Flying High

[TeyshaBlue]

300 Americans killed by a bombed airplane

What's the difference? We got 300M more.

How many Americans are killed every year in accidents with guns of less gun nuts?

Pales in comparison to the brain cells killed by one of your posts.

[boutons_deux]

" " less gun nuts" compose a rather incredibly small percentage of gun crime in this country"

I said accidents, as in hunting and domestic, not crime. I think several dozen kids are killed/year in gun accidents in TX alone.

300 dead in a underpants-bombed plane out of 300M is 0.0001%, is that infinitesimal enough for you?

35K die in US every year for want of health care.

US spends 100s of $Bs on "security" to kill a few 1000 ragheads 10K miles away, but can't find the money to save 35K US lives/year.

The big diff is that the MIC spends 100s of $Ms on lobbying the US into permanent war and wasteful, ridiculous defense extravagance, while the 35K dead people don't have any lobbyists.

[TeyshaBlue]

" " less gun nuts" compose a rather incredibly small percentage of gun crime in this country"

I said accidents, as in hunting and domestic, not crime. I think several dozen kids are killed/year in gun accidents in TX alone.

300 dead in a underpants-bombed plane out of 300M is 0.0001%, is that infinitesimal enough for you?

35K die in US every year for want of health care.

US spends 100s of $Bs on "security" to kill a few 1000 ragheads 10K miles away, but can't find the money to save 35K US lives/year.

The big diff is that the MIC spends 100s of $Ms on lobbying the US into permanent war and wasteful, ridiculous defense extravagance, while the 35K dead people don't have any lobbyists.

First of all, nice job paraphrasing USA Today.

Before you poison the atmosphere of actual, meaningful healthcare reform any further, take the time to actually read what you are posting. kthxbye.




I'm just juggling numbers here for the fun of it...but doesn't 35k = 0.1 percent of the total usually claimed to not have any insurance at all?

I don't know what study you're quoting because you didn't bother to post a link or back up this 35k figure. When I look I see figures as high as 45k (From a Harvard study released 9/09 http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE58G6W520090917
Then I see studies that proclaim 18k die each year which is a ridiculous 0.05 percent of that mythical 40 million without insurance. http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...nce-deaths.htm

This just illustrates the sheer idiocy of how we go about quantifying an issue. We'll never have any meaningful shot at reform until we stop pulling idiotic statistics out of our asses and posting them everywhere as if they were anything even casually equated to factual conclusions.
It seems that the only organizations eager or willing to even try to plow through the data are funded by either side of the debate surrounding healthcare. IMHO, objective studies don't get funded at the same rate as applied studies do. For those of us that want actual reform based on basic paradigm shifts in the way we handle healthcare and insurance, this is incredibly frustrating.

[boutons_deux]

so 10K or 40K die from lack of health care, but it's a small percentage of total unisured, it's ok, right?

how many bankruptcies and foreclosures (not deaths) for medical catastrophes are "OK". and when does OK stop being OK and needing fixing?

We can all admit that life in USA is very cheap, and pro-life conservatives and holier-than-thou "Christians" don't give a how many lives are lost or destroyed for lack of medical care.

[TeyshaBlue]

When you get the point I was trying to make, let me know...





p.s....it doesn't involve demonizing anyone or any particular viewpoint. I'll leave that to the middle school mindset or those that cannot form a cogent point.

[Ignignokt]

Great article by Christopher Hitchens. Great thread until Marcus Bryant and Winehole decided to ejaculate on each other once again.

[Winehole23]

We were talking to each other. Guess you can't tell the difference.

[Winehole23]

Do you ever stop thinking of man on man action, gtown?

[Ignignokt]

rofl

You never get old.

[Winehole23]

You never get old.

Can't say the same about you.

[Ignignokt]

Can't say the same about you.

i age like fine wine.

[Winehole23]

Deprived of sunlight and oxygen for decades in a cool dark cave?

[Winehole23]

It shows, gtown.

[Ignignokt]

Deprived of sunlight and oxygen for decades in a cool dark cave?

what does your wanker hiding under your FUPA have to do with terrorism?

[Winehole23]

That stung a little bit, didn't it?

[Ignignokt]

That stung a little bit, didn't it?

Is that what she said?

[Winehole23]

You wouldn't have any idea.

[Winehole23]

That's a good example, WC. What's on your dinner plate will kill you far more quickly and surely than terrorism, but you'll seldom see that in featured in newspapers or on cable TV.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/18...pe-vs-al-qaeda

[boutons_deux]

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/18...pe-vs-al-qaeda

fighting wildly exaggerated terrorism threats redistributes wealth from taxpayers upward to the MIC corporations

making food safe decreases BigFood/BigFarma profits.

Follow the Money. It ALWAYS leads to the truth.

[Winehole23]

one note Johnny strikes again

[boutons_deux]

one note Johnny strikes again

it's the dominant note that rings true, rather than your trivial, sterile debates about minuscule rat

and where's TB with her moonbatiness about truth-out?

[Winehole23]

a blind squirrel sometimes finds the acorn

[TeyshaBlue]

Truth-out.borg continues to lead the moonbat parade. Don't worry. Your confirmation bias feed is intact.

You think about me too much. Get a hobby.