Now I understand why you Gen Yers are so unhappy and jealous of boomers.

[CosmicCowboy]

En led little es...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wait-b...b_3930620.html

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The article is stupid.

He makes up a hypothetical individual. Uses a vague semantic argument off of a single phrase and cherry picks from a single psych study.

One example of why boomers are reviled is Obamacare. How better to pay for boomers health care than by forcing young people to buy insurance they do not need so that boomers can get more free . Nevermind that a person born in 1945 has seen on average $1m in government payouts as opposed to what they have paid in. How else do we have a mul rillion dollar debt?

Yet another boomer hit piece where innuendo is used to deflect from the empirical evidence of your failure. Lets look more at relative economic conditions, voting records, policy decisions, and less at made up names and grandstanding on google's counting the use of "secure career" versus "fulfilling career." Just saying.

[CosmicCowboy]

The article is stupid.

He makes up a hypothetical individual. Uses a vague semantic argument off of a single phrase and cherry picks from a single psych study.

One example of why boomers are reviled is Obamacare. How better to pay for boomers health care than by forcing young people to buy insurance they do not need so that boomers can get more free . Nevermind that a person born in 1945 has seen on average $1m in government payouts as opposed to what they have paid in. How else do we have a mul rillion dollar debt?

Yet another boomer hit piece where innuendo is used to deflect from the empirical evidence of your failure. Lets look more at relative economic conditions, voting records, policy decisions, and less at made up names and grandstanding on google's counting the use of "secure career" versus "fulfilling career." Just saying.

Yet you voted for Obama and I didn't.

[The Reckoning]

it's because self en led boomers who leached off of the production and pumped up the investment bubble (knowing it will burst) paid for by the blood, sweat, and tears of the GOAT generation. they teach their children that the world is theirs and that they're better than everyone - meanwhile gorging themselves, not taking care of their bodies, setting bad examples by inflating serial monogamy practices and advocating wage/living disparity.

kids grow up feeling en led then hit depression when the real world stops by because of the massive ups of their parents. it's no surprise that gen Y has the first lower standard of living growth than any other generation prior. gen Y is also realizing that in the age of information, the work force is more fluid, work is more flexible and they no longer have to slave to the MAN (baby boomers). enough is enough. highering the standards across the board will result in nothing but growth across all classes. it's the boomers who are en led, and i'm happy to know that gen Y learned from their mistakes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yet you voted for Obama and I didn't.

I didn't vote for Obama. Either time. He is a Chicago politician and I pay attention to history. If I voted major party I would have voted for McCain the first time. I have a tremendous amount of respect for how he handled the SNL crisis back in the 80s.

[boutons_deux]

I didn't vote for Obama. Either time. He is a Chicago politician and I pay attention to history. If I voted major party I would have voted for McCain the first time. I have a tremendous amount of respect for how he handled the SNL crisis back in the 80s.

SNL? he was guilty of corruption with the Keating 5, and got some strings pulled to escape barely, extremely poor judgement. As we saw in 08, he's senile and emotionally unstable, and worse now.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

SNL? he was guilty of corruption with the Keating 5, and got some strings pulled to escape barely, extremely poor judgement. As we saw in 08, he's senile and emotionally unstable, and worse now.

He was cleared if wrongdoing unlike some of his colleagues.

He admitted to making a mistake and got behind the reregulation that was passed a couple of years later. It seems pretty obvious to me considering his actions following the SNL scandal that he felt like he got ed by the banksters and hes been openly against them since. He and Warren seem to be the only two people in the Senate that give a about banking regulation. He has also been going hard at overseas tax shelters and avoidance by US firms. I like them both.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oh and I forgot. Its too damn bad that McCain-Feingold got struck down. Ever since Keating tried to hang him out to dry, he has been on a mission regarding campaign financing and political influence of firms. If you something up I like to see people try and make right by it.

[Clipper Nation]

at the Boomers - a.k.a. the "Me Generation" - calling anyone else en led....

[Clipper Nation]

If I voted major party I would have voted for McCain the first time.

Sorry, I can't take anyone seriously who would have voted for that neocon shill McCain and ing Palin, tbh....

[Rogue]

Boomers inherited the world's wealthiest country from their parents and what they're bequeathing to their children is nothing but an astronomical figure of debt that will never be paid off. I'm jealous of their rights to live their lives in an abusive way while being able to maintain a bourgeois life style.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sorry, I can't take anyone seriously who would have voted for that neocon shill McCain and ing Palin, tbh....

I think you may want to look up what a shill is. I guess you could call all politicians shills but as politicians go McCain is more forthcoming and direct than most. You don't shill by passing campaign finance laws, pushing through banking regulation and going after corporate tax shelters. Who is he shilling for anyway? His ties to the military are pretty obvious.

And I will take old school neocons over the current brand of GOP every day and twice on Sundays. More Buckley please.

I wouldn't have voted for Palin. I would have voted for McCain over Obama. There is no good choice in that cir stance and I am more than fine with McCain over Obama. VP's are largely irrelevant in terms of actual policy although they are influential in internal party politics. I don't give a rat's ass about the GOP though. If you prefer Obama over McCain then you go with your bad self.

I don't vote major party so it doesn't matter either way.

[boutons_deux]

McLiar shills for the neocon MIC, "bomb bomb bomb Iran" is his idea of a joke when running for President.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As I said, his ties to the military are pretty obvious. That's like saying Sean Elliott is shilling for the Spurs.

You guys don't seem to understand what a shill is. A shill tries to hide his connections to what he is advocating. It's should be obvious that McCain is buddy buddy to the DoD.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If you want an example of a shill then you have Obama. He talked up transparency, banking regulation, and corporate interest running up to elections. What did we get? Not that.

Hate on McCain's policy fine but at least you know what his policy is. He does push banking regulation and special interest reform. It's not as if he has in action any different position than Obama regarding being a hawk. It's evident that in fact Obama is a hawk isn't it?

So what's different between the two? McCain actually pushes for banking regulation and interest reform instead of talking about it but not doing if not the opposite?

[scott]

Dumb article, great illustrations

[AntiChrist]

Hilarious article. Very surprised that was on HuffPo.

[ChumpDumper]

CC was en led to his Obamacarts.

[LnGrrrR]

I guess wanting a decent wage, good healthcare etc etc is whiny. But hey, we have iPhones and the Internet so why should we be complaining, amirite?

[symple19]

http://aweinstein.kinja.com/ -you...itl-1333588443

You. I'm Gen Y, and I Don't Feel Special or En led, Just Poor.

A bunch of you people on Facebook and Twitter keep sharing a Huff Po stick-figure thing about how Gen Y is unhappy because they’re unrealistic delusional ingrates.
You know, this thing.
If you wrote that, or you liked that, carefully consider these thoughts:
1) These are weirdly contrived generational categories, too weird for such black-and-white reasoning. I’ve always thought myself more tail-end-of-Gen-X in temperament, age, and outlook. But '77-'79 is a sociologically ambiguous no-man's land, and we typically get lumped in with the millennials, especially when it comes to money matters.
2) Go f**k yourselves.
You have no idea about student debt, underemployment, life-long renting. “Stop feeling special” is some ty advice. I don’t feel special or en led, just poor. The only thing that makes me special is I have more ballooning debt than you. I’ve tempered the out of my expectations of work, and I’ve exceeded those expectations crazily to have one interesting, exciting damned career that’s culminated in some leadership roles for national publications. And I’m still poor and in debt and worked beyond the point where it can be managed with my health and my desire to actually see the son I’m helping to raise.
Younger journos see me as a success story and ask my advice, and I feel like a fraud, because I’m doing what I love, and it makes me completely miserable and exhausts me.
Last weekend my baby had a fever, and we contemplated taking him to the ER, and my first thought was - had to be - “Oh God, that could wipe out our bank account! Maybe he can just ride it out?” Our status in this Big Financial Game had sucked my basic humanity towards my child away for a minute. If I wish for something better, is that me simply being en led and delusional?
There *are* delusions at play here, but they are not our generation's. They play out as two contradictory lectures that we are told, simultaneously, by our monied elders:
1) This is AMERICA. Everybody does better than their parents!
2) This is AMERICA. Suck it up and quit ing that you're not as well-off as your parents!
The latter maxim lurks in the heart of every critique of millennials. It assumes that if we're worse off than previous generations, the fault is ours, and our complaints are so much white whine. We should shut up and be content, because we do work less than our forebears, and spend more time enraptured by our own navels, trying to divine some life-affirming creative direction in them.
But there's nothing for us to suck up, really. As a rule, our parents did end up much more dedicated to their careers than we have. But as a rule, they were laid off less. They didn't intern or work as independent contractors. They got full medical. They were occasionally permitted to adopt magical unicorn-like money-granting creatures called "pensions." Or, barring that, they ac ulated a huger 401K to cash out before the Great Recession, because they saved more. And they saved more because the costs of college, of kid care, of health care, of doing business and staying alive and buying groceries and staying connected, were far less than they are today. They could raise a family on one salary if necessary.
They had room to advance and buy things. Yes, even the creatives. I once listened to a professor, who is in his sixties, read us the first published piece he'd been paid for, in the late 1970s. A thousand words or so. The rate, he says, was something like two bucks a word. That's four times what the Village Voice pays today, even for an award-winning investigative cover story. It's geometrically greater than what most writers can earn today writing daily brilliance for nationally renowned publications online. And writing daily brilliance, which many of them do, is hard goddamned work.
If I had a dollar for every older writer or editor who confided to me that "I don't know how young writers do it today; I certainly couldn't," I could buy every property that publishes them.
So no, we shan't be doing as well as our parents, and no, we shan't be shutting up about it. If anything, those of us who have been cowed into silence because college-educated poor problems aren't real poor problems should shed our fears and start talking about just how hard it really isout there, man.
This state of affairs does not exist because we're en led and have simply declined to work as hard as the people that birthed us. American workers have changed from generation to generation: Since 1979, the alleged Dawn of the Millennial, the average U.S. worker has endured a 75 percent increase in productivity...while real wages stayed flat.
Those changes are blips on a timeline compared to the massive, psyche-altering vicissitudes of American Industry, its self-Taylorization to the point where profit-making and shareholder value have been maximized in ways that Morgans and Carnegies and Vanderbilts couldn't even have conceived — in ways that have stiffed workers and the families they can no longer afford. Since '79, the top 1 percent of earners in America has seen their income quadruple.
So take your “revise your expectations! check your ego!” Horatio Alger bull , and stuff it. While you’re at it, stuff this economy. Not this GDP, not this unemployment level: this economy, this financial system that establishes complete social and political control over us, that conditions us to believe that we don’t deserve basic shelter and clothing and food and education and existence-sustaining medical care unless we throw our lives into vassalage and hope, pray, that the lords don’t with our retirements or our coverages. (Maybe if we’re extra productive, someday they’ll do a 4o1K match again, like our ancestors used to talk about!)
Take the system that siphons off our capacities for human flourishing in hopes that we get thrown a little coin of the realm in return. Take that system and blow it up, you cowards.
Oh, and also, stop thinking that you’re special.

[The Reckoning]

CC getting his pushed in per par. Go back to lawn bowling on money you borrowed from us, old timer.

[Clipper Nation]

Baby Boomers
Ruining the economy, voting yourselves a cut of our money and then blaming us for it all
The most en led and delusional generation in American history
Low-information Boomer voters electing the Boomer career politicians who perpetuate this bull

[leemajors]

http://aweinstein.kinja.com/ -you...itl-1333588443

Just saw that He is destroying in the comments too

[CosmicCowboy]

For ALL of you guys that fall for this inter generational blame game let me break it to you...every generation has it's winners and losers. It's up to you to decide how bad you want it and how much you are willing to work for it.

There are plenty of guys in your generation kicking ass, my kids included.

Scott's a great example...he's gonna be a wealthy guy some day because he is smart, works hard, sets goals, balances risk and reward, and then goes after what he wants. He is not sitting back waiting for someone to take care of him and is willing to risk great failure to achieve great success.

Do y'all really think you are the first generation of Americans to think the previous generation made mistakes? , We were the "draft" generation for a Vietnam War that we hated and made no sense. No "volunteer army" bull . I graduated from college into a Jimmy Carter stagflated economy with wage and price controls and double digit inflation and interest rates. That was immediately followed by the S&L crisis that devastated the Texas economy for years. None of that was my generations fault but I don't remember anyone whining about it and blaming our parents. We just (at least my peers that I hung out with) worked harder and fought to break out and get ahead.

[johnsmith]

For ALL of you guys that fall for this inter generational blame game let me break it to you...every generation has it's winners and losers. It's up to you to decide how bad you want it and how much you are willing to work for it.

There are plenty of guys in your generation kicking ass, my kids included.

Scott's a great example...he's gonna be a wealthy guy some day because he is smart, works hard, sets goals, balances risk and reward, and then goes after what he wants. He is not sitting back waiting for someone to take care of him and is willing to risk great failure to achieve great success.

Do y'all really think you are the first generation of Americans to think the previous generation made mistakes? , We were the "draft" generation for a Vietnam War that we hated and made no sense. No "volunteer army" bull . I graduated from college into a Jimmy Carter stagflated economy with wage and price controls and double digit inflation and interest rates. That was immediately followed by the S&L crisis that devastated the Texas economy for years. None of that was my generations fault but I don't remember anyone whining about it and blaming our parents. We just (at least my peers that I hung out with) worked harder and fought to break out and get ahead.

I don't think from an individual point of view that anyone is arguing that a gen y'er should be able to get ahead without working hard (except maybe in the hypothetical op article). What everyone seems to be saying is that the boomers ed up the entire world...and I don't see how you could deny that. Global economy, politics, and business are all pretty ed up and the people that have been in charge of leading the world down the ter has been the the boomer generation.