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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/wo....html?src=recg

    The U.S. and their allies financing the same terrorists, that allegedly brought down those 2 towers, and thousands of lives..

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/wo....html?src=recg

    The U.S. and their allies financing the same terrorists, that allegedly brought down those 2 towers, and thousands of lives..
    "Allegedly?"

    Do you agree that the original Al Qaeda executed the 9/11 attacks or not?

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    "Allegedly?"

    Do you agree that the original Al Qaeda executed the 9/11 attacks or not?
    Who created Al Qaeda? Who trained them, who funded them? Im implying that the CIA, and Al Qaeda have a long history. No I do not believe that 19 Arabs, and a dude living in a cave orchestrated that attack alone... They must of had help, but who?

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    Who created Al Qaeda?
    Bin Laden and Zawahiri.
    Who trained them
    Trained them in what? The regular combat stuff was taught in camps organized by Bin Laden himself. The flight training was done in the US at private flight schools.
    who funded them?
    They were funded by Bin Laden and other Arabs from whom he raised funds. The CIA didn't give the Arab mujahideen any money. They didn't need it and wouldn't have wanted it.
    Im implying that the CIA, and Al Qaeda have a long history.
    I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about.
    No I do not believe that 19 Arabs, and a dude living in a cave orchestrated that attack alone... They must of had help, but who?
    Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was responsible for the actual plan.

    You don't seem to know much about Al Qaeda.

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    Bin Laden and Zawahiri.Trained them in what? The regular combat stuff was taught in camps organized by Bin Laden himself. The flight training was done in the US at private flight schools.They were funded by Bin Laden and other Arabs from whom he raised funds. The CIA didn't give the Arab mujahideen any money. They didn't need it and wouldn't have wanted it. I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about.Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was responsible for the actual plan.

    You don't seem to know much about Al Qaeda.


    bignew burzynski google that

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    The balloonist?

    What about him?

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    You are funding the same people that killed your people? You are such a hypocrite, how un american of you.. If people like you spent as much time arguing MSM bull as you did fighting for our liberty here, and fighting for the cons ution before it gets eradicated, maybe this country would go somewhere besides south.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...syrian-rebels/

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/12/politi...els/index.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ttlefield.html


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    Who created Al Qaeda? Who trained them, who funded them? Im implying that the CIA, and Al Qaeda have a long history. No I do not believe that 19 Arabs, and a dude living in a cave orchestrated that attack alone... They must of had help, but who?
    So you truly believe the US government was complicit in the 9/11 attack?

    I have to try and remember the people on this board who enjoy paranoia...

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    You are funding the same people that killed your people? You are such a hypocrite, how un american of you.. If people like you spent as much time arguing MSM bull as you did fighting for our liberty here, and fighting for the cons ution before it gets eradicated, maybe this country would go somewhere besides south.

    So now you are confusing Afghans with Arabs.

    I'm beginning to think you are lying about being of Syrian decent. No Arab would make such a rookie mistake.

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    So you truly believe the US government was complicit in the 9/11 attack?

    I have to try and remember the people on this board who enjoy paranoia...
    He just called Afghans Arabs.

    He doesn't know what he is talking about at all.

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    Who created Al Qaeda? Who trained them, who funded them? Im implying that the CIA, and Al Qaeda have a long history. No I do not believe that 19 Arabs, and a dude living in a cave orchestrated that attack alone... They must of had help, but who?


    And then it comes out.

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    So now you are confusing Afghans with Arabs.

    I'm beginning to think you are lying about being of Syrian decent. No Arab would make such a rookie mistake.
    what difference does it make? and how is that relevant at all? Im proving my point, and you are spinning it in a laughable fashion.. and how would that statement make you decide im im syrian or not? your judgement is hilarious.

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    "Allegedly?"

    Do you agree that the original Al Qaeda executed the 9/11 attacks or not?
    y do u h8 muslims

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    what difference does it make?
    Now I'm convinced you aren't Arab.
    and how is that relevant at all?
    The CIA didn't fund the Arab mujahideen, which included bin Laden.
    Im proving my point, and you are spinning it in a laughable fashion.
    Actually you are proving yourself to be fantastically ignorant about the region.
    and how would that statement make you decide im im syrian or not?
    OK, maybe your're just the stupidest Syrian to ever walk the earth.

    I'm open to that possibility.

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    Now I'm convinced you aren't Arab.The CIA didn't fund the Arab mujahideen, which included bin Laden.Actually you are proving yourself to be fantastically ignorant about the region.OK, maybe your're just the stupidest Syrian to ever walk the earth.

    I'm open to that possibility.
    ok chumpy

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    So which is it?

    Liar or stupidest Arab?

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    wonder if they'll give them more sarin

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    The largest Muslim population is in Indonesia.
    This does not make Indonesians Arab.
    The majority of Iranians are Persians and Muslims.
    Iranians are not Arab.

    Mamba I think you are getting ethnic groups and religions confused.

    nonetheless, do you believe the US was complicit in the 9/11 attacks?

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    He just called Afghans Arabs.

    He doesn't know what he is talking about at all.
    Origins of the 19 hijackers
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    15

    United Arab Emirates
    2

    Egypt
    1
    Lebanon
    1

    looks to me CHumpdumper doesn't know what the he is talking about

    afghans
    Last edited by cheguevara; 09-17-2013 at 07:33 PM.

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    So you truly believe the US government was complicit in the 9/11 attack?

    I have to try and remember the people on this board who enjoy paranoia...
    sure they are. there is such thing as being indirectly responsible

    you hand 3 billion to Bin Laden and his crew, provide them weapons and training and then wash your hands when 3500 of your citizens are killed by them? that is true insanity
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    The CIA didn't give the Arab mujahideen any money. They didn't need it and wouldn't have wanted it. I'm saying you don't know what you're talking about.Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was responsible for the actual plan.
    from ABC news:
    "In the 1980s, bin Laden left his comfortable
    Saudi home for Afghanistan to participate in the
    Afghan jihad, or holy war, against the invading
    forces of the Soviet Union - a cause that,
    ironically, the United States funded, pouring
    $3 billion into the Afghan resistance via the CIA."


    they didn't need any money

    you have no clue

    chumpdump3r

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    Origins of the 19 hijackers
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    15

    United Arab Emirates
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    Egypt
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    looks to me CHumpdumper doesn't know what the he is talking about

    afghans
    Man, you really don't know what we're talking about. No one was disputing the nationalities of the hijackers. We were discussing who received funding from the CIA in Afghanistan.

    from ABC news:
    "In the 1980s, bin Laden left his comfortable
    Saudi home for Afghanistan to participate in the
    Afghan jihad, or holy war, against the invading
    forces of the Soviet Union - a cause that,
    ironically, the United States funded, pouring
    $3 billion into the Afghan resistance via the CIA."


    they didn't need any money

    you have no clue

    chumpdump3r
    Yeah, read it again.

    pouring $3 billion into the Afghan resistance

    The Arabs didn't get any of that money. They brought their own.

    You just did the exact same thing mamba did.

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    Man, you really don't know what we're talking about. No one was disputing the nationalities of the hijackers.
    He just called Afghans Arabs.




    The Arabs didn't get any of that money. They had their own.
    Bin Laden got that money, the "afghan resistance" got weapons. So yes, the Arab jihadists got the money, they just bought weapons for the afghans with it. You really have no clue what you are talking about. Might be advisable to stick to your question game from now on

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    What part are you not understanding here? Mamba conflated the Afghans with Arabs in his Zbigniew Brzezinski video that you didn't watch.


    Bin Laden got that money, the "afghan resistance" got weapons. So yes, the Arab jihadists got the money, they just bought weapons for the afghans with it. You really have no clue what you are talking about. Might be advisable to stick to your question game from now on
    Bin Laden had his own money and the money he raised from other Arabs. The Arabs weren't significant force in the Afghanistan-Russia war since there were only a couple thousand in country at any given time. There were 250,000 Afghans fighting. The CIA gave money to the Pakistani intelligence agency who transferred it to the Afghans.

    Where are you getting your bull from?

    Infowars?
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 09-17-2013 at 07:54 PM.

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    What part are you not understanding here? Mamba conflated the Afghans with Arabs in his Zbigniew Brzezinski video that you didn't watch.
    this is the only part he mentioned Arabs:
    Who created Al Qaeda? Who trained them, who funded them? Im implying that the CIA, and Al Qaeda have a long history. No I do not believe that 19 Arabs, and a dude living in a cave orchestrated that attack alone... They must of had help, but who?

    Chump


    Bin Laden had his own money and the money he raised from other Arabs.

    Where are you getting this bull from?

    Infowars?
    from the BBC:

    The organisation grew out of the network of Arab volunteers who had gone to Afghanistan in the 1980s to fight under the banner of Islam against Soviet Communism.

    During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding. Some analysts believe Bin Laden himself had security training from the CIA.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1670089.stm


    Chimp

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