Maggette or Young, which is the better fit?

[xmas1997]

Maggette has Tonys' influence, while Young has Boylens'.
Of course, this is just conjecture on my part.

[xmas1997]

You've got to figure at 34 Maggette is very close to retiring now. He even talks about it in the interview.
I doubt he will be attacking the basket like he used to do and I think that is what most of us expect from him.
He claims he is in the mentoring phase of his game now.

[SpurCharger]

Neither.... Both of them are one dimensional Players

[exstatic]

We do need Maggette to defend. We don't need Young to do anything other defend and hit the occasional jumper. Young's the better fit.

[xmas1997]

We do need Maggette to defend. We don't need Young to do anything other defend and hit the occasional jumper. Young's the better fit.

Allow me to play devils advocate for a moment.
Hypothetically speaking, suppose Maggette can't play defense.
And also suppose Young can't hit the occasional jumper.
Then what?

[ace3g]

Allow me to play devils advocate for a moment.
Hypothetically speaking, suppose Maggette can't play defense.
And also suppose Young can't hit the occasional jumper.
Then what?

Something also to watch for during preseason games when the compe ion really heats up is which player is doing better on the boards.

[xmas1997]

Something also to watch for during preseason games when the compe ion really heats up is which player is doing better on the boards.

I didn't think about that. This will be an interesting training camp, and all for the 15th roster spot!
Who would have thought that spot would be so significant?

I still hope Nunnally is invited. If he is, I predict he'll be the dark horse.

[ace3g]

I didn't think about that. This will be an interesting training camp, and all for the 15th roster spot!
Who would have thought that spot would be so significant?

I still hope Nunnally is invited. If he is, I predict he'll be the dark horse.

Again someone else mentioned, yes the player added would bring the roster up to 15, but doesn't mean said player would be an end of the bench player (especially when it is for a the back up SF spot).

[Bruno]

The ability to play PF will also be an important part of the equation. Spurs have little mobility at PF/C so I expect them to play their fair share of small ball. Aside of a Kawhi injury, it will be in these situations that Maggette/Young will be the most useful.

Maggette would have an edge in that area since he played a small ball PF when he was with Warriors few years ago. If Maggette still has something left in the tank, which I sadly don't believe, he would really be able to help a lot Spurs.

[xmas1997]

The ability to play PF will also be an important part of the equation. Spurs have little mobility at PF/C so I expect them to play their fair share of small ball. Aside of a Kawhi injury, it will be in these situations that Maggette/Young will be the most useful.

Maggette would have an edge in that area since he played a small ball PF when he was with Warriors few years ago. If Maggette still has something left in the tank, which I sadly don't believe, he would really be able to help a lot Spurs.

This plausible too. I, too, have very little confidence that Maggette has anything left to offer other than mentoring, and that area is pretty much covered by other Spurs.
However, I have very little confidence in Young too, especially with regard to playing small ball PF.

[exstatic]

Allow me to play devils advocate for a moment.
Hypothetically speaking, suppose Maggette can't play defense.
And also suppose Young can't hit the occasional jumper.
Then what?

Multiple choice with only one roster spot left

a
b
Neither a or b

[lefty]

I would say a Young Maggette

[xmas1997]

I would say a Young Maggette

[SpursDynasty21]

I wonder which player has the best chance of making the roster.

[ace3g]

[look_at_g_shred]

http://youtu.be/alUOiRSDTyQ

Athletic much?

[TD 21]

This is interesting. On a healthy team the backup small-forward doesn't stand to get many minutes. But what happens when Leonard is out? Either Pop starts Belinelli and moves Green over (similar to what happened with Neal last season) or he promotes the third-string directly into the starting lineup and keeps his rotation intact (which he usually does). If the former happens, then Young is a better choice, since he's the better defender and the team could better handle large small-forwards with him rather than relying on Ginobili or Belinelli to spell Green. If it's the latter, then it might be important to have an offensive player next to Green, since both Danny and Splitter are currently lesser cogs in the starting offense. So Maggette would seem to make sense.

Boiled down, Young's probably the better player for a fringe-rotation spot, but Maggette is probably better as a spot-starter. Whatever role Pop wants his 15th man to play is probably decide who gets the last spot.

It would require Leonard AND Green being injured for Young or Maggette to spot start. If just one of Leonard or Green is, Belinelli will start. This is not about the unlikely scenario of both being injured, nor about finding another small ball PF (like it or not, Diaw is the other small ball PF), because if that were the case, they could have signed J. Johnson, McGuire, etc.

This is about finding another defender capable of doing a respectable job on James/Durant, while not destroying their spacing in the process. Young will do the latter, but maybe they think Engelland can help fix that somewhat (they don't need much; they got away with Jackson, as a rotation player, shooting 27-28% from 3). Plus, I think they like the fact that he's not a credible enough name to where it would be awkward or he'd pout if he's regularly inactive, which he more than likely will be.

[TheGreatYacht]

On a serious note, why can't we just get rid of Nando de Colo and keep Maggette and Young? Nando looked like a ing scrub (reminded me a lot of Manu in Game 6) during the summer league. I didn't get to watch Nando on the French NT though.

[McGusto55]

Hahaha, you can't come up with this by yourself. Yeah, because Sam Young and Corey Maggette are championship calibre players, who helped their teams to win multiple les. I bet you're butthurt because Manu banged you so much the last time both met and he hasn't called you yet

LMFAO...

[admiralsnackbar]

On a serious note, why can't we just get rid of Nando de Colo and keep Maggette and Young? Nando looked like a ing scrub (reminded me a lot of Manu in Game 6) during the summer league. I didn't get to watch Nando on the French NT though.

You're almost certain to get your wish, but it's at least a little humorous that you are excited by the prospect of hiring a has-been name-brand offensive 3 (CM) and an offensively challenged defensive 3 (SY) while you redundantly rail against a far more productive player like Manu, whose price/production ratio remains re edly high. He's not ever going to be Supermanu again, but he's already making less than Doug Christie did after his game had completely fallen off a cliff. This isn't blind homerism speaking, mind you -- this is just stats.

[Darius McCrary]

Didn't timvp say that Sam Young is an insanely horrible defender, and sucks at pretty much everything?

[TheGreatYacht]

You're almost certain to get your wish, but it's at least a little humorous that you are excited by the prospect of hiring a has-been name-brand offensive 3 (CM) and an offensively challenged defensive 3 (SY) while you redundantly rail against a far more productive player like Manu, whose price/production ratio remains re edly high. He's not ever going to be Supermanu again, but he's already making less than Doug Christie did after his game had completely fallen off a cliff. This isn't blind homerism speaking, mind you -- this is just stats.

Good take. How much does Manu have left though? Hopefully enough to prove he is worthy of his $14.5M contract which I sincerely doubt.

[Johnny RIngo]

Good take. How much does Manu have left though? Hopefully enough to prove he is worthy of his $14.5M contract which I sincerely doubt.

I remember someone posted an analysis that used advanced stats to determine how much a player was actually worth. Manu's actual worth last season was $4 million...despite being the highest paid player on the team at $14 mil.

[Obstructed_View]

Why do people waste so much time debating about something we're going to see in a few weeks? We'll know who's the better fit and the better playoff as camp goes on.

[Obstructed_View]

Didn't timvp say that Sam Young is an insanely horrible defender, and sucks at pretty much everything?

Game grades are going to be so much fun if Young makes the team.