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    "I don't see how you could deny that"

    ... because you're ing stupid.

    the 1%/VRWC strategy to reverse the progress of the 1930s (kill Glass-Steagal, bust unions, kill social security) and 1960s (kill ERA, VRA, Medicare, Medicaid), and suck wealth from the 99%, all got going in the early 1970s when the first boomers were years away from the peak of their careers. Who was running the country in the late 60s and in the 70s? The Greatest Generation, not boomers.

    It's always the 1% vs 99%, not generation vs generation.

    Like the 20 and 30 year olds now, plenty of 99% boomers have been ed badly, lost good jobs, homes, incomes as the 1% gamed the govt policies to enrich, protect their wealth.

    After 30 or so years where the US middle class was strong and growing after WWII, the US has now reverted to the historical average of extreme World Champion USA Number One! inequality.

    btw, the top secret TPP is a 1%/VRWC/Corporate strategy to the 99% much worse, placing global capital and global corporations completely beyond the reach of nations.


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    I just don't get how boomers can be deficit hawks while at the same time be the biggest drivers of deficits. Then the boomers have the audacity to blame their kids for all debts the boomers created. btw, I think there's some truth to that article.

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    Do you guys not get that most of us are just as pissed off at Washington as you are?

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    I just don't get how boomers can be deficit hawks while at the same time be the biggest drivers of deficits. Then the boomers have the audacity to blame their kids for all debts the boomers created. btw, I think there's some truth to that article.
    When contemporary demographics show that Boomers as the dominant population set, it's not surprising, tbh. Doesn't matter which set of humans you plunk down in that period..none would have emerged unscathed. The Vietnam war, the counter-culture, the establishment of the science of marketing, the hurricane of tech advances, the nascent secular movement, all these forces and others molded the boomers into what they are perceived to be today.
    It's laughable to suggest that Gen X or Gen Y or Gen what-the- -ever would've walked a different path.

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    "deficit hawks while at the same time be the biggest drivers of deficits"

    The 1% are the deficit hawks since they know tax cuts and breaks FOR THEM, plus the Repug wars they benefit from, are a huge cause of the deficits.

    By closing the deficit by ing over the 99% (public assistance, research, school loans, etc, etc), they want to preclude the 99% using the deficit as a reason to make the 1% pay their fair share.



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    For ALL of you guys that fall for this inter generational blame game let me break it to you...every generation has it's winners and losers. It's up to you to decide how bad you want it and how much you are willing to work for it.

    There are plenty of guys in your generation kicking ass, my kids included.

    Scott's a great example...he's gonna be a wealthy guy some day because he is smart, works hard, sets goals, balances risk and reward, and then goes after what he wants. He is not sitting back waiting for someone to take care of him and is willing to risk great failure to achieve great success.

    Do y'all really think you are the first generation of Americans to think the previous generation made mistakes? , We were the "draft" generation for a Vietnam War that we hated and made no sense. No "volunteer army" bull . I graduated from college into a Jimmy Carter stagflated economy with wage and price controls and double digit inflation and interest rates. That was immediately followed by the S&L crisis that devastated the Texas economy for years. None of that was my generations fault but I don't remember anyone whining about it and blaming our parents. We just (at least my peers that I hung out with) worked harder and fought to break out and get ahead.
    Considering that you just semi-whined about it there, I believe it is likely that, yes, many of your compatriots whined as well.

    I also enjoy how you can blithely dismiss the data that shows the wealthy are getting wealthier and the poor are getting poorer, how education costs are skyrocketing, how it is harder for a single working parent family to support themselves, etc etc.

    Just saying "your generation whines too much and is lazy!" Doesn't make a lot of sense. Do you have any proof that Gen Y is singularly distinctive in its lack of effort/motivation/etc?

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    there's only one thing i'm jealous at boomers for. They got to go to school on the cheap, while we, (thanks to them) have to pay out of our ass for it.

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    Considering that you just semi-whined about it there, I believe it is likely that, yes, many of your compatriots whined as well.

    I also enjoy how you can blithely dismiss the data that shows the wealthy are getting wealthier and the poor are getting poorer, how education costs are skyrocketing, how it is harder for a single working parent family to support themselves, etc etc.

    Just saying "your generation whines too much and is lazy!" Doesn't make a lot of sense. Do you have any proof that Gen Y is singularly distinctive in its lack of effort/motivation/etc?
    There is no proof. There is no whiny and lazy. These are completely subjective descriptors that should never see the light of day.

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    When contemporary demographics show that Boomers as the dominant population set, it's not surprising, tbh. Doesn't matter which set of humans you plunk down in that period..none would have emerged unscathed. The Vietnam war, the counter-culture, the establishment of the science of marketing, the hurricane of tech advances, the nascent secular movement, all these forces and others molded the boomers into what they are perceived to be today.
    It's laughable to suggest that Gen X or Gen Y or Gen what-the- -ever would've walked a different path.
    Very true.

    Being sort of a tweeter, it was much easier to find a job and going to college was very inexpensive.

    However, during the summers I worked construction while working in a lab at night. Most of my friends had one or two jobs during summers. I know this is anecdotal, but the college kids I see everyday are working in very nice conditions during the summer in jobs that do not pay much. I would have been in line for all the menial jobs in the fracking fields. They are/ were begging for drivers, etc... And the pay was quite good. But it is labor intensive and very hot. You show some responsibility and hope to get moved up. I would do very tough jobs outside if it meant more pay. But air conditioning behind a phone or keyboard or in a retail store seem popular. Well everyone wants that for the summer.

    I still get the sense that the older generation feels en led because they worked hard. Well worked is past tense. Many can still work. And many do. The loudest voices seem to be the ones that have too much time on their hands.

    All from my personal experience without any data. And I'm sure it differs a bit State to State.

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    Do you guys not get that most of us are just as pissed off at Washington as you are?
    [shakes fist from seat of Obamacart]

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    [shakes fist from seat of Obamacart]
    That would be Obamacart's...
    One of them is a four seater with stereo surrounds...To serenade them doggies when making the evening ranch rounds....

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    Do you guys not get that most of us are just as pissed off at Washington as you are?
    You're apparently not pissed off enough as a generation to do some research (cable news and Drudge/HuffPo doesn't count), stop parroting the Team Red/Team Blue talking points, and stop electing the same old Boomer career politicians

    Let's be honest: as long as the handouts keep rolling in from out of our pockets, the majority of Boomers don't really give two s about the world they're leaving behind for younger generations, tbh....

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    "the majority of Boomers don't really give two s about the world they're leaving behind for younger generations"

    your as WRONG with your boomer trash talk as you are in choice of NBA team



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    Let's be honest: as long as the handouts keep rolling in from out of our pockets, the majority of Boomers don't really give two s about the world they're leaving behind for younger generations, tbh....
    Let's be honest: Gross generalizations are much easier than thinking. Good job.

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    Aint nothing wrong with the Clips, boutons.

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    Let's be honest: Gross generalizations are much easier than thinking. Good job.
    Actions speak louder than words, and it's the actions of the Boomers in power and at the voting booth that demonstrate a lack of concern for the future, tbh....

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    Actions speak louder than words, and it's the actions of the Boomers in power and at the voting booth that demonstrate a lack of concern for the future, tbh....
    Cause there are no Boomers fighting the good fight. Right. Got it.

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    Also because boomers!!!11

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    Cause there are no Boomers fighting the good fight. Right. Got it.
    Never said that ALL Boomers don't care, tbh....

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    You're right. Just the majority of boomers. Love to see the metrics behind that statement.

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    YPIYR, no doubt.

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    You're right. Just the majority of boomers. Love to see the metrics behind that statement.
    Therefore they aren't?

    lol.

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    Gen Y has had it tougher than all previous generations. Just ask them.

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    Therefore they aren't?

    lol.
    You don't know what you don't know.

    lol

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    When contemporary demographics show that Boomers as the dominant population set, it's not surprising, tbh. Doesn't matter which set of humans you plunk down in that period..none would have emerged unscathed. The Vietnam war, the counter-culture, the establishment of the science of marketing, the hurricane of tech advances, the nascent secular movement, all these forces and others molded the boomers into what they are perceived to be today.
    It's laughable to suggest that Gen X or Gen Y or Gen what-the- -ever would've walked a different path.
    And then you come down and say you don't know what you don't know. Boomer's did walk that path and they did it in cir stances that gave the demographic singular control unlike what any other has enjoyed.

    Obviously it's not fair to single out individuals solely on the basis of demographic information. At the same time railing against policy that was blatant in it's pandering and to the voting bloc that spurs it seems more than fair. I only go after CC because he is the poster boy of bad boomer behavior.

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