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    Really cool the writers found a way to literally have Walt over a barrel in an episode where his dire predicament is the quintessential example of the phrases meaning.

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    Foreshadowing the end? See the reflection?

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    ...most powerful epaiode yet. I was on Team Hank but after tonight, that bas Walt. He went too far and I liked the flashback to when Walt was "still good".

    Jesse is my favorite character but I think the end is near for him.

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    Don't get the hate for Skylar and Walt Jr. after this show. Walt Jr. just found out that Walt basically killed Hank and that he's a drug dealer. Then he sees him wrestling with his mother and a knife? Whats Skylar supposed to do there? She just found out Walt killed family.
    Skyler tried to stab Walt. Walt Jr lied to the police

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    He's the moral center of the show. He didn't ask for any of this. It's not like Skyler, who could have bailed early on but didnt want to because she wanted this life. he was blackmailed into this and nearly everything he got himself into the entire show is either out of survival, loyalty, or a sense of justice. He's overly emotional but its because he's been viciously manipulated by everyone but Mike.
    Are u kidding me? Jesse was trash away before Walt, he should've died long time ago, Walt helped him.

    Jesse has the skills/resources to do something with his life but chose to act like an emo.

    Jesse worked with the police officer(that had beat him up few months ago and also manipulated him and didn't care about his life) because he didn't have the balls to do something with his own hands.

    I will be very disappointed if Jesse kills Walt in the end...

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    I bet Walt misses Mike right now. Big time epic fail on Walt for killing Mike.

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    Yes. They did something together. Everyone who watched the episode knows that they hatched a plan and executed it together. However, the fact that you toss out a word like "solidarity," or equate the act to a high five, or that you thought it was indicative of a long lasting bro-ship just emphasizes how little you actually understood what was happening.

    There is no such thing as "solidarity" when one person is blatantly lying to and manipulating the other. Vince Gilligan shot the destruction of the superlab in such a way as to suggest they were once more on the same side, but it was immediately and intentionally undermined only a few minutes later by the reveal of the lily in Walt's back yard. That's what that shot meant. That was its purpose. That was the entire point. That's why it felt like such a sucker punch when you see the plant before the end credits. Gilligan had to tease victory in order for its faulty foundation to have any emotional impact. But it was never, at any point, even for a moment, intended to suggest the final season would be Walt and Jesse as the dynamic duo.

    I am well aware that they weren't going to be a dynamic duo. The meth lab scene was a setup to yank that carpet out from under anyone who hoped for it. I am not one who applauds that decision. You are free to think otherwise.

    I don't like characters to be treated quite so cynically. That's just me.

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    ^ Still doesn't understand what the phrase "jumped the shark" means.

    Apparently you don't.


    Whatever.


    This show is grasping at this point. JTS. Or darn close. Will be easier to tell after we look back on it.

    Season Five is definitely inferior to 1-4. That's beyond dispute.
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    I bet Walt misses Mike right now. Big time epic fail on Walt for killing Mike.
    Walt would be dead now if he hadn't killed Mike. He had just wasted Mike's entire crew in Jail, and knew Mike would kill him. There were only two ways it was going down: Walt Kills Mike or Mike kills Walt.

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    Are u kidding me? Jesse was trash away before Walt, he should've died long time ago, Walt helped him.

    Jesse has the skills/resources to do something with his life but chose to act like an emo.

    Jesse worked with the police officer(that had beat him up few months ago and also manipulated him and didn't care about his life) because he didn't have the balls to do something with his own hands.

    I will be very disappointed if Jesse kills Walt in the end...
    Amazing that people are still on Team Walt. Vince Gilligan doesn't even understand that, according to Talking Bad. They said that this season seems to be Vince saying over and over "Oh, so you're still on Team Walt? What about now?" as he has Walt do something worse and more de able than the week before.

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    I seriously don't understand the hatred for any of these characters except Walt. If I had any lingering hope that he'd get out of this mess intact, it's gone now after this episode. He has literally destroyed every person's life on the show (not to mention the people he indirectly hurt due to gang/drug violence, the victims of the airline crash, casualties in the nursing home, etc). Yes, Skyler willingly aided Walt while she should have ran the first chance she got. And yes, Jesse probably would've been in prison or dead by now without Walt. But that doesn't excuse everything Walt did. Watching him lie and manipulate both of them over the course of the show was hard to watch at times.

    - I understand Flynn being distraught by this revelation, but calling the police on your dad is out of line, tbh..he saw Skylar pull the knife first, why didn't he stop her or say anything?..if he believed Walt is a drug kingpin, why didn't he listen to him when Walt told the family they need to leave immediately?..why didn't he consider that Walt risked his life by cooking meth for his re ed ass?..why didn't he believe Walt when he denied killing Hank?.. ty son, tbh..
    That makes no sense tbh. You are talking about a 16 (17?) year old kid who just found out that his dad is a drug dealer and was arrested by his uncle. Now he shows up at their door in a panic and it's revealed that the uncle is dead. What conclusion do you think he's going to draw? At least he had the sack to do what Skyler didn't, turn him in.

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    Any hate for Walter Jr's "betrayal" makes no sense. He just got told that his father is a drug dealing maniac, and now an uncle who he was really close to is dead, and his father appears to be the guy who killed him. If anything, be pissed off at C.unt Mother of the Millenium, who demonized his father to him while conveniently leaving out all those details about her being directly involved in the drug empire, and planting the "Walter killed Uncle Hank" seed in Junior's mind without a shred of proof.

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    yeah Walt Jr is one of two recurring characters who hadn't broke bad, Gomez being the other one.

    Jr simply did what he thought was best to protect his mom and sister.

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    Skyler has to ing die. If she survives i might seriously regret ever watching this show. I've never hated a TV character more than this. Cheese from The Wire, or maybe Billy from Six Feet Under are in 2nd place, but neither are even 1/10000th as much as i hate Skyler.

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    Skyler has to ing die. If she survives i might seriously regret ever watching this show. I've never hated a TV character more than this. Cheese from The Wire, or maybe Billy from Six Feet Under are in 2nd place, but neither are even 1/10000th as much as i hate Skyler.
    LOL, one of my favorite parts of every Monday is reading your hatred for Skyler.

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    Walt and Skyler should die. Marie will probably live with Walt Jr. No ing idea about Jesse.

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    Walt and Skyler should die. Marie will probably live with Walt Jr. No ing idea about Jesse.
    Yeah it makes sense for Marie to survive and take the kids. I wouldn't mind seeing Marie kill Skyler, but my fantasy is for Walt to strangle that till she's lifeless. If that actually happens i will probably orgasm violently.

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    At least Hank died doing something he loved - Being surrounded by minerals

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    Yeah it makes sense for Marie to survive and take the kids. I wouldn't mind seeing Marie kill Skyler, but my fantasy is for Walt to strangle that till she's lifeless. If that actually happens i will probably orgasm violently.
    Yeah while Walt is the villain, I do not get the Skyler sympathy. I never liked her, but gave her the benefit of the doubt as she was being lied to about the meth cooking.

    But Walt summed it up perfectly in the car - that isn't better. She needs to go the way of Lady Macbeth tbh.

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    So who exactly is going after Skyler next week? The nazis? Why? They have Walt's money and Jesse to cook for them. What else do they want?

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    At least Hank died doing something he loved - Being surrounded by minerals

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    Amazing that people are still on Team Walt. Vince Gilligan doesn't even understand that, according to Talking Bad. They said that this season seems to be Vince saying over and over "Oh, so you're still on Team Walt? What about now?" as he has Walt do something worse and more de able than the week before.
    If Vince Gillian wanted people to hate Walt he would've made Walt kill Brock/Hank.

    After this episode Walt just gained more respect, once again he did put ass on the line for his( ) wife/traitor Flynn and Holly. Lost his money trying to save Hank.

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    If Vince Gillian wanted people to hate Walt he would've made Walt kill Brock/Hank.

    After this episode Walt just gained more respect, once again he did put ass on the line for his( ) wife/traitor Flynn and Holly. Lost his money trying to save Hank.
    @ calling his son a traitor. What a bizarre/twisted perspective. And he made the call the inadvertently got Hank and Gomez killed.

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    So who exactly is going after Skyler next week? The nazis? Why? They have Walt's money and Jesse to cook for them. What else do they want?
    Big question definitely. I don't see why the Nazi's would, but they are the most probable still.

    My other guesses are Feds, or people from Gus' past looking for Walt.

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    The description on the episode says "Events set in motion long ago move toward a conclusion", which makes me think Gus' backstory comes into play.

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