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    We were beating OKC, even with a healthy Westbrook. Unless they somehow get Harden back, their days of Finals are done.

    Our SG position is better and deeper than theirs, even if Manu doesn't come back to where he was even two seasons ago.

    Us: Green, Manu, Beli

    OKC: Lamb, Thabo, Andre Roberson

    I'm also loving all of the Manu hate. What you people are saying about him is EXACTLY what people were saying about Duncan 12 months ago.

    Ginobili is no Duncan.

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    Ginobili is no Duncan.
    at this point in his career, he's not even pete meyers

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    at this point in his career, he's not even pete meyers
    Hi-yoooooooo! You are correct, sir!

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    We were beating OKC, even with a healthy Westbrook. Unless they somehow get Harden back, their days of Finals are done.

    Our SG position is better and deeper than theirs, even if Manu doesn't come back to where he was even two seasons ago.

    Us: Green, Manu, Beli

    OKC: Lamb, Thabo, Andre Roberson

    I'm also loving all of the Manu hate. What you people are saying about him is EXACTLY what people were saying about Duncan 12 months ago.
    I think we would have beaten OKC last year anyway too, but it isn't like it was going to be easy. That team is not "done", they're just not as good without Harden. I have no idea why you're no-selling the league like everyone else is a piece of and the Spurs are god's gift. Our team is good and will contend; but it isn't a guaranteed Finals team.

    "you people"? Yeah, spare me that bull . I was pretty much the only Spurfan who was still confident in the team after 2010 when everyone else was jumping ship. I even looked at this site back then and saw LOADS of bandwagoning clowns jumping off the bandwagon talking about they're done and how Duncan needs to retire and "Popa " needs to be replaced. Meanwhile I was predicting they'd finish top 2-3 on insidehoops while everyone else was writing them off as "barely making the playoffs, 7th seed at best".

    I also never said Duncan was done either at any point, I've always had confidence in him and liked what we've gotten. Don't try to attribute what other people have said to me when I haven't. Comparing Duncan and Ginobili is apples to oranges anyway. Duncan never seemed to totally lose it. Ginobili meanwhile is nothing like he was 2 years ago.

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    won't mean when he's going off in games and popovich decides to sit him down because he's playing too well but continues to leave ginobli on the floor turning the ball over and forcing bad shots. i don't care if' he's fighting bulls in spain. none of that means as long as popovich continues to make ty decisions during games
    If you're talking about game 6, allow me to suggest something. You're down by 3 and decide to put a lineup in that can defend the 3 point line. Does it always work? Clearly not, but that's how strategies play out. What are you going to do when you put a rebounding lineup in (with Duncan on the floor) instead and there is no rebound to get? You know, because you didn't put a lineup in to defend the 3 and the shot went in? Then Duncan is standing there on the court, just like you wanted all along, and the result is the same.

    We just got a terribly unfortunate turn of events, we defended the 3, they missed, but yeah, they got the rebound and tried again. Would you rather have everyone under the basket watching the best player on the planet take a wide open three instead? How does that make Coach Pop look any wiser?

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    If you're talking about game 6, allow me to suggest something. You're down by 3 and decide to put a lineup in that can defend the 3 point line. Does it always work? Clearly not, but that's how strategies play out. What are you going to do when you put a rebounding lineup in (with Duncan on the floor) instead and there is no rebound to get? You know, because you didn't put a lineup in to defend the 3 and the shot went in? Then Duncan is standing there on the court, just like you wanted all along, and the result is the same.

    We just got a terribly unfortunate turn of events, we defended the 3, they missed, but yeah, they got the rebound and tried again. Would you rather have everyone under the basket watching the best player on the planet take a wide open three instead? How does that make Coach Pop look any wiser?
    This is another very sensible realistic post. Thank you.

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    Oh I'm changing that as soon as the season starts.
    Thank you Budkin, a little too close to home!

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    Thank you Budkin, a little too close to home!
    +1 PAINFUL

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    Oh don't worry about it. Cd021 assures us that Manu's turnovers "didn't really hurt us".
    I honestly I do not think cd021 was trying to offend anyone. More like he was showing that there is always two sides to every issue and used stats to do it with. There is another poster on here who has shown that it wasn't really Manus' fault so much as it was the Heats #1 ranked team trapping defense that rose up at the end, coupled with a few other factors.
    I'll try to find it and edit it in here if I can.

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    I honestly I do not think cd021 was trying to offend anyone. More like he was showing that there is always two sides to every issue and used stats to do it with. There is another poster on here who has shown that it wasn't really Manus' fault so much as it was the Heats #1 ranked team trapping defense that rose up at the end, coupled with a few other factors.
    I'll try to find it and edit it in here if I can.
    I am not offended by him. I just think he has lost his friggin' mind to say that.

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    No offense meant, but that is what you get for thinking!
    You might try something you're better equipped for.
    Like maybe humor.
    No offense meant.

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    What do they know? They still think Dwight leaving is the worst thing to happen since Colorado in 04'. Let me know when the Miami herald picks SA to win it all in 2014.

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    If you're talking about game 6, allow me to suggest something. You're down by 3 and decide to put a lineup in that can defend the 3 point line. Does it always work? Clearly not, but that's how strategies play out. What are you going to do when you put a rebounding lineup in (with Duncan on the floor) instead and there is no rebound to get? You know, because you didn't put a lineup in to defend the 3 and the shot went in? Then Duncan is standing there on the court, just like you wanted all along, and the result is the same.

    We just got a terribly unfortunate turn of events, we defended the 3, they missed, but yeah, they got the rebound and tried again. Would you rather have everyone under the basket watching the best player on the planet take a wide open three instead? How does that make Coach Pop look any wiser?
    i wasn't even talking about 1 play, i'm talking about the WHOLE 4th quarter!! you're resting players in the 4th quarter of a closeout finals game? who does that? as for defending the 3, u put all of your players on the perimeter. noone is to be in the paint but 1 person if u chose that option. if a player drives to the basket, fuk it, let him score. u put 4 guys on the perimiter and AT NO POINT LEAVE A GUY LIKE RAY ALLEN FOR ANYTHING. that's how u defend a 3. miami has no timeouts. if they hit the layup, we get the ball, they foul. even if we miss 1, they got to drive the court and hit a shot. simple bball really. if u know a team needs a 3, u make them drive, u don't pack the paint. defend the 3 point line, guard the best 3 point shooters even if they don't have the ball. look at the end of the mercury/sparks game when the sparks were down 1 and they defended parker on the inbound forcing her to throw up an off balanced shot as soon as she touched the ball. that's how u defend at the end of games. if i were duncan i would have retired after that finals game. either retired or asked for a trade to anywhere. popovich just makes the dumbest mistakes and he's been doing it for years. this year was just full of them. one of the biggest mistakes he made was speeding the game up not keeping duncan as the first option and trying to beat teams with offense instead of defense. getting rid of jackson and signing tmac(not to even play him). benching blair. game 6 is nothing compared to what he's done over the past few years..

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    If they stay healthy they'll have the best record again. They've improved the bench with Ayers and Bellinelli. Joseph should be better along with continued improvements of Leonard.

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    Not sure if they'll end up with the best RS record in the west but they will probably need it for the playoffs. The west is too deep this year and teams that were in the playoffs last year (Clippers, Rockets, Warriors) all got major/semi-major upgrades. I feel like Memphis made a solid move too but I can't remember for who. The Nuggets got worse, but Westbrook will be back and OKC has some decent young talent on the bench. The Pelicans are also another sleeper, they won't contend for a high seed but they could sneak in. Add in the T-Wolves who could make noise and the Mavs who are an unknown, and the west is going to be a dogfight this year. Even the east improved dramatically with Indiana getting Scola, Brooklyn getting Garnett/Pierce/Terry/Kirilenko, Rose returning, and Miami getting deeper with Oden and Beasley (who, if they live up to even 25%-50% of their potential could make an already stacked team almost unbeatable). The Spurs can definitely win it all and I feel they will be slightly improved next season but the success of 2014, as always, hinges on the health and continuing NBA First-Team play of Tim Duncan. TP can't regress either, and Kawhi needs to take the next step.

    Damn I can't wait for the season to start. Less than a month

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    Unless the Pacers or Nets somehow make it to the Finals, which is highly unlikely, Spurs ain't winning sheeit.

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