design side, and I'm with anakha on that one. I really liked what HTC did with the One. That's a company that was struggling to stick around, took a big gamble, and it paid off. It's the first Android phone that I thought had the right looks, design-wise. Sony is the other company I mentioned before, but again, I think it's difficult for them to differentiate enough to be able to charge a premium and thus get bigger margins. And I think that's something that holds them back from taking on a big gamble.
Samsung has the advantage that they produce most of the high-end components on many phones, including the iPhone, so they have the ability to be first-to-market in many areas. But a lot of their sales come from small-margin markets, and frankly, I've yet to see a Samsung phone that made me go 'wow'.
They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...
leading the way in no one cares about
lors; it's samsung's turn to give us something we'll never use.
ah, that makes more sense. it also helps that android phones are way cheaper than apple. the stupid 5c was supposed to be the cheap model, yet it costs more than just about every other phone out there other than the 5s?
Lame as I can't pre-order a 5s tbh. I better be able to at least reserve one at Best Buy or something.
Plenty of rumblings from investors worried about Samsung keeping up their current pace, wouldn't be surprised to see their stock take a little tumble in the next year or so too.
you cant compare sammy to apple man, sammy produce other besides phones, they also make parts and patented for other companies use in their end products, as for apply how long can they go on with their iphone strategy?
I am talking about Samsung's mobile business, which is pretty much separate from their parts business. Samsung Electronics has a separate stock from the other parts of the business.
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The whole sPen and it's associated app was fairly remarkable, tbh.They aren't. Well, unless you call a bigger screen 'innovation'...
leading the way in no one cares about
They may not populate the market with Fruity Pebble phones but they flood the market with segment-targeted phones.
That's why I love the Galaxy Note. It's their flagship model that hasn't been bas ized ...... yet. I hope they keep the Note to one segment and that is for everyone who wants to have a premium phone that they could be proud of.
The innovation was going *away* from a pen, IMO. Can't stop thinking about Palm Pilot when I see one of those.
Don't forget the Galaxy Gear
They may not populate the market with Fruity Pebble phones but they flood the market with segment-targeted phones.
That's why I love the Galaxy Note. It's their flagship model that hasn't been bas ized ...... yet. I hope they keep the Note to one segment and that is for everyone who wants to have a premium phone that they could be proud of.
I owned one.
But it's innovative now that it's on the Samsung!
Software-wise, you're a million years ahead, obviously.I owned one.
Yeah, it's the associated apps that are really well done.
any third party ones that work well?
Maybe. I think not needing a pen is nice but having it for situations when precision is required is the best of both worlds.
When I'm running custom roms, Papyrus is pretty good. I'm currently running a touchwiz rom and flashed the spen stuff back on it. The Sammy apps are pretty stout.
I'm not arguing there's anything wrong with having a pen. You can even buy one of those for iPhones/iPads. There's simply nothing novel or "innovative" about it.
That was the standard since the Palm Pilot days, and what you see today is just an evolution of that. Innovative was multi-touch and gestures that let you actually use the devices fully *without* a pen (if you were a palm pilot user, you know exactly what I mean
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