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I have a feeling Baynes will get some chances this year and develop into an 8-9th guy, and then...
Everyone is quick to forget how extremely difficult it was to get to the Finals last season with the way it ended. Shutting down Gasol/Randolph, looking back on it now, is absolutely ing awesome to think about. Very proud of our team for the work they put in last season no matter how it ended. Can't wait, a little less than two months now..
I have a feeling Baynes will get some chances this year and develop into an 8-9th guy, and then...
If Baynes was traded in February, who'd be a player that would put us over the top?.......
Who can say at this point? That's a question that can only be answered as the season progresses, depending on team need and who is available.
I think if Bayne's pans out and can be a solid contributor off the bench, I wouldn't trade him.
Aron Baynes is monster big and can play defense. Has quick feet. Is worth keeping around for the money we have him on.
Does anyone see him as an integral post Timmy/Manu piece of a Tony/Kawhi led team?
I think baynes is worth keeping, he's got some real serious size and can work on his other stuff.
It's not like we'd replace him with a quality big anyway.
No. He's pretty much a stiff.
He's big/immobile in a league that's clearly going away from big/immobile.
Cannot agree with this. I have seen him get back to the rim from the high post on dribble penetration. I have also seen him acquit himself well when switching on a pnr. He isn't Boris Diaw but he has good quickness for that size.
Less than 5% chance, mostly predicated upon someone getting majorly injured. I don't see how or why he would supplant Splitter or Diaw, and certainly not Tim Duncan.
I'm assuming you mean for rest of season, not just for 1-5 games for someone to rest up from a minor injury or garbage minutes. There's pretty much no chance imo that he will crack the rotation because of greater impact than the top 3 bigs we have already.
Baynes just has to be the 4th big to get 10 mins or so a night. Pop is going to baby those three you mentioned as he normally does with his vets. Now he may just go full on small ball but if he thinks Baynes has a shot then early in the season he will get one. We will know this particular answer fairly early I think.
when Bonner breaks his legs
How quick does a 6'11 260 guy have to be?
Quick enough to defend the rim coming from the perimeter, hedge and recover on pnr and make solid rotations in general.
I think exstatic was trying to say that he is slow to react. I noticed it on defense during the limited amount of summer league that I watched, he'd react slowly and end up fouling his man after getting beat defensively. It's true that he does move quite well overall for a guy his size, but it just seems that he reacts too slow on the defensive end. If he can't improve on that, then you can't have him in the rotation.
If the Spurs thought Baynes had the tools and talent to be in the rotation, they wouldn't have signed Pendergraph-Ayers.
Ayers can't play the 5 and he replaces Blair's roster spot. I don't see how you can construe that into a diss on Baynes.
I think Baynes is mainly here for an enforcer type of role and to play against teams with big centers. When he first came to the Spurs he kept mentioning Reggie Evans, and that he sees himself as a Reggie Evans type of player who will bang and bring toughness on the court. I don't think he is a regular all purpose rotation player.
He has great size, solid athletecism. He looked fine in limited time last year. He's worth a spot on the active roster and should be able to fight for rotation minutes. Not sure if he's ever going to be a legit offensive option, but he should be able to find ways to score. Look at Tiago, who isn't exactly a go-to post player, yet he manages to score with efficiency and volume.
He is a BIG screen
That's garbage minutes though.
There are 48 minutes per big position to be had, that's 96 total. Last year Duncan got 30, Splitter about 25, Diaw 23. 78 total, leaving just 18 minutes of which Leonard gets some during "small lineups", and Bonner will be getting time too as he always does (13 1/2 last year). That leaves Baynes with barely any besides garbage time.
Even Bonner's minutes are borderline garbage minutes tbh. He was 12th on the team in MPG while Baynes was dead last. I don't think Baynes is going to get significant time unless someone gets hurt. His role is the role Splitter and Duncan fill (and they do it better), so there really isn't much chance imo he'll get minutes over anyone without injuries taking place. He's kind of just a redundancy/insurance policy.
Or unless he's thrown into the fire one night and has a big outing. This of course assuming he has stepped up his game from last season which is a big "if".
Baynes chance of hitting anything past the elbow is infinitely better than Splitter and because of Duncan's ty mechanics, he is always going to be limited to a consistent outside shot from a few spots on the floor. Duncan really shouldn't be in this conversation as he is one of the best rebounders, low post scores and post defenders in NBA history.
He can bang down low and not get ragdolled as Splitter and Diaw do. Splitter worked on his core strength and has gotten better but we all saw him get overpowered against other team's 5s. He is best at the 4. Baynes is still raw but with the skyhook coming from either hand from either side of the court as well as a fadeaway jumper he has a more dynamic post game.
What he doesn't have is Splitters bball IQ in pnr spacing on offense of defense. Splitter is remarkable in that regard. Baynes looked slow to react last offseason in fairness though he was a midseason acquisition. What get me is how he has that openmouth stare especially when he is winded. Looking like a mouthbreather is looking like a mouthbreater. Maybe he is dumb or slowwitted.
I know it seems outlandish but maybe Baynes gets those minutes over Bonner. It's a long season and Popovich tinkers early. Baynes will get a shot if he is worth a damn most likely and he is one of the better big man prospects we have had in recent history. His ceiling is much higher than Blair for example. Will be interesting to see.
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