Why we shouldnt foul Up 3 with >10secs to go.

[anakha]

I don't want to return to the bonner-tolliver argument, you can search it yourself if you want to remember, all I will say now is that you keep being superficial thinking numbers in basketball is the all story(what about what the eyes see and personal judgment and interpretation?)

Translation: you made a bull claim the numbers never backed up, now you're resorting to the "eye test" because you have nothing to stand on.

and also you keep being a liar take things out of context, that argument was about amnesty your beloved bonner, that spurs could be better bringing tolliver instead after amnesty your beloved bonner cause it also will be good financial wise, will have gave the team better cap situation to work with

Now you're ing making up.

You never mentioned finances or cap situation in your original argument. You simply said Tolliver is better. Now you're backpedaling because you exposed yourself as knowing absolutely ing nothing and spewing horse .

and also for the reason that tolliver could not be worst than your beloved bonner who is nothing come playoff time, can't play and worthless...

And you're still assuming I'm a Bonner fan. I'd rather play Pendergraph and Baynes over him.

But anybody trying to argue Tolliver was better is full of .

Just like your argument in this thread.

Just like your "woe is me, I'm really gonna kill myself, somebody pay me some ing attention" routine.

[xmas1997]

Kobyz by far is the worst crybaby troll on this site, followed by TGY right behind him with his and sucker and redundant BS! And then come their whole crew right behind them to make them feel brave and credible. But it is just a false sense of bravado and security.
As "ecstatic" said, they are "denizens from downstairs" up here to stir up trouble and make as much mayhem as they can get away with before the mods put them back downstairs.
It's like the inmates are loose and running the asylum right now until the season starts.

[hyhy]

If you really think that you are right here about not to foul, then I really don't want to discuss with a re ate human being without common sense...

den gtfo

[kobyz]

Translation: you made a bull claim the numbers never backed up, now you're resorting to the "eye test" because you have nothing to stand on.

Never claim such thing and not resorting to, the eye test was my main resource at first place...

Now you're ing making up.

You never mentioned finances or cap situation in your original argument. You simply said Tolliver is better. Now you're backpedaling because you exposed yourself as knowing absolutely ing nothing and spewing horse .

Finance situation aspect should have been obvious part of the argument, not even needed to mention it as the subject of the argument was tolliver for the spurs instead amnesty's bonner...

And you're still assuming I'm a Bonner fan. I'd rather play Pendergraph and Baynes over him.

But anybody trying to argue Tolliver was better is full of .

Just like your argument in this thread.

Just like your "woe is me, I'm really gonna kill myself, somebody pay me some ing attention" routine.

I'm not assuming your love to bonner, just trying to annoy you a little, return a favor in your own childish game... Again you trying to falsify what i said, i didn't said tolliver was better, i said tolliver will be better instead of bonner for the future... But now I see you also prefer tolliver over bonner as now you tell you prefer every scrub over matty...

[anakha]

Never claim such thing and not resorting to, the eye test was my main resource at first place...

So you admit that you made a claim without proof to back up your claim. Good, at least you're admitting you're a dumb .

Quick tip: next time you want to argue a point or present an opinion, have some hard evidence to back it up. You'll look like you actually have a brain when you do that.

Finance situation aspect should have been obvious part of the argument, not even needed to mention it as the subject of the argument was tolliver for the spurs instead amnesty's bonner...

Claiming something was 'obvious' after the fact while not bringing it up in the first place is a common tactic when the argument has failed and the person is backpedaling, desperately trying to salvage anything left of his pride.

I'm not assuming your love to bonner, just trying to annoy you a little, return a favor in your own childish game... Again you trying to falsify what i said, i didn't said tolliver was better, i said tolliver will be better instead of bonner for the future... But now I see you also prefer tolliver over bonner as now you tell you prefer every scrub over matty...

yeah i agree, younger and better overall player at this point...

You can't even keep your lies straight anymore.

Go back to your suicide routine, attention .

[kobyz]

Go back to your suicide routine, attention .

go back to have matt bonner's penis in your mouth, you are a joke, an ugly joke!!

[anakha]

go back to have matt bonner's penis in your mouth, you are a joke, an ugly joke!!

LOL got caught making a bull claim
LOL caught contradicting himself
LOL making an 'obvious' argument after the fact
LOL still hasn't killed himself

[xmas1997]

LOL got caught making a bull claim
LOL caught contradicting himself
LOL making an 'obvious' argument after the fact
LOL still hasn't killed himself

Anakha, shame shame, you're having too much fun!

[kobyz]

LOL got caught making a bull claim
LOL caught contradicting himself
LOL making an 'obvious' argument after the fact
LOL still hasn't killed himself

LOL Liar!!

[anakha]

LOL Liar!!

LOL accusing someone of lying when he can't even keep track of the bull he posts
LOL "Tolliver is the better overall player" followed by "i didn't said tolliver was better"
LOL can't even keep track of his own lies
LOL has given up on his argument because he knows he was made to look like an idiot
LOL still hasn't killed himself
LOL still an attention

[look_at_g_shred]

How about ..why we shouldn't still be ing about Game 6 3 months later. Yeah..that sounds better.

[Sean Cagney]

How about ..why we shouldn't still be ing about Game 6 3 months later. Yeah..that sounds better.

Yeah, it is pretty much not going to do any good now since we lost and it's over with for some time now.

[kobyz]

LOL accusing someone of lying when he can't even keep track of the bull he posts
LOL "Tolliver is the better overall player" followed by "i didn't said tolliver was better"
LOL can't even keep track of his own lies
LOL has given up on his argument because he knows he was made to look like an idiot
LOL still hasn't killed himself
LOL still an attention

You keep being a liar, I'm not an attention and not nothing, just being true and telling my honest feeling, truly after the last dissepointment and the way we lost the le my world ended, thanks to god(or Pop and Manu-depend on how you want to look at it) I'm now living in the most cruel life there is for human being, my soul so torn, hurt and in misery... after you will also find yourself one step from being in heaven, had the most amazing bliss already in your hands and than it all taken away from you in an instant, than after that kind of experience you could tell me how you feel and if I'm an attention ...

[Johnny RIngo]

"Internationally, teams foul more, a strategy Manu Ginobili, who played in Argentina, occasionally broaches with Spurs Coach Gregg Popovich.
“Manu tells me about it all the time,” Popovich said. “I say: ‘Manu, I don’t have that type of guts. I’m not going to do it.’ ”"

Basically, pop chose the conservative way out, whereby its either win or overtime, rather than playing with the possibilities of losing.

All the all-time great coaches play to win. Pop plays not to lose. This is probably why he retreats into his s anytiome he has to face a Phil Jackson team. , Avery Johnson destroyed Pop...without homecourt...and without the best player in the series. Not surprising at all that Spo would beat Pop with Lebron and Wade.

[TheGreatYacht]

All the all-time great coaches play to win. Pop plays not to lose. This is probably why he retreats into his s anytiome he has to face a Phil Jackson team. , Avery Johnson destroyed Pop...without homecourt...and without the best player in the series. Not surprising at all that Spo would beat Pop with Lebron and Wade.

Bingo! And that is why Pop has suffered some of the most heartbreaking losses in the playoffs and choked the most championships (gotta do a little research on this one) in NBA history. Pop puts himself in a position to give away a win when the game is on the line.

[xmas1997]

Bingo! And that is why Pop has suffered some of the most heartbreaking losses in the playoffs and choked the most championships (gotta do a little research on this one) in NBA history. Pop puts himself in a position to give away a win when the game is on the line.

Ok, wise guy, name one single available coach who never makes any mistakes and could do a better job than Pop!
Right.
No answer. The silence is deafening.

[anakha]

You keep being a liar, I'm not an attention and not nothing, just being true and telling my honest feeling, truly after the last dissepointment and the way we lost the le my world ended, thanks to god(or Pop and Manu-depend on how you want to look at it) I'm now living in the most cruel life there is for human being, my soul so torn, hurt and in misery... after you will also find yourself one step from being in heaven, had the most amazing bliss already in your hands and than it all taken away from you in an instant, than after that kind of experience you could tell me how you feel and if I'm an attention ...

LOL still attention whoring
LOL still hasn't killed himself
LOL has completely abandoned his earlier arguments
LOL had nothing else to say except the same bull
LOL is an emo parrot
LOL Polly wanna cracker and a knife to slit his wrists

[kobyz]

LOL still attention whoring
LOL still hasn't killed himself
LOL has completely abandoned his earlier arguments
LOL had nothing else to say except the same bull
LOL is an emo parrot
LOL Polly wanna cracker and a knife to slit his wrists

Recommend you to go to psychological therapist, it looks like you had an OCD or something... Good Bye asshole!!

[anakha]

*squaaaawk* I'm so depressed the Spurs lost

*squaaaawk* Life isn't worth living

*squaaaawk* Won't someone pay attention to me?

*whistle*

Bad parrot.

Learn some new lines.

[Sean Cagney]

Recommend you to go to psychological therapist, it looks like you had an OCD or something... Good Bye asshole!!

Ironic you would say this to anyone else. You have said the same whiney ass hit for months on end.

[hyhy]

bumps~ NBA Dleague select just fouled sixers in summer league up 3. Sixers scored the first and rebounded the second and the game went overtime.

[kobyz]

bumps~ NBA Dleague select just fouled sixers in summer league up 3. Sixers scored the first and rebounded the second and the game went overtime.

The odds are still in favor of fouling in that situation instead of not fouling, especially if you in scenario when you going to lose 5 point lead with 28 sec left against the Lebron Heat and you know that overtime is like a loss...

[SupremeGuy]

Such a hard situation, if it works you're a hero, if it doesn't you're an asshole. Personally, I'd do it.

[Kineto]

The odds are still in favor of fouling in that situation instead of not fouling, especially if you in scenario when you going to lose 5 point lead with 28 sec left against the Lebron Heat and you know that overtime is like a loss...

From the différent studies i read, the odds are pretty similar. Fooling give a little more chance to win or lose in regulation, and less chance to go overtime.

fooling also create extra possession, so you have to shoot more free-throw too. I'm not sure it was in spurs best interest (2 miss in the last 4 attempt, pressure of the crowd, etc...)

[kobyz]

From the différent studies i read, the odds are pretty similar. Fooling give a little more chance to win or lose in regulation, and less chance to go overtime.

fooling also create extra possession, so you have to shoot more free-throw too. I'm not sure it was in spurs best interest (2 miss in the last 4 attempt, pressure of the crowd, etc...)

But how much times we witness teams in the NBA not fouling and than been force overtime with a three(in Europe basketball they always foul in that situation and at least 90% get the win)... About the Spurs case, keep in mind that the Heat had no timeout left, couldn't advance the ball, i also would like to see if LeBron stand in the pressure of two free throws in that situation, much more than to let them oportonity for a three, even desperate one...